The Dark Knight In Heath We Trust: A Ledgerbration: The TDK Joker Appreciation Thread

[Korben Dallas]

 

[Mr. Joker]

It was brutal, violent, and AMAZING.

Nearly my entire theater (including me & my father) started laughing at that part. H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S

 

[Jspider13]

NICE

 

[Nightmare]

Very nice

Also, nice arnold Avy

 

[Mr. Joker]

Man, I thought Heath did such a spectacular job that I'm going to model one of my very own characters after him (besides, the character is inspired his Joker & the Crow, anyway). That'll be my tribute to him in addition to me having seen the movie twice.

 

[Mdizzle]

very sad he won't be returning...especially because he brought amazing depth to the character, and as far as his conversation with Bale went near the end of the movie, there were some things left hanging (ha). I liked the perverted symbiosis between the Joker and Batman, and it's really a shame we won't get to see more.

 

[Mr. Joker]

I know, and I don't see any actor anytime soon doing as good as he did which is a true shame. Damn scientists need to hurry up with their time machines...

 

[Mdizzle]

I know, and I don't see any actor anytime soon doing as good as he did which is a true shame. Damn scientists need to hurry up with their time machines...

Haha for real. And I mean, this plot/story line will be the cliffhanger that never really gets concluded...wouldn't be surprised if they reference Heath/Joker in the next film but obviously it won't be complete without the actor/character there himself to bring the story full-circle.

Maybe if there's extra footage they can somehow manip him in? I wish!

 

[DoomRulz]

I know, and I don't see any actor anytime soon doing as good as he did which is a true shame. Damn scientists need to hurry up with their time machines...

I'm with you. We need that ****!!!

 

[Mr. Joker]

If they did that with the next ten or twenty years, I'd so go back & save Heath...and 2Pac.

 

[chamber-music]

TERRY GILLIAM: The great thing about it is that when Heath died, and we have a character that wasn't finished in the movie, those three actors [Johnny Depp, Jude Law, and Colin Farrell] came along and saved the day. And so the character is now basically four actors creating one character. And that's . . . it's very interesting, and maybe even more interesting than it would have been with one actor going all the way through. I'm still not the best judge, because I have in my head what the film was going to be with Heath all the way through, and now there's a different film there. But all I know is, it's very funny.

Gilliam sounded proud of his film and genuinely awed by the generosity of the actors who came forward to save the picture and ensure its completion. Despite their high profiles, Depp, Law, and Farrell took no compensation for their work; instead, they donated their salaries to Heath Ledger's two-year-old daughter, Matilda:

TERRY GILLIAM: The three actors were totally heroic coming in. This doesn't happen very often . . . where there's a tragedy like this, and very famous, very successful actors suddenly say, "Okay, we'll do whatever it takes to help." They came; they did the work; they allowed the movie to be finished; they didn't take money--the money goes to Heath's daughter. That's extraordinary! And wonderful . . . and when you're part of that, you think, "Ah, this is maybe why I went into the movies, in the beginning. I thought it would be full of wonderful people. And in our case, we've got a movie full of wonderful people, who did extraordinary things to help.

I think its awesome that Depp, Law and Farrell are giving their salaries to Heaths daughter t:

 

[Nepenthes]

^ Like she needs it. I want to know how many people die a year from prescription overdoses and what can be done to educate the dimmer or more desperate patients (in Ledgers case). Ledger has acting scholarships in his name already and I don;t think a little money on awareness would go astray either.

 

[Beanjuice]

please stop talking

 

[I Am The Knight]

please stop talking

OK

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

no other joker will ever beat heaths joker...

 

[Scarlet Spider]

My apologies if this has already been posted somewhere else, but here's a really good article about how Grant Morrison recently had a chance to look at Heath Ledger's Joker diary. Really interesting stuff.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/08/04/arkham-asylum-scribe-grant-morrison-opens-up-heath-ledgers-joker-diary/

‘Arkham Asylum’ Scribe Grant Morrison Opens Up Heath Ledger’s Joker Diary

Published by Jennifer Vineyard on Monday, August 4, 2008 at 11:23 am.

Heath Ledger’s Joker — no question it was an amazing performance. And if he were still with us, we could ask him about his various inspirations: what did he watch, what did he read, what did he observe, how did he inhabit his character? Well, one of the clues he left us was his Joker diary, which he kept four a months before shooting.

In it, there’s a list of what would make the Joker laugh – including AIDS, landmines, geniuses suffering irreversible brain damage, brunch, and sombreros. “It gave me this chill,” Grant Morrison said, because it was word-for-word what Morrison had written in one of his Batman stories.

