Comics Iceman vs Human Torch

[Oakley]

Johnny Storm has confidence, and the current Iceman is a wuss.

 

[Midnight Ice]

Iceman could freeze the Torch's brian with a thought.

 

[Cyclops]

And then the Torch would get really mad and melt frosty with a vengeance for freezing his buddy Brian.

 

[undisclosed]

iceman because i did eeny meeny miny mo, and iceman got it.

 

[Weapon]

i like the way people are saying johhny can get as hot as the sun,

yeah, like bobby is every going to let that happen....



in a no hold's barred match, johnny is gone before he knows what's going on.

Robert practically can control remove kinetic energy of molecules, no kinetic energy, no friction, no friction, no heat, no heat no fight no contest....


besides, i'v posted this opinion in another thread already and i'm sure many others similar to this have been done in the past.

Officially one of the biggest geeks Ive ever seen

 

[Phoenix342]

Officially one of the biggest geeks Ive ever seen

Whats the matter jealous you didnt think of it first?
just cause your lil brain is to small to think of anything besides
"fire melts ice" dont being dissing other ppl who think of cool stuff loser

 

[Chamber_UK]

Torch is hot as Sun, Iceman can't beat him.

Yes but Bobby can go absolute kelvin, nothing colder then that.

However my response would be a tie, when u look at the physics of their power the are polar oppossities that concel each other out, resulting in a stalemate.

 

[Weapon]

Whats the matter jealous you didnt think of it first?
just cause your lil brain is to small to think of anything besides
"fire melts ice" dont being dissing other ppl who think of cool stuff loser

LMAO

only cool if your a geek too. You're officially the biggest ass kiss Ive seen on these boards

 

[Phoenix342]

Yeah actually i do consider myself a geek so i really dont care if you call me that...and as far ass being a kiss ass you got it wrong i just cant stand when losers jump on the internet and diss ppl because it makes them feel somehow better since in real life they are outcast and got beat up when they were little...and if you think this board is so full of geeks then why do come here?

 

[Weapon]

Yeah actually i do consider myself a geek so i really dont care if you call me that...and as far ass being a kiss ass you got it wrong i just cant stand when losers jump on the internet and diss ppl because it makes them feel somehow better since in real life they are outcast and got beat up when they were little...and if you think this board is so full of geeks then why do come here?

I didnt say it was full of geeks - ass kiss. N It dont make me fell better telling the truth about people on here, I dont need to feel better about anything - so nice comeback bum. Anyway even mentioning the topic it's apparent you were shoved in lockers in school and had your ass kicked, no one else. Stop being a geek and meet some real people you outcast. Snooguns

-CLDE-

 

[Nightwolf]

Weapon, I dont know what your problem is but coming on a comic book forum and calling people geeks is a bit redundant isnt it. What have you actually contributed to this thread except for calling people names?

 

[Phoenix342]

Stop being a geek and meet some real people you outcast. Snooguns

-CLDE-

LOL I already told you i consider myself a geek so call me that all you want but as far as you telling me to meet real ppl arnt you doing exactly opposite of what your telling me to do, You tell me to meet real ppl yet you too are also on the board, hmm. and also im on here to post not make my self seem like a toughguy calling people "geeks" OH NO!!!! so why dont u cut the tough guy bullcrap and chill out and maybe actually contribute to the board not just run around lookin like some 10 year old wanna be tough guy and if thats to hard for you why dont you go suck a bottle of warm milk fall alseep and come back in about 9-10 years when your over the middle school though guy act

 

[Phoenix342]

oh sorry and one more thing sorry about the post getting off topic guys but i agree with what someone said earlier too about their powers canceling each other out but if that didnt happen, Iceman all the way!

 

[La The Darkman]

Correct me if I'm wrong but if Johhny Storm goes "supernova" isn't he unable to use his powers for HOURS afterwards?

 

[Weapon]

LOL I already told you i consider myself a geek so call me that all you want but as far as you telling me to meet real ppl arnt you doing exactly opposite of what your telling me to do, You tell me to meet real ppl yet you too are also on the board, hmm. and also im on here to post not make my self seem like a toughguy calling people "geeks" OH NO!!!! so why dont u cut the tough guy bullcrap and chill out and maybe actually contribute to the board not just run around lookin like some 10 year old wanna be tough guy and if thats to hard for you why dont you go suck a bottle of warm milk fall alseep and come back in about 9-10 years when your over the middle school though guy act

So who's name calling? Anyone who uses comments like you is bitter about how their life has turned out, and I actually do get out and have a real life so its ok for me to ocasionally post on message boards unlike you bum. And what you talkin bout suckin for ????? A subconcious wish of yours???
Im not trying to be tough btw - Its just so laughable when people try to work out battles for fake comic book charecters with actual science and logic - its a ****in comic - dont have an orgasm.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

Officially one of the biggest geeks Ive ever seen

i don't see what relevance this has to the conversation at hand...




if you have any relevant input, please feel free to express it instead of taking the conversation off at a tangent.

danke

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

alright, for those of you who are voting for johnny, please tell me how the converstion of a state of matter (i.e. solid to liquid or even gas form) constitutes a victory...

melting iceman doesn't mean he's dead, or even defeated, it just means he is no longer in solid form.

What can Johnny do to a vapour, you can't hit it, or constrain it, or knock it unconcious.

i don't get why the whole, 'fire may melt ice' argument is feasible when we know robert has full molecular control of his self.

could someone take me through a johnny storm victory in a realistic situation of both parties going full out at their peaks.

 

[Weapon]

Super hot sun destroys snow man ....... snow man floats away into the atmosphere

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

how does heat destroy ice? It just changes it into another form of state, one bobby has full control over.

Hence bobby now is in a less vulnerable state to attack.

how does this constitute a victory?


consider the vice versa, just because johnny isn't able to flame on doesn't automatically make bobby the victor, it's what bobby can do in johnny's vulnerable state that determines this. Mr storm has no such trump card in his artillary.


So again, i reiterate, how does Johnny beat Bobby?

 

[Weapon]

if someone cant fight back they're out

 

[Phoenix342]

yeah but all bobby has to do is reform his molecules back to solid and he's back in the fight and eventually johnny would wear out or iceman would figure out a way to defeat him

 

[Weapon]

So youre arguement is 'he'd figure out a way to beat him' ?? damm fanboy argument

 

[Phoenix342]

Yeah well at least im not just saying "fire melts ice", think out side of the box man there are alot of different ways that bobby could beat torch he could turn into vapor, go inside the torch and freeze his lngs or something, its just stupid keep thinking "fire melts" ice is the most obvious solution when theres alot of other factors to be considered

 

[Weapon]

Dam Im finished here I aint got any time to debate the outcome of fictional charecter battlse anymore- real lifes a calling

 

[cookiva]

Yeah well at least im not just saying "fire melts ice", think out side of the box man there are alot of different ways that bobby could beat torch he could turn into vapor, go inside the torch and freeze his lngs or something, its just stupid keep thinking "fire melts" ice is the most obvious solution when theres alot of other factors to be considered

Exactamundo!