Dark Phoenix "I'd rather be in Guardians" The Jennifer Lawrence/Mystique Thread

[KidxMikexMcfly]

And she still remained a self serving snake. That is the comic book character. The movie version is very removed from that.

Look at it this way. There have been three X-Men cartoons (not counting the anime). They were all different versions of X-Men. And yet in all of them Mystique was a villain.

Lol she was nicest in Wolverine and the X-Men

 

[CyclopsSummers]

They made Mystique good in new timeline because of JLaw. In comics shes sometimes vilain sometimes ally, she acts as her own interest

 

[GuestStar2004]

They made Mystique good in new timeline because of JLaw. In comics shes sometimes vilain sometimes ally, she acts as her own interest

I find that really odd logic since making someone good doesn't make them shine anymore than making them a reappearing villain or even an anti-hero.

Infact the anti-hero approach seems to be the stronger of the lot since the actors and audiences seem to like anti-heroes the most because they are unpredictable.

 

[SumT]

producers have their own issues and insecurities, and they are different than us, just simple fans. So yeah, they decided to keep her good once she become huge after Hunger games and her Oscar nomination. Lets not be naive.

Bryan and Vaughn probably had in mind to give her a great arc of becoming dark after that First Class end, but..... she became a star, and plans changed. Because plans always change depending of a lot of factors.

And Im pretty sure Kinberg was one of the people at Fox that agreed with this approach instead of turning her into the cold assassin of original trilogy, which they could have done after 2 sequels. So again, lets not be naive.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Thats not naivety or insecurity, thats just playing it safe... which is kinda silly since playing it safe won't make mystique shine anymore so.

If anything they ended up down playing the character could have been probably because they wanted to evolve the characters based on the relationship she had with Xavier that started in FC.

 

[psylockolussus]

They made Mystique good in new timeline because of JLaw. In comics shes sometimes vilain sometimes ally, she acts as her own interest

Even in today's comics, some of the X-Men can't still stand her. Same thing with Magneto.

 

[Orba]

Not really a surprise since pretty much her defining character trait in the comics is that she always ends up betraying everyone. The only person she has ever had any true loyalty to is Irene.

 

[psylockolussus]

And its crazy how drastic Mystique's portrayal in these movies.

 

[craigaat]

I had no awareness of Jennifer Lawrence before I saw her in X-Men: First Class. So I didn't have any bias against the actress at all.

I thought the portrayal in First Class was okay but it got worse and worse in subsequent movies. Singer tried to make her too much like the Romijn version in DoFP, her appearance and everything else changed suddenly. And then in X:A, it felt just like watching Jennifer Lawrence and she seemed so bored.

Mystique has on occasion teamed with the X-Men but what has been done in the films feels wrong, a mischaracterisation. It's been made worse by the fact Jennifer Lawrence is unable to carry off the role with any conviction.

My exact thoughts on the character. Cyclops should have been a much bigger part of the Retro Trilogy, but after Lawrence blew up as an actress the studio was never going to let her go.

 

[psylockolussus]

Fox is blinded by her stardom. Apocalypse couldn't even outgross X1 in North America.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

Mystique dies in this scene

 

[psylockolussus]

More human form I see.

 

[Crimson99]

Actually most of her action scenes are going to be in blue form.

 

[psylockolussus]

Great and yet she's still in human form for other scenes because why Xactly?

 

[Donner]

Mystique dies in this scene

So that's who the funeral is for? I mean, they already ruined the character and it doesn't seem like JLaw likes playing Mystique, so this may be her way of going out.

 

[Crimson99]

Great and yet she's still in human form for other scenes because why Xactly?

Human expression shows up better without the blue. Blue is good for the action scenes IMO. Plus, my bold prediction is this will be Jen's best performance when all is said and done.

 

[psylockolussus]

Are you really serous?

 

[Donner]

I think they'll kill her off early in the movie to spare the world from watching her "acting."

I don't get it. In other movies, she's fine. But these ones...blah.

 

[StarLord]

Rebecca Romijn managed just fine without having to show her real face every two minutes.

Granted, she wasn't as popular as Lawrence, but it's so terribly forced and convenient.

 

[SumT]

Fox is blinded by her stardom. Apocalypse couldn't even outgross X1 in North America.

Fox probably thinks that without Lawrence, Apocalypse would have only made $50m in USA.
She brings the money, man!

same with Fassbender. both Lawrence and Fass made XMA to reach $150m. We should be thankful.

 

[Mad Ones]

Mystique looks good in this movie. Seeing her hair in this movie makes me wish she looked like this since First Class. I liked the J-Law scenes in the trailer, even if it doesn't make sense to look like that anymore. Xavier is on the defensive, but Mystique seems more genuinely concerned for Jean.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Though her hair looked good in that one EW still, I think her hair still looks hella fake in motion.

 

[psylockolussus]

She looked bored.

 

[JoeyConQueso]

It continues feeling strange that Mystique is focused on so much in these movies. I didn't care much for her in First Class.She juist felt like an impressionable kid who hated being sheltered by Charles all of the time and decided to run off with the rebel for some reason. She really didn't do anything to affect the main action. Then they boost her role for DOFP, and gave her a pretty cool story. She changed a lot over the 10 years since First Class and became more of the fighter from the original trilogy but we get to see her life go in a different direction as she chooses not to become a cold blooded killer. I would have been perfectly fine with her not being in Apocalypse, since her arc in DOFP felt so complete, but instead they force her into a main character role again.simply because of her celebrity status. Apocalypse was such a poor follow up to DOFP in so many ways.Dark Phoenix could have been the time to correct everything and make one more awesome movie but it feels like they're just doubling down and making the mistakies into tropes.

It sucks that Cyclops will never be done justice as the leader of the team and they'll be shown as just having been under Mystique's leadership for the past decade.

 

[Erik Lensherr]