Ideas on how to PERMANANTLY bring in flight

[user123456789]

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think it's time they have him fly and spread it out over a season. It's one of the most important powers he has and something that really sets him apart from "normal" people and makes him more god like.

It would really be interesting to see how this Clark reacts to it. Besides they've teased it enough.

x2..

 

[Jack O Lantern]

My idea to bring in flight more is to have Lex and Lana travel to and from Metrpolis by Helicoprter at least once per show

 

[04nbod]

my idea- think a happy thought any happy thought- and a little bit of fairy dust. its the same as having wings you know!t:

 

[Lighthouse]

I know a lot of people want to see Welling in the suit, fly, and even move onto a Metropolis tv series where he's Superman, but I feel that it will totally destroy what makes Smallville good. I was watching some stuff on "The Nativity Story" and I realized it has the same quality that Smallville has. Yes, I know, I'm tired of the Christ comparisons too, but I mean this one in a different way. "The Nativity Story" like Smallville is about the time before the emmergence of an extraordinary figure who changes the world, but not the figure itself. The movie is not about Christ, but about the mythic idea of Christ. The movie is a build up towards this point. Same thing with Smallville. As good as a Superman as Welling might make, the mythic idea of Superman in our heads is so much bigger and better than any movie or TV show could make it, and Smallville plays off that. We know eventually this young man will become the greatest hero the world has ever known, and once it reaches that point the story is over. If it tried to go beyond that point, the mythic quality would be completely lost.

 

[lespaul59]

This is one of the things that kills me about Smallville, lets drag it out for six years. I hope they don't leave us with the cliffhangers like does Lois and Clark get together, will we see the traditional suit and things that deal more with Superman than Clark. I think they need to come up with some type of new suit because I just dont see this Superman wearing tights.

 

[Bnightwing]

he can fly! lol he did going to see branic remember??

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Well I have one...
Lex now has his mechanically advanced supersuite (just not super giant like in the comics)

Not so bad, but...what, is he just sitting there in the suit or something when Clark shows up?

"...hey...Clark...I was just...um...hanging out here. In my...you know, this nifty new mech-suit I built..."

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Yes, I know, I'm tired of the Christ comparisons too, but I mean this one in a different way.

How can you be tired of the Christ comparisons when it comes to anything Superman?

Seriously now, I'm not trying to push anything on you or anything like that, but they're so blatant and so infused with the character that it's kind of like take it or leave it, you know?

 

[The Kid]

What really turned me off Anakin skywalker in the pt was that lucas practically copy and pasted jesus' story and that was it, point blank... no greater depth to it, just took the bible and bam, virgin mary, jesus and jar jar all right there. I don't think that's the right way to do it. I'd have gone with a more subtle approach.

ah crap, I went off topic... well the best idea is to me to have it happen as something Clark has no choice but to attempt to do for some reason, maybe to save lana or lois. Really though, the answer about making the budget bigger is the best one.

 

[TwilightPro101]

I haven't got a particular way in mind, but I think he should be evolving with this particular ability. Maybe doing a lot more leaping tall buildings in a single bound instead of running everywhere.

 

[Lighthouse]

How can you be tired of the Christ comparisons when it comes to anything Superman?

Seriously now, I'm not trying to push anything on you or anything like that, but they're so blatant and so infused with the character that it's kind of like take it or leave it, you know?

I'm not arguing with the fact that its there. It clearly is, but I'm getting a little tired of them because lately its been very heavily emphasized, most especially in Superman Returns.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I'm not arguing with the fact that its there. It clearly is, but I'm getting a little tired of them because lately its been very heavily emphasized, most especially in Superman Returns.

Well, to be fair, it's been pretty prominent in most iterations of the mythos.

Again, not trying to push anything your way. There's just not a whole lot you can do to get around the parallels.

 

[The Kid]

Going off topic again but what the hell...

I can't see it that way. the equation isn't as simplistic as: Superman = Jesus

It's undeniable that at times in the books and in other literature I've read he's labeled a christ figure though most of the time he's just called an angel.

