Interstellar - Part 8

[Rocketman]

Saw it last night. Really a phenomenal movie unlike anything I've ever seen. Those last 40 minutes have never been attempted or done before (not since 2001 anyway), and it was one of the most surreal sequences possibly in film history. And just the ramifications of what that all means.

Spoiler

- The wormhole was put there by humans in the future, and the message was sent by Cooper,
- so humanity could find it and send Cooper through the wormhole,
- and have his daughter solve the gravity equation by Cooper sending the message,
- so humans in the future could place the wormhole for them,
- so humanity could find it and send Cooper through the wormhole, etc.

Spoiler

It's really an insane paradox, and technically the story doesn't even (or shouldn't) exist. The entire story relies on a self-fulfilling prophecy where they're really saving themselves. There almost isn't a dilemma, really. The wormhole can only be there because they put it there, so all they have to do is wait. The fact that the wormhole is there means that they have succeeded in the future.

Really profound, mind-twisting stuff. I'm floored.

What the hell could Nolan POSSIBLY do next? This is pretty much it. This is the whole shebang.

 

[Micromind]

This movie could be seen similar to the life of Pi, were The tiger, monkey, Zebra really on the boat ? or they were metaphors ?

What if -

Spoiler

Cooper was hallucinating all this ? He never communicated with Murp, the falling Books were not done by cooper but they were due to the gravitational anomalies caused by sudden appearance of a Black hole near Saturn?

Cooper just dreamt all this as he wanted to remember what Murp said to him about Ghosts.

The Gravity equation was all Murp's own work drawing some inspiration from random code she got from the watch gifted by her Dad.

Cooper survived the Black Hole as the humans who had solved the Gravity equation had saved him from the worm hole.

There is no role for love in the events that happened except that it was the driving factor for Cooper's family to find some solution.

 

[Rocketman]

The other thing that is hilarious to me is that I'm watching Inception right now, and it feels like such a small, cute little independent film compared to Interstellar, lol. Inception is basically small potatoes, and really, the scope of Inception is huge because of its concept, not because of anything you're seeing on screen. If you mute Inception, it really feels like a small film with a smaller budget than most big films. Interstellar, no joke, in terms of scale and just concept and execution, completely blows 95% of movies out of the water. Nitpicking Brand's love speech is so completely insignificant compared to the overall film.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Pretty much.

 

[craigdbfan]

I'm I the only one that really liked Brands speech?

 

[Tim_Riggins]

No, I love it, beautiful, sincere stuff.

 

[rashad]

Box Office Mojo ‏@boxofficemojo
'Interstellar' has already earned $9.7 million overseas. Top markets are South Korea ($1.8M) and Russia ($1.3M): http://bit.ly/13S4MFX

 

[Micromind]

I'm surprised by it's low production budget, thought it was at least a 200 mil dollar movie.

But yeah, Nolan's name is huge in overseas markets, it will do well there.

 

[Longshot777]

That's my theory too, on what is on the other side of a black hole.

I also feel the same way on what's on the other side of human death.

 

[Sysmatic]

I'm surprised by it's low production budget, thought it was at least a 200 mil dollar movie.

But yeah, Nolan's name is huge in overseas markets, it will do well there.

Yeah it was expected to be something like 200~ ish. But somehow Nolan always finishes his films below the budget

 

[The Chris]

The other thing that is hilarious to me is that I'm watching Inception right now, and it feels like such a small, cute little independent film compared to Interstellar, lol. Inception is basically small potatoes, and really, the scope of Inception is huge because of its concept, not because of anything you're seeing on screen. If you mute Inception, it really feels like a small film with a smaller budget than most big films. Interstellar, no joke, in terms of scale and just concept and execution, completely blows 95% of movies out of the water. Nitpicking Brand's love speech is so completely insignificant compared to the overall film.

I know right. I was thinking the same thing. It's just so grand both in ideas and scope. But that's the relationship between the two films right. Inception is all about going inward, going further and further inside, and Interstellar is the opposite. Going further and further out and expanding the unknown and your own horizons.

 

[BatLobster]

Found this amazing theory online

Fits perfectly

Spoiler

What if in the original timeline Cooper goes into the black hole and dies there. Murph never receives any message. They do not solve gravity. Plan A fails. Everyone on Earth dies. Brand (Anne Hathaway) is the last member of mankind still alive. On Edmunds' planet she grows the fertilized eggs they had brought with them on the Endurance. She succeeds with plan B. The new humans live on that planet. Eventually they become more technologically advanced than we were back on Earth, and at some point in the future they attain such a deep understanding of the universe that they evolve to live in a higher dimension, the bulk. There they perceive love physically, love has a tangible existence in this higher dimension. They perceive the love that linked humans back on Earth a long, long time ago. And then out of love they devise a way to allow these humans to keep living too, some of whom were their ancestors, their great-great-...-great-grand-parents. They perceive the strong love that linked Cooper and his daughter. They realize they can save the humans who lived on Earth by enabling Cooper to communicate with his daughter from inside that black hole, through the link that bound them together. Once Cooper succeeds they send him back near Saturn through a wormhole, to allow him to see his daughter one last time. Brand allowed the future humans to live, Cooper allowed the humans back on Earth to live. In the end Cooper leaves to reunite with Brand, in a sense reuniting humanity together: the future humans who couldn't have lived without Brand, and Earth's humans who couldn't have lived without Cooper. It was love that had brought Brand to Edmunds' planet and allowed future humans to live, and it was love that allowed Cooper to save Earth's humans

Wow...now that is a GREAT theory. I will be thinking about this next time I watch the movie