The Dark Knight In Heath We Trust: A Ledgerbration: The TDK Joker Appreciation Thread

[Crook]

but even if he did an amazing "impersonation" there wasn't that much acting... just a silly voice and quirky manerisms.

*confirms with judges*

Yes, that is quite in fact, COMPLETELY false.

 

[CaptainClown]

Capote was a boring film but he did a great job with his performance. I think Brokeback was the same way, really boring but good performances.
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pretty damn good job imo

 

[Patty]

Capote bored me to tears. I'm not old enough to remember the author he was acting, but even if he did an amazing "impersonation" there wasn't that much acting... just a silly voice and quirky manerisms. Heath on the other hand had the doubly difficult role of feigning intense passionate love for another man, and on top of that repressing it utterly through the characters history and personal beliefs.... and THEN break through it against his own will, and THEN break down completely in suffering when his lover was brutally killed.

I think that's far more difficult than what PSH did in Capote. Heath was ROBBED.

make out with another dude without looking like an awkward, giggly 17 year old girl or an uncomfortable homophobe. Not only did Heath do that, but he simulated sex AND acted like he was utterly in love with another man. What did Hoffman do? impersonated a chubby little quiet man.

HEATH WAS ROBBED. Plain and simple. S**t, I can pretend to be a quirky little chunky cherub, try acting like a gay cowboy in love with another man in 1960s Montana. Heath deserved the oscar, and Ive stuck to that opinion WAAAY before he was the Joker.

 

[Crook]

What did Hoffman do? impersonated a chubby little quiet man.

My god, what a foolproof argument. No bias there, no sir-ee.

 

[CaptainClown]

does nobody watch the videos I posted... I must be invisible..by god my dreams have come true..

 

[Clark Kent]

and THEN break down completely in suffering when his lover was brutally killed.

Oh, how I wish I hadn't read that bit. And here was I gonna watch Brokeback Mountain tomorrow cos I've never gotten round to seeing it before. Oh well, .

 

[Crook]

It's actually not that bad. Let's just say that the statement may or may not be true. You'll understand when you watch it.

 

[deathfromabove]

does nobody watch the videos I posted... I must be invisible..by god my dreams have come true..

i watched them both CC. i thought hoffman was great in an otherwise so so film. but PSH himself was robbed of a few nods prior and they gave him an award for capote. he is a great actor and he deserved it. heath was also brilliant and alot of people think he was robbed. that is why i think he has a good chance of getting a post humous statue.

 

[Patty]

My god, what a foolproof argument. No bias there, no sir-ee.

Not bias, but spite because the guy I was pullin for was robbed (I did the same thing in 2003 when "Gangs of New York" didnt get best picture)

 

[D.P.]

does nobody watch the videos I posted... I must be invisible..by god my dreams have come true..

Meh...Welcome to my SHH.

 

[deathfromabove]

Oh, how I wish I hadn't read that bit. And here was I gonna watch Brokeback Mountain tomorrow cos I've never gotten round to seeing it before. Oh well, .

yeah how about some spoiler tags before we give away the ending to a movie hmmmnnn?

Not bias, but spite because the guy I was pullin for was robbed (I did the same thing in 2003 when "Gangs of New York" didnt get best picture)

you can't return that coat because of "spite".

gangs of new york did not deserve best picture. DDL was great but the movie had problems imo.

 

[Patty]

you can't return that coat because of "spite".

Sure you can, give it a try. t:

 

[Clark Kent]

It's actually not that bad. Let's just say that the statement may or may not be true. You'll understand when you watch it.

That's reassuring, .

yeah how about some spoiler tags before we give away the ending to a movie hmmmnnn?

That ... not so much, .

Meh...Welcome to my SHH.

How come nobody notices you?

 

[CaptainClown]

i watched them both CC. i thought hoffman was great in an otherwise so so film. but PSH himself was robbed of a few nods prior and they gave him an award for capote. he is a great actor and he deserved it. heath was also brilliant and alot of people think he was robbed. that is why i think he has a good chance of getting a post humous statue.

I can always count on deathfromabove. I have felt that the oscars screw up quite a bit and make up for it the next year. Unfortunately there is someone who deserves it that year.

Meh...Welcome to my SHH.

who said that?t:

 

[CaptainClown]

gangs of new york did not deserve best picture. DDL was great but the movie had problems imo.

Loved the movie though ended very um..lame.

 

[Keyser Soze]

If you want to see a "Capote" caricatue, watch Toby Jones in "Infamous". Philip Seymour Hoffman gave us a nuanced, astounding performance in "Capote", and was well-deserving of his Best Actor Oscar.

 

[CaptainClown]

well I put videos up in the top of the thread you can view and compare

 

[obsidiana]

I wanted to see Brokeback Mountain because I did like Heath Ledger until I found out it was about two gay cowboys no offense to any gay cowboys but it totally ruined my fantasies about cowboys for all of one day lol just kidding!

A friend and I wanted to see it just because of the supposed controversy we heard surrounded the movie. My sister watched some of it because she wanted to see what the big deal was with it. She told me "when they started going at it I turned it." I don't think she finished the movie. I think I will watch it but just skip the love scenes (not because two men are making love I always skip love scenes in movies) and watch it. I am sure it is a good movie with a good storyline.

I enjoyed The Brothers Grimm though. I always wanted to see The Order though, but nobody would go with me. I can't wait to see him in The Dark Knight as the Joker. I also liked Ned Kelly and thought it was awesome but then again I am a sucker usually for historical movies.

