Interstellar - Part 8

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Heh, yeah, people say that so much around here.

It is being said a lot on here and I'm sick of it already.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I am going to posit that the fanboy idolization of Nolan will end with this movie. He is no longer the director of Batman films, and this movie (shockingly) is so anti-blockbuster in its pace and approach that it will turn off a lot of mainstream viewers who liked the whiteknuckled speed of his last three movies, including Inception. Further, the ending is so out of left field (but leaves you thinking more and more even a few days later) that it will piss a lot of people off.

I think Interstellar is a fantastically flawed film that will probably become a sci-fi classic. But now that Nolan is no longer a superhero movie director, the gloves are coming off in fanboy circles. What seemed fresh and revelatory in 2008 is old and antiquated in the minds of many fans (just read this thread) who are ready for the new shininess of Zack Snyder and/or the MCU. The backlash is coming, and this movie will be it, because it is decidedly not like his last three movies and while it works (I think), it is not perfect.

But who knows. In five years or so after Snyder/DCCU are no longer so new, things might swing around. And I suspect a faithful portion of the audience will still be talking about Interstellar then, because there is not much like it in scope made by moviemakers these days. It's out of left field and polarizing. It is going to piss people off.

I cannot wait until it is thus seen by more folks.

I for one hope he gets back to smaller scale films, but he has dismissed that already. I think it would be awesome to see him direct Devil in The White City.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It is being said a lot on here and I'm sick of it already.

I think there is a difference between not understanding the basic plot and premise of a film, and not understanding the subtext. I have seen that very recently with Nightcrawler.

Prometheus failed in many ways, including when it comes to the fundamentals of storytelling.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

This is on such another tier than Prometheus, it's not even fair.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This is on such another tier than Prometheus, it's not even fair.

In what way?

 

[Tim_Riggins]

In what way? Meaning it's on another level entirely, especially in terms of filmmaking (Interstellar being on another level obviously) I'm not even sure you could compare the two really, it's just because someone brought it up.

 

[jmc]

Prometheus to me was just poor execution and not some misunderstood gem that some like to refer to it as.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Prometheus to me was just poor execution and not some misunderstood gem that some like to refer to it as.

Yeah, I agree.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I have no issue with others thinking that Prometheus is a misunderstood gem, just don't accuse those of us who disliked it of being idiots.

I'm not going to argue about the actual quality of Interstellar because I haven't seen it and I don't review films that I haven't seen. But I respect the opinions of the people who do and do not like it.

 

[Travesty]

In what way? Meaning it's on another level entirely, especially in terms of filmmaking (Interstellar being on another level obviously) I'm not even sure you could compare the two really, it's just because someone brought it up.

ISS wasn't comparing the two movies, she was comparing the response the movies were getting/have got.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I definitely wasn't comparing the content of the two films as I have only seen one of them.

 

[DeadPresident]

It is being said a lot on here and I'm sick of it already.

To be fair it occurs from time to time. I don't agree in the case of Prometheus particularly, but there are plenty of people who watched Drive and said it was a bad movie because it wasn't about car chases all the time. That's a good example of "not getting the point".

I agree with the general dislike for that comment being used as a copout to legitimate criticism though. But there is a minority prevalence of people who are cinematic simpletons and don't understand what some movies are trying to communicate.

 

[marcvader]

Four hours since my screening and I'm still thinking about Interstellar. It's not a perfect movie but maybe it just shouldn't be. I'm ok with that. Can't wait to see it tomorrow again (and this time with my whole family).

I would friggin hope so or else you have the attention span of a goldfish.

On I side note, the hyperbole in this thread is through the roof.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Why saying that it is hyperbole? If you don't like the movie that much, of course you're going to call it hyperbole. There's good reason for it I'd say, it's just a matter of POV.

 

[Jumpman]

I am going to posit that the fanboy idolization of Nolan will end with this movie. He is no longer the director of Batman films, and this movie (shockingly) is so anti-blockbuster in its pace and approach that it will turn off a lot of mainstream viewers who liked the whiteknuckled speed of his last three movies, including Inception. Further, the ending is so out of left field (but leaves you thinking more and more even a few days later) that it will piss a lot of people off.

I think Interstellar is a fantastically flawed film that will probably become a sci-fi classic. But now that Nolan is no longer a superhero movie director, the gloves are coming off in fanboy circles. What seemed fresh and revelatory in 2008 is old and antiquated in the minds of many fans (just read this thread) who are ready for the new shininess of Zack Snyder and/or the MCU. The backlash is coming, and this movie will be it, because it is decidedly not like his last three movies and while it works (I think), it is not perfect.

But who knows. In five years or so after Snyder/DCCU are no longer so new, things might swing around. And I suspect a faithful portion of the audience will still be talking about Interstellar then, because there is not much like it in scope made by moviemakers these days. It's out of left field and polarizing. It is going to piss people off.

