Interstellar - Part 8

[Deserana]

I never got the exposition complaints about Nolan. Only in TDKR. People say Inception is like a lecture, it was fine for me. As long as the dialogue isn't boring as **** Im cool with it. It's space theory. Sometimes you just cant show things through visuals you do have to tell.

Anyway 3 questions for the folks in this thread who've seen it.

Just how much do the trailers give away? Cause all I get is most of it will take place on Earth and the Ice planet. Or is that really not the case?

How bizarre is the ending (without spoilers if that's possible) like does it just do a 180 or is it something thats hinted at?

Some reviews hinted that it was actually quite a fast paced film. Is that true?

 

[kvz5]

There was one Oscar pundit (I think it's Feinberg?) who made a comment that out of all his films, this is THE ONE that Nolan wanted an Oscar the most. I believe it. As much as we like to make fun of the Oscars and much as we like to think that our favorite actors/actresses are too cool to care about it, I still think that almost all of them want one.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The ending is hinted at from the very beginning. But that doesn't change it from being bonkers.

About the pace: let's just say it is not delibately paced like 2001. It is much closer to conventional blockbusters.

 

[weezerspider]

I never got the exposition complaints about Nolan. Only in TDKR. People say Inception is like a lecture, it was fine for me. As long as the dialogue isn't boring as **** Im cool with it. It's space theory. Sometimes you just cant show things through visuals you do have to tell.

Anyway 3 questions for the folks in this thread who've seen it.

Just how much do the trailers give away? Cause all I get is most of it will take place on Earth and the Ice planet. Or is that really not the case?

How bizarre is the ending (without spoilers if that's possible) like does it just do a 180 or is it something thats hinted at?

Some reviews hinted that it was actually quite a fast paced film. Is that true?

1. The trailers really don't give away much at all. Especially the final act.

2. It doesn't do a 180, it's just...out there. Really out there. It has a lot more in common with 2001 than anyone thought.

3. It's paced like a blockbuster film. The pace, the budget and the scale are "blockbustery". Nothing else is.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The ending is actually laid out in the first act though, weez.

 

[weezerspider]

The ending is actually laid out in the first act though, weez.

True, but I wouldn't call it expected, nor would anyone guess the ending. That's what I mean by out there.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The element of the daddy-daughter bond was incredibly crucial to the ending though. The sheer ludicrousness of it all was cushioned by the fact that you cared about these people. If Nolan approached the film in his usual cool, detached way it would've failed completely.

 

[Snow Queen]

Only 2 more hours. t:

 

[weezerspider]

The element of the daddy-daughter bond was incredibly crucial to the ending though. The sheer ludicrousness of it all was cushioned by the fact that you cared about these people. If Nolan approached the film in his usual cool, detached way it would've failed completely.

Agreed. Honestly, the majority of the narrative relies on that, IMO. That's not a bad thing. In fact, I prefer it. I'm a character guy. I'll take two good characters talking for two hours over a well written twisting and turning plot any day.

 

[titansupes]

True, but I wouldn't call it expected, nor would anyone guess the ending. That's what I mean by out there.

I actually did guess it. I mean, not in detail, but

Spoiler

as soon as Murph talked about the "ghost" at table when she has the Lunar Lander model, I thought "Cooper or Cooper's spirit is somehow going to return to Earth in the past and be a part of his daughter's life in that form". I thought he might be on another plane of existence, able to touch ours, but not be seen or heard. I called it that second (but not the 5th dimensional tesseract in a black whole and returning in the flesh or anything).

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Agreed. Honestly, the majority of the narrative relies on that, IMO. That's not a bad thing. In fact, I prefer it. I'm a character guy. I'll take two good characters talking for two hours over a well written twisting and turning plot any day.

Guess you don't care about Inception much? What about Memento and Prestige?

I think The Prestige is the one film where Nolan gets the balance between fragmented narrative and character right.

 

[AnneFan]

The ending is actually laid out in the first act though, weez.

A bit like Alfred's dream speech in TDKR?

 

[titansupes]

^ Exactly like that.

 

[weezerspider]

Guess you don't care about Inception much? What about Memento and Prestige?

I think The Prestige is the one film where Nolan gets the balance between fragmented narrative and character right.

I don't hold any of those films particularly high, no. They aren't bad by any means, but as I said, I prefer character studies.


I've never disliked a Nolan film. I've also never loved a non-Batman Nolan film (I love TDK, but I can't help but think I wouldn't like it as much if I didn't already have pre-relations with the characters growing up) until now. Interstellar was Nolan living up to his potential. He still cut too much in Interstellar and needs to make a ****ing shot sheet, but he finally put his characters and craft before the narrative. As Scorsese said "Plot is boring." Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Mysteryman]

Came back from it....and I have the same reaction from it as I did when I watched Aronofsky's The Fountain. Thoughts are fragmented. Will need time to give them form. I shall post my review tomorrow.

But aside from that, I didn't realize how important that shot of the bookshelf on the teaser was. Like really really important.

Now you have me going back to the teaser and staring at the bookshelf !

 

[Marvolo]

My local theater did a sound check of their BigD auditorium to prepare for Interstellar's premiere tonight and as a part of that they did a special screening for the staff. I was buying my tickets for tomorrow night and one of the staff said it was the best film she has ever seen. All of the staff that saw it loved it!

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Now you have me going back to the teaser and staring at the bookshelf !

You now know how important it is. But you won't know why until you see it.

Speaking of the teaser, I expected the music featured in it to to feature in some small form. But I never guessed it woukd be the main theme! I guess that was the piece Nolan had Zimmer write before he even saw any footage. Zimmer's most affecting, haunting work since Gladiator.

 

[Deserana]

You now know how important it is. But you won't know why until you see it.

Sounds like the spinning top.

God all these comments still give me no idea what to expect t:. I dont even have a clue when Im gonna be able to see it.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Not quite so specific like the spinning top. No. Something else is analogous to the top. Which I will stop myself from saying.

 

[Jekecy]

This is why, I really do think regardless of all the polarized reactions to the film, Nolan does at least deserve a Best Director nomination just for the sheer craftsmanship of this thing. I kind of doubt he'll get one, but that would qualify as another snub IMO.

After Inception and TDK, I don't know how the Academy could get away with snubbing Nolan a third time. Especially for this film. Though I suppose it's all moot considering the actual statue is going to be a photo-finish between Alejandro González Iñárritu and Richard Linklater.

The one I'm curious about is Hans. I'm not sure what exactly precluded him from being nominated for Inception, but it's going to be a travesty if it happens again for Interstellar. It's unlike anything I've heard from him and it so perfectly complemented the visuals.

 

[Marvolo]

I cant remember if it was his Inception score, but Im pretty sure he has had a score disqualified from nomination due to some red tape BS that had somethig to do with him collaborating with people on the score. There were too many people listed as the composer or something and Zimmer refused to give anyone including himself any more credit than anyone else. The academy refused to recognize this and disqualified the score. It was something like that.

 

[DKDetective]

I don't know what I think. As many have mentioned, the visuals, composition and score were great. However, ironically apart from TARS and CASE, I found the characters rather one-note and the plot very simplistic. I actually didn't find the third act that out there at all. It is spelled out multiple times leading up to it. I enjoyed how emotional the film was trying to be at times, the emotional themes were rather one-note. The film might warrant a second viewing due to having seen it after a long day at work and maybe missed some of the subtext, but right now it is towards the bottom of my Nolan rankings. The film should definitely win awards for the effects though. They were phenomenal.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[The Joker]

A rating poll should be added to the thread since people are seeing it now.

 

[jmc]

I love you Miss Hathaway.