 

[Patty]

I couldnt believe they showed Heaths pen fifteen in Brokeback. When I saw the sex scene I was like "Oh that isnt that ba-WHOA I JUST SAW HIS COCK!"

 

[CaptainClown]

does it really matter what you see?

 

[Patty]

does it really matter what you see?

Im just sayin it surprised me for an R rated movie. I had heard the sex scene was pretty controversial and when I saw it I was like "Oh that isnt that bad". Then when I saw the full frontal nudity, I just wasnt expecting it for an R rated movie. You really dont see full frontal male nudity in an R rated flick. Thats what Im tryin to say. I was surprised and since the sex scene was tamer than I thought, I wasnt expecting to see that shortly after, is all Im sayin.

I mean, It dont matter what you see, an amazing movie is amazing no matter what, Im just sayin I wasnt expecting them to get away with THAT.

 

[$klaary]

That is intresting
I would love to know what he was doing to have Nolan say that.

yeah me too. but i hope that is BS and he had totally freedom with the joker.
i would had a problem to know that heath couldn`t let his spirit go as far as he was able to.

 

[Jonathan Crane]

I just wasnt expecting it for an R rated movie. You really dont see full frontal male nudity in an R rated flick.

In Cronenberg's "Eastern Primises" there's A LOT of Mortensen's penis and it's R-rated.

 

[Hole Shot]

In Cronenberg's "Eastern Primises" there's A LOT of Mortensen's penis and it's R-rated.

Just saw Walk Hard last night and that had a moment.

 

[BatmanFanatic]

*confirms with judges*

Yes, that is quite in fact, COMPLETELY false.

Respectfully disagree.

Capote was a boring film but he did a great job with his performance. I think Brokeback was the same way, really boring but good performances.
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pretty damn good job imo

Like I said, a very fine impersonation. Impersonating however, is not acting. Not to me anyway. Heath wasn't pretending to be a person who had previously existed, he didn't have the luxury of studying video tapes and copying voices and manerisms. He had to make this wild character out of nothing, with all his extremes and yet make him seem so real and believable.

make out with another dude without looking like an awkward, giggly 17 year old girl or an uncomfortable homophobe. Not only did Heath do that, but he simulated sex AND acted like he was utterly in love with another man. What did Hoffman do? impersonated a chubby little quiet man.

HEATH WAS ROBBED. Plain and simple. S**t, I can pretend to be a quirky little chunky cherub, try acting like a gay cowboy in love with another man in 1960s Montana. Heath deserved the oscar, and Ive stuck to that opinion WAAAY before he was the Joker.

As um... quirky as this argument is I agree. I believe it would be far more difficult for a straight man to feign utter, uncontrollable passion towards another man, while also believably acting extremely repressed in 1960s Montana and torn by his own feelings, to get over any and all discomfort one might have during those intense love scenes (though they weren't that long in the film, they would have been shot for days to get them just right...) and I think that kind of bravery and openness as an actor is far more difficult and impressive than doing a funny voice.

Sorry, but I just find what Heath did to be utterly amazing and ground breaking. His passionate and believable performance ROCKED the US and there wouldn't have been so much controversy if the film didn't really start changing how people look at love and homosexuality because of what these actors did.

does nobody watch the videos I posted... I must be invisible..by god my dreams have come true..

Hey I saw them, thanks for putting them up Now lets see some Brokeback ones to compare!

Oh, how I wish I hadn't read that bit. And here was I gonna watch Brokeback Mountain tomorrow cos I've never gotten round to seeing it before. Oh well, .

Hey, I DID have spoiler tags. But it was ruined for me before I saw it as well, and it was still just as good. I mean, you don't really expect a happy ending to a tragic love story do you?

I wanted to see Brokeback Mountain because I did like Heath Ledger until I found out it was about two gay cowboys no offense to any gay cowboys but it totally ruined my fantasies about cowboys for all of one day lol just kidding!

A friend and I wanted to see it just because of the supposed controversy we heard surrounded the movie. My sister watched some of it because she wanted to see what the big deal was with it. She told me "when they started going at it I turned it." I don't think she finished the movie. I think I will watch it but just skip the love scenes (not because two men are making love I always skip love scenes in movies) and watch it. I am sure it is a good movie with a good storyline.

I enjoyed The Brothers Grimm though. I always wanted to see The Order though, but nobody would go with me. I can't wait to see him in The Dark Knight as the Joker. I also liked Ned Kelly and thought it was awesome but then again I am a sucker usually for historical movies.

Okay, honestly the sex scene is like a few seconds. Though I didn't see the frontal nudity everyone is talking about so perhaps the version I downloaded was edited for broadcast or something. I plan on buying the film later on anyway.

I couldnt believe they showed Heaths pen fifteen in Brokeback. When I saw the sex scene I was like "Oh that isnt that ba-WHOA I JUST SAW HIS COCK!"

People can be so immature about nudity... nothing against you, I just notice that in the US everyone freaks out about "what they saw" in the movies. In Europe no one would really care.

In Cronenberg's "Eastern Primises" there's A LOT of Mortensen's penis and it's R-rated.

Full nudity is allowed for both genders in rated R movies. It's just rarely the men because naked women are more likely to sell films =P You only get NC-17 if there is graphic sexuality, porn basically is the only thing to get an NC-17 rating.