I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

I could see Penguin meeting Bruce as a party or something while he’s undercover, saying something like “Ah, Slick, looks like we’ve been doing well for ourselves.” Then in the third act Bruce remembers Penguins new place in society that will provide him information.

I’m also leaning Arkham, as I’ve said before, maybe it’s personal bias talking but like someone mentioned above, the first film dealing with Bruce’s father, seems obvious to then deal with his mother, I think it’s unexpected but the seeds were definitely laid, and like Reeves said it would explore a side of Bruce we’ve never seen before. Especially if you mix elements of Hugo Strange into Jeremiah Arkham.

All that being said, I could definitely see Reeves using Hush for a third film, tying back into the Edward Elliot thing (which I think was more than just a nod)
 
Spit balling, but if Bruce's public persona is a big part of the story, Hush using his face feels like a very Reeves move. Especially with the questions about Bruce and his mother's mental health. Will Bruce think he's losing his mind? Could very well invite Arkham into the story.
 
What's the source on his role being key? I don't remember that
I’m not 100% sure, but I believe it came from an interview for the Penguin series, because Penguin was confirmed to return early on. It’s also possible that things may have changed, because originally Collin said that he heard he’d be in 5-6 (?) scenes. Now he says it’s a small role.
 
I'm very curious to see how Reeves decides to open this movie. I think the Riddler opening was an excellent way to set the tone. It was very unsettling.

As for the penguin, I do like that it is a very small role. We got to spend a lot of time with the character in the show, no need to over do it.
 
So are we gonna get the Billionaire Playboy persona from Bruce this time around?
If it’s still on the same schedule Reeves alluded due to during Penguin promotion last year, the movie will only take place about a month and a half after the first. I think it would be jarring to go from the socially awkward version we saw then to suddenly a playboy persona a month later.
 
I discovered a movie I didn't know.

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The Parallax View.
It's directed by Pakula, the same director who made All President's Men and Klute (both references to The Batman).

The interesting thing is that the big conspiracy involves a corporation that brainwashes unstable people into committing murder or crimes.
It's very similar to The Manchurian Candidate.

What if this was the main reference for Strange/Jeremiah and his Monsters Men?

Now imagine this subliminal brainwashing scene, but with Bruce trying to infiltrate...

 
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I will never have that big of an itch...good lord who the heck drew that?
 
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I wanted to sort of go back and recap:

The Batman: Part 2 will be set in the winter and focused heavily on Bruce. Matt says that Bruce will still be grappling with the aftermath of the events in the first film and find it difficult being Batman, because the city is divided and he sort of blames himself for what happened. In The Batman: Part 1, Batman saw the world very simplistically and that’s how he approached everything, but now things are much more grey and obscure. Now, the main villain comes from Bruce’s past who not only gives us a deep dive into that, but also challenges who he is as Bruce and Batman. This connection between Bruce and the villain, Matt says, has never really been done this way in a movie before. Meanwhile, Bella Reál has formed an anti-corruption task force that targets cops, city officials and Falcone’s associates. Penguin is one of these targets, but he also has a “pal” in the government.

Quotes from Matt:

“I think the story is a continuation, in a certain way, and completely different in another. It’s going to show different sides of Rob. I think it’s going to be really exciting, I think it’s going to be really cool.”

"These movies are very much telling the story of Batman's emotional arc, and the story is his point of view. Because they're mystery stories we're learning about other characters as they're involved in the detective story, so we're learning about them through him. A lot of times what happens is you establish the Batman in the first movie and then the next movie is the Riddler's movie or the Joker's movie and the rogues' gallery takes centre stage. I wanted to find a way to keep Batman as the central arc of the movies."

"Our entry point is absolutely connected to where we leave things in the [Penguin] series. There are details that actually connect right into the way the next movie begins, and the way that Oz enters that world as we hand the baton back to Batman, and Batman is on another case.

I would like these stories to be a meditation on the way Gotham is the way it is. It's such a brutal place and we're digging for the answers as to why these people's lives are this way. It's another mystery that's going to dig into the epic story about deeper corruption and it goes into places that he (Bruce) couldn't even anticipate in the first one. The seeds of where this goes are all in the first movie, and it expands in a way that will show you aspects of the character you never got to see.

Batman is constantly battling these forces. But those forces can't be entirely exorcised. So the next movie delves deeper into that."

Quote from Collin:

“ [The Batman: Part 2] is deeper, it's scarier. The stakes are higher emotionally.... Just as a fan of scripts and stories and films, it's so brilliant. And Matt, he took his time and he created just an extraordinary story, really. So full of feeling, really sad in parts. I'm very excited to see it, whatever my involvement in it."

As of now, the only cast members that have read the script and are officially set to return are Rob, Collin, Jeff and Andy.
 
Yeah that's interesting with him now having a limited role. Maybe he tries to make a deal with Penguin related to organized crime? Idk
My theory is that he'll be forced to make a secret deal. Realistically, they certainly have something to use against him; the guy was Carmine's right-hand man.

Part of the deal will likely involve handing over the names and information of people who were part of Carmine's network and frequented 44 Below. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the names he gives up is what leads Batman down the rabbit hole that will be the film's big mystery.
 

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