Interstellar - Part 7

[Schlosser85]

Inception's only hard to understand if you're not paying attention.

 

[Schlosser85]

I find it even funnier that he's reading from a script to them. Like this is the big moment he's been waiting for and he can't have it go any less than perfect. It's like awwww Joker, lol.

I love that too. I think it's hilarious when it cuts to Joker up in the building and you see the script in his hand.

It's like he's aware in an almost Deadpool kind of way that he's an over-the-top supervillain in a comic book movie, and he thought long and hard about his supervillain speech.

I picture him sitting in a dark room for hours, furiously scribbling out dozens of drafts.

All the physical stuff Ledger does at the Wayne party is great too. It's like he's trying to focus on his agenda, but he almost loses his train of thought sampling the food and wine. I like when he throws all the wine out of the glass, then takes a drink.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Inception's only hard to understand if you're not paying attention.

Bingo.

I dated a girl who said she didn't understand it. She's not dumb by any means, but she had a habit of never paying attention to movies or TV shows, so my guess is, she was multitasking while watching it.

 

[Schlosser85]

My roommate tends to be easily confused by movies and he followed Inception just fine.

 

[Travesty]

I think it can only be confusing, if you missed the part that time is relative depending on what level of dream you're in, or if you just don't understand that concept. Other than that, it's a pretty straight forward movie.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah.

(Which of course, translates to the movie being "stupid" according to some posters 'round these parts.)

 

[DeadPresident]

That's another thing I don't get.
This notion that Nolan makes self-important movies. How does one glean that from any of his movies? Inception is "pretentious, pseudo-intellectualism" because it's "hard to understand". Eh, it's not that hard. Sorry you had to think a little at the movie theatre.

You'd be surprised how many people conflate "bad story telling" with "not being spoon-fed", if it's too complicated a lot of people like to play the "hard to follow" card. People unfortunately don't like to think.

 

[redhawk23]

2001 wouldnt even get made today. The focus groups would murder it and the producers would have triple heart attacks just reading the script.

Its funny to think in 2014 we are so far behind of what is shown in that movie, hell i think we are going even backwards in some things. Funny how people try to anticipate the future like minority report, 2001, etc and they are so far off target

A lot of the design work in Minority Report are pretty well purposefully stylized, but a lot the concepts in that movie, are becoming very true in the modern surveillance state.

 

[Rowsdower!]

You'd be surprised how many people conflate "bad story telling" with "not being spoon-fed", if it's too complicated a lot of people like to play the "hard to follow" card. People unfortunately don't like to think.

Yeah, but then there are also the ones who seem to think ANY explanation whatsoever is spoonfeeding, which also equates to bad storytelling.

I wish I had the talent to be a screenwriter or director, but on the other hand, I'm almost glad I'm not because it just seems like a no-win scenario when it comes to criticism.

 

[DeadPresident]

Yeah, but then there are also the ones who seem to think ANY explanation whatsoever is spoonfeeding, which also equates to bad storytelling.

I wish I had the talent to be a screenwriter or director, but on the other hand, I'm almost glad I'm not because it just seems like a no-win scenario when it comes to criticism.

Yeah, that's actually a fair point. There needs to be a decent balance between providing detail but not treating the audience like they have IQs under 100 (which could be the case if you're looking at what's popular). I don't think Nolan's films fall into that category often, there are a few plot issues, but nothing too ridiculous. I might be too forgiving but I feel like if there's a lack of explanation for something but it is within the realm of possibility I don't need the film maker to show me, I have enough imagination to come up with scenarios for how something trivial occurred without needing it to be spelled out.

Popular film nowadays really is constructed for the lowest common denominator though, from what I've seen. Maybe it always has though and I'm only paying attention now.

 

[Agent Orange]

Fixed.

That too.

 

[Agent Orange]

Yeah, but then there are also the ones who seem to think ANY explanation whatsoever is spoonfeeding, which also equates to bad storytelling.

I wish I had the talent to be a screenwriter or director, but on the other hand, I'm almost glad I'm not because it just seems like a no-win scenario when it comes to criticism.

The New York Times profile on Nolan is an excellent read.

“The single-most important thing was the art of working in the studio system,” Nolan told me of his experience with “Insomnia.” “It takes time to learn how to take notes. In the corporate structure, the people giving you the notes are not responsible for the final product. You are. It’s not their job, it’s yours. When you’re taking notes, it’s possible that you’re having an interesting conversation with a very smart individual and everything they’re saying is correct. But they’re wrong. So you have to go back and approach it from a different angle.” He continues to treat executives as, essentially, representative filmgoers. At a development meeting — at, in other words, a conference-room table — before “The Dark Knight,” he had to explain the Joker’s motivations. “Execs are very good at saying things like, ‘What’s the bad guy’s plan?’ They know those engines have to be very powerful. I had to say: ‘The Joker represents chaos, anarchy. He has no logical objective in mind.’ I had to explain it to them, and that’s when I realized I had to explain it to the audience.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/02/m...expansive-mind-of-christopher-nolan.html?_r=0

Nolan refuses to call this a creative compromise, but when you're dealing with big budgets, you're going to have to compromise on occasion.

 

[Agent Orange]

I love that too. I think it's hilarious when it cuts to Joker up in the building and you see the script in his hand.

It's like he's aware in an almost Deadpool kind of way that he's an over-the-top supervillain in a comic book movie, and he thought long and hard about his supervillain speech.