“There’s a Batman [Batman #663, “The Clown at Midnight”] that I did last year that hardly anyone read,” Morrison said.

As a response to his own “Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth,” Morrison had continued his themes of the duality of Joker and the Batman in “The Clown at Midnight.” Having established with “Arkham” that the Joker had a sort of “super-sanity” and that he shifted between personalities,” Morrison explored the idea further in “The Clown at Midnight,” by showing that each time the Joker escaped, one of those new personalities would emerge.

“It’s a really good story,” Morrison said, “but because it was prose, people didn’t want to read it.”

Except, apparently, Heath, who saw Morrison’s list and put it in his Joker diary. “He actually had a whole list — blind babies, doctors, accidents — really horrible stuff,” Morrison said. “Heath wrote it all down. So yeah, I can see there’s a lot of [‘Arkham’ and ‘Midnight’] in his Joker.”

The filmmakers have taken great pains to acknowledge the original comics they drew from, Morrison pointed out. With those shout-outs, sales for the originals have skyrocketed – not just for “Arkham,” but also Alan Moore’s “The Killing Joke,” Frank Miller’s “Year One” and “Dark Knight Returns,” and Jeph Loeb’s “Long Halloween.”

“David Goyer has said they owe a debt to us,” Morrison said. “And it’s really easy to see our influence. But at the same time, they also created something quite new and extraordinary.”

 

[jackjack924]

brunch?! HA.

 

[Raiden]

I think its awesome that Depp, Law and Farrell are giving their salaries to Heaths daughter t:

I think it's very generous of these three talented and A list actors, to not only help Heath finish the film, but also donate the money to his daughter. Yes, they are all wealthy, but that doesn't diminish their selfless act. Kudos to all three actors.

 

[tuffenoughtoroc]

My apologies if this has already been posted somewhere else, but here's a really good article about how Grant Morrison recently had a chance to look at Heath Ledger's Joker diary. Really interesting stuff.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/08/0...-morrison-opens-up-heath-ledgers-joker-diary/

That's really neat!

 

[p4poetic]

Reading the beginning of this thread is depressing...such high hopes and excitement and then...well, you know what happened.

 

[p4poetic]

I think it's very generous of these three talented and A list actors, to not only help Heath finish the film, but also donate the money to his daughter. Yes, they are all wealthy, but that doesn't diminish their selfless act. Kudos to all three actors.

Wow, I didn't know that. That's great.

 

[TheFuture]

Excuse me for venting my frustration lads but I have a gripe. A gripe with people saying that one role doesn't make a great actor. But it wasn't just one role.

Putting his good performances in the likes of Candy and Monster's Ball aside (which both prove his acting chops )......

Look, I have no problem with people choosing not to watch Brokeback Mountain if it makes them uncomfortable. But don't ignore that it exists, that Ledger was consistently hailed for his performance and that Ledger was nominated for an Oscar for his performance just because of your own insecurities and prejudices.

Sorry but I had to vent lads. Too many idiots have said that to me for the past 6 months.

 

[jackjack924]

Excuse me for venting my frustration lads but I have a gripe. A gripe with people saying that one role doesn't make a great actor. But it wasn't just one role.

Putting his good performances in the likes of Candy and Monster's Ball aside (which both prove his acting chops )......

Look, I have no problem with people choosing not to watch Brokeback Mountain if it makes them uncomfortable. But don't ignore that it exists, that Ledger was consistently hailed for his performance and that Ledger was nominated for an Oscar for his performance just because of your own insecurities and prejudices.

Sorry but I had to vent lads. Too many idiots have said that to me for the past 6 months.

I concur. Brokeback Mountain is an amazing film and Heath Ledger is phenomenal. Though you can't compare the two because they are so different. He played Ennis with such an quiet intensity that it was almost shocking to see that same intensity used in such a different way. And if you're not comfortable with the 'gay' thing, get over it because you're missing out.

 

[TheFuture]

I concur. Brokeback Mountain is an amazing film and Heath Ledger is phenomenal. Though you can't compare the two because they are so different. He played Ennis with such an quiet intensity that it was almost shocking to see that same intensity used in such a different way. And if you're not comfortable with the 'gay' thing, get over it because you're missing out.

Exacty. Two totally different roles, yet both of them were phenomenal.

I'm straight, but I had to see BM because it was the only movie that had really highlighted his acting skills. I had to see if he had what it took to pull of the Joker.

 

[SLYspyder]

I want to know all the people that were crying last year when the first picture of the Joker was revealed.

Right when I saw that picture, I understood Nolan's vision.