Someone I read at bluetights said he's more like moses.

There are so many things to take into account regarding his inception, it's insane and would take ages to go through and decipher. In the end it's kinda subjective unless he's forced into the christ role. One man's farmboy alien with powers is another man's Jesus christ figure...

I think there's room enough for it to be open to interpretation.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Going off topic again but what the hell...

I can't see it that way. the equation isn't as simplistic as: Superman = Jesus.

There are so many things to take into account regarding his inception, it's insane and would take ages to go through and decipher. In the end it's kinda subjective unless he's forced into the christ role. One man's farmboy alien with powers is another man's christ figure...

Well, I'm not saying that Superman is strictly a Christ figure. Of course not - decades of publication as well as numerous forays into television, radio, and film have all contributed numerous factors into the Superman we have today; some of those factors are Christic and some are not.

However, the parallels to Christ, or at least a sort of Messiah figure, are practically built-in to the character, at least as he is today - benevolent father sends his son from the heavens to protect and save humanity. Son does so in part through feats that no human could dream of. That's a bare-bones synopsis of course, and I could definitely get more in-depth, but at once that example applies to both the story of Kal-El and that of Jesus.

It's not that the Messiah parallels are the only ones, or even the most important ones. But they're still there and they're prominent. Even if you take out suggestive dialogue and symbolic imagery, the story itself is still pretty similar. At this point, it's something that's been so ingrained in the character that it's impossible to deny, Christian or not.

It's definitely not as simplistic as "Superman=Jesus," but it's still there and it is prominent.

 

[The Kid]

What I wonder is in what way they're prominent. Is it just the superficial sense of a powerful being being raised by normal folks? I'm not very knowlegable about these things, but I can think of mythological heros who've come from similar roots and are not to my knowledge viewed in prominent ways as christ figures. But I'm not sure.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

What I wonder is in what way they're prominent. Is it just the superficial sense of a powerful being being raised by normal folks? I'm not very knowlegable about these things, but I can think of mythological heros who've come from similar roots and are not to my knowledge viewed in prominent ways as christ figures. But I'm not sure.

It's hard to say. I could definitely look into it, but for some reason it's Superman who is related more to Christ or a Messiah figure than any other.

Perhaps it's the very idea of Superman - THE superhero, the one every other is measured by (especially in the DCU). In some ways, a God among men, and in others more human than any earthling (which is how Jesus is popularly depicted).

A lot of it probably DOES come from the superficial - a being decidedly alien to the human race (with the Superman story, a Kryptonian; with the Jesus story, the Son of God) is sent by his father (Jor-El; God the Father) from an otherworldly place (Krypton; Heaven) to save humanity.

Perhaps its the fact that Superman's creators were both Jewish, and perhaps it is possible that the two modeled the character after their idea of a Messiah (whether intentionally or not).

Who's to say? There are any number of reasons that Superman is compared to Jesus more than any other superhero.

 

[The Kid]

It's hard to say. I could definitely look into it, but for some reason it's Superman who is related more to Christ or a Messiah figure than any other.

Perhaps it's the very idea of Superman - THE superhero, the one every other is measured by (especially in the DCU). In some ways, a God among men, and in others more human than any earthling (which is how Jesus is popularly depicted).

A lot of it probably DOES come from the superficial - a being decidedly alien to the human race (with the Superman story, a Kryptonian; with the Jesus story, the Son of God) is sent by his father (Jor-El; God the Father) from an otherworldly place (Krypton; Heaven) to save humanity.

Perhaps its the fact that Superman's creators were both Jewish, and perhaps it is possible that the two modeled the character after their idea of a Messiah (whether intentionally or not).

Who's to say? There are any number of reasons that Superman is compared to Jesus more than any other superhero.

Well yeah, that's the most obvious reason. From what I understand about jesus is that he didn't get his coolest powers: the power to fly and immortality, until he was killed. You can see all this was paralleled pretty well in the first matrix movie, then things went crazy in the sequels, became all confusing and jada pinkett smith was in them acting like a robot.