I picture him sitting in a dark room for hours, furiously scribbling out dozens of drafts.

All the physical stuff Ledger does at the Wayne party is great too. It's like he's trying to focus on his agenda, but he almost loses his train of thought sampling the food and wine. I like when he throws all the wine out of the glass, then takes a drink.

Here's another fantastic Joker moment.

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His reactions are hilarious. He's so self-satisfied.

 

[Persona]

Something that sounded familiar when I looked over this interview

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/oct/27/interstellar-first-look-review-matthew-mcconoughey




This sentiment echos what people thought about his Batman movies


why do people keep saying things like this? Is his humor too high brow?

aside from the whole question of whether Nolan's films have humor or not (short answer: yes, obviously, if perhaps a bit more dry than how humor comes off in other genre movies) that quote is just hilarious.

to paraphrase: "So Nolan made an awe-inspiring, artful epic...BUT WHAT ABOUT FUN."

 

[Persona]

okay, so, I don't usually get angry at reviews, it's just opinions and whatever, but i saw the blurb for Zacharek's review on MC and was just, like, "you've got to be kidding me..."

Whatever his strengths may be, Nolan lacks the human touch. His movies are numbingly sexless, and by that I don’t mean they need sex scenes or nudity -- those things are rarely really about sex anyway. But in all of Nolan’s films, human connection is such a noble idea that it’s beyond the grasp of flesh-and-blood people.

I'm avoiding her full review because you guys warned about spoilers, so maybe the context clarifies that comment. but I'm actually kind of offended by the point she seems to be making. I absolutely do not think Nolan's films portray human connection in a way that's so "noble" that it's unattainable in real life, and I think more films should try to depict characters struggling towards that nobility. I don't know, maybe it's just different life experience. I feel like I've experienced a number of relationships that aren't about this ideological sex or whatever it is she's on about and are more about something selfless and giving. Maybe she hasn't experienced that and so some of Nolan's character motivations and relationships ring false to her. I don't know. I'm sure if I read the review it would make more sense, but I can't risk it.

 

[Agent Orange]

okay, so, I don't usually get angry at reviews, it's just opinions and whatever, but i saw the blurb for Zacharek's review on MC and was just, like, "you've got to be kidding me..."

Whatever his strengths may be, Nolan lacks the human touch. His movies are numbingly sexless, and by that I don’t mean they need sex scenes or nudity -- those things are rarely really about sex anyway. But in all of Nolan’s films, human connection is such a noble idea that it’s beyond the grasp of flesh-and-blood people.

I'm avoiding her full review because you guys warned about spoilers, so maybe the context clarifies that comment. but I'm actually kind of offended by the point she seems to be making. I absolutely do not think Nolan's films portray human connection in a way that's so "noble" that it's unattainable in real life, and I think more films should try to depict characters struggling towards that nobility. I don't know, maybe it's just different life experience. I feel like I've experienced a number of relationships that aren't about this ideological sex or whatever it is she's on about and are more about something selfless and giving. Maybe she hasn't experienced that and so some of Nolan's character motivations and relationships ring false to her. I don't know. I'm sure if I read the review it would make more sense, but I can't risk it.

It doesn't. She rambles. And yeah, spoilers abound.

 

[StarLord]

For any fellow UK peeps, Anne and Matthew are on the Graham Norton show, which starts in 15 mins...

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I wonder if he will brng up the mixed critical response? Nah. It's frickin Norton.

 

[Faora]

Matthew Mcconaughey on his 2014 Oscar Winning Moment - The Graham Norton Show on BBC America
[YT]watch?v=L90Au_m1tRY[/YT]
Anne Hathaway is a huge Matthew McConaughey Magic Mike Fan - The Graham Norton Show on BBC America
[YT]watch?v=TB0D9QQSUQ0[/YT]
Anne Hathaway's Interstellar One-Legged Zero Gravity Move - The Graham Norton Show on BBC America
[YT]watch?v=NqcsCw-O7Qw[/YT]
INTERSTELLAR - Fragment: Matthew McConaughey
[YT]watch?v=CdweiTzjuuM[/YT]

New TV-spot:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=929213607106330

 

[ThreadPool]

You'd be surprised how many people conflate "bad story telling" with "not being spoon-fed", if it's too complicated a lot of people like to play the "hard to follow" card. People unfortunately don't like to think.

True.

Yeah, but then there are also the ones who seem to think ANY explanation whatsoever is spoonfeeding, which also equates to bad storytelling.

I wish I had the talent to be a screenwriter or director, but on the other hand, I'm almost glad I'm not because it just seems like a no-win scenario when it comes to criticism.

Bingo. I might try my hand at screenwriting one day but what's the balance?

 

[AnneFan]

Anne Hathaway's Interstellar One-Legged Zero Gravity Move - The Graham Norton Show on BBC America
[YT]watch?v=NqcsCw-O7Qw[/YT]

That was funny. She's always a good sport and guest on these talk shows.

 

[StarLord]

I think that was her first appearance on his show, but it was like she had been there before.

Anne and Matthew were great tonight.

 

[ThreadPool]

Hey, maybe she can go on Letterman and he can blow the ending again!

 

[Mysteryman]

Is there any movie out there right now, even a space based documentary ,
that is a good warm up film before seeing Interstellar ?

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Guardians of the Galaxy