I cannot wait until it is thus seen by more folks.

I fear and think you're going to be on the money with this statement...because it already began when we got photos of Affleck as the Bat.

I'm dying to get to Saturday to see this. Just can't wait.

 

[green]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/06/b...-publicity-tug-of-war.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Old news.

 

[BatLobster]

I am going to posit that the fanboy idolization of Nolan will end with this movie. He is no longer the director of Batman films, and this movie (shockingly) is so anti-blockbuster in its pace and approach that it will turn off a lot of mainstream viewers who liked the whiteknuckled speed of his last three movies, including Inception. Further, the ending is so out of left field (but leaves you thinking more and more even a few days later) that it will piss a lot of people off.

I think Interstellar is a fantastically flawed film that will probably become a sci-fi classic. But now that Nolan is no longer a superhero movie director, the gloves are coming off in fanboy circles. What seemed fresh and revelatory in 2008 is old and antiquated in the minds of many fans (just read this thread) who are ready for the new shininess of Zack Snyder and/or the MCU. The backlash is coming, and this movie will be it, because it is decidedly not like his last three movies and while it works (I think), it is not perfect.

But who knows. In five years or so after Snyder/DCCU are no longer so new, things might swing around. And I suspect a faithful portion of the audience will still be talking about Interstellar then, because there is not much like it in scope made by moviemakers these days. It's out of left field and polarizing. It is going to piss people off.

I cannot wait until it is thus seen by more folks.

I've been thinking along the same lines.

I do think that post-TDK, there was this expectation that his movies are always going to be these high-octane, white-knuckle thrill rides and a deviation from that might be offputting to some. I was talking to a friend of mine who didn't really like the movie, and he was telling me how he just "felt so much more excited" leaving the theater after the Dark Knight Trilogy movies and Inception. Interstellar is just such a different beast from those movies though.

Ultimately though, I think if all the fanboy pressure around Nolan starts to dissipate a bit this could be a good thing for his career, cause it was going to reach critical mass at one point or another. Though I do hope Interstellar manages to be successful and he is able to continue making non-franchise, large scale films for a long time to come.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm glad Nolan is making original blockbusters, no matter how I feel about the film after I see it, I am happy that anyone is trying to make original blockbusters.

 

[redfirebird2008]

I'm glad Nolan is making original blockbusters, no matter how I feel about the film after I see it, I am happy that anyone is trying to make original blockbusters.

I agree with you on this, but I'm also selfish. I love Memento and The Prestige. Wish we could get more small movies like that from him. Maybe sometime in the not so distant future.

 

[BatLobster]

redfirebird, I think at the very least you're going to really enjoy the first act of Interstellar. It's as intimate as anything Nolan's done.

I also want to go ahead and say that Matthew Mcconaughey as Cooper is probably the best lead performance in a Nolan film since Guy Pearce in Memento. Quite possibly better.

 

[redfirebird2008]

redfirebird, I think at the very least you're going to really enjoy the first act of Interstellar. It's as intimate as anything Nolan's done.

I also want to go ahead and say that Matthew Mcconaughey as Cooper is probably the best lead performance in a Nolan film since Guy Pearce in Memento. Quite possibly better.

I dunno, the main thing I'm excited to see is the visuals.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I agree with you on this, but I'm also selfish. I love Memento and The Prestige. Wish we could get more small movies like that from him. Maybe sometime in the not so distant future.

I think it's difficult for directors to go back to small films when they don't have to. Maybe he doesn't have that desire.

 

[Mysteryman]

The response to this film kinda reminds me of Prometheus in some ways. You have the insinuation from some fans that people who didn't like the film "didn't understand it." I ****ing hate that dismissal of other people's opinions of a film. I especially hated it because I thought Prometheus was a crap film and yet you had people insinuating that I was an idiot for holding that opinion. I've said that crap before and it's wrong when I say it and it's wrong when others say it as well.

I agree.
I hate that too.
I hope that does not happen with Interstellar.
But, I have real concerns that it will.

 

[Phallic]

One thing I don't understand is how these critics can claim that the science is wrong. I've seen more than a few who've claimed the ending to be "ridiculous" or "implausible," despite the fact that the science on the movie is quite grounded. Time is not this static thing that we perceieve it to be, but is actually possibly quite dynamic on a universal scale. As someone who has studied a bit of quantum mechanics as a part of my degree, I can confirm that **** gets real weird. Weirder than most people probably think.

Problems with the story, acting, pacing etc. are fair. I tend to ignore the reviews that critique the science aspect of the movie though. Unless one has a degree in theoretical physics or some other qualification, I question one's qualifications to question Thorne's or any other credited scientific theory.