Superman can possibly be viewed as a neo like savior but I think that's going overboard. There are undeniable similarities but to me anyway he's always been what the fleischer cartoon described him as because this was my first ever superman experience... he's the sole survivor of krypton. That's a big part of him. He'd be dead if his dad didn't send him away; He'd be an normal kryptonian citizen if his planet didn't explode. So I take these into account when he's being labeled a christ figure. I wonder if there was ever really a choice in sending him to earth whereas jesus was sent specifically to spread his message and then die, then well you know...

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Well yeah, that's the most obvious reason. From what I understand about jesus is that he didn't get his coolest powers: the power to fly and immortality, until he was killed. You can see all this was paralleled pretty well in the first matrix movie, then things went crazy in the sequels, became all confusing and jada pinkett smith was in them acting like a robot.

Superman can possibly be viewed as a neo like savior but I think that's going overboard. There are undeniable similarities but to me anyway he's always been what the fleischer cartoon described him as because this was my first ever superman experience... he's the sole survivor of krypton. That's a big part of him. He'd be dead if his dad didn't send him away; He'd be an normal kryptonian citizen if his planet didn't explode. So I take these into account when he's being labeled a christ figure. I wonder if there was ever really a choice in sending him to earth whereas jesus was sent specifically to spread his message and then die, then well you know...

You make a pretty good point, and I definitely see where you're coming from.

The great thing about a lot of these characters - especially Superman, who's become such an American icon, right up there with apple pie and baseball - is that there are a ton of ways to look at them, symbolically speaking.

In Superman's case, he is all at once a Christ/Messiah figure, the sole survivor of the planet Krypton, an undeniably American icon, a righteous defender of the poor and beaten down, the epitome of what a superhero should be, and so much more. The character is all of these things, and it's probably one of the things that has made the character last as long as he has.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Well I have one...
Chloe is being held hostage by a few of Lex's workers on a plain. Clark somehow finds out. The pilots parachute as the plain is flying towards a mountain. Clark needs to save her, and with all his might he lifts off the ground and just misses the plain he slows down, way up high and we see him floating. He pushes towards the plain and he rips the door open, just when he is about to pull her out, the plain crashes. Clark now flies over to Lex's manssion and Lex now has his mechanically advanced supersuite (just not super giant like in the comics) Lex denies everything. Clark and Lex break into a fight and eventually Clark throws Lex into the Kryptonite chamber and Lex is unconciouss and when Clark looks at Lex and what he had done to him, he runs away. The damages caused to Lex make Lex forget what happend so he goes to see his security recordings. We don't see what Lex sees. Clark and Jimmy mourne the loss of Chloe and they become closser friends.
Not much,

What can y'all come up with?

Instead of killing off Chloe, have her go into a coma or something and we have character development between Clark and Jimmy that way. So when Clark rips the door open, he grabs Chloe as the plane crashes, and Clark sees Chloe isnt waking up so he gets super pissed and then goes to lex. And we could have Lex testing out the suite in another room or something.

 

[TwilightPro101]

It's just due to be permenant one way or another on the show. They can only avoid it so long.

 

[Syncos]

I say bring on Clark learning to fly. When you really think about it, Clark having the ability to fly doesn't mean he has to fly everywhere all the time, like it seems people like to assume. Clark should bust out flight when it's necessary. It opens up abilities for plot and character development, and since he wouldn't be using it All the time, or even necessarily every episode, it wouldn't rock the budget up too much.

He's already got super speed, that's more than enough to get him around smallville, metropolis, etc.

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my 0.02.

 

[TwilightPro101]

That's if the budget can handle it.

 

[KalKai]

Everybody else who was capable of flying flew, yes it can, but they probably want to do it differently.

What about ditching 1 of the other super-powers, preferably super-speed, for flight?

 

[Abaddon]

how about he just learns to fly the same way he learned to use all of his other powers.

 

[TwilightPro101]

That would be a nice change, period. Something that we've really seen less and less of visually over the last few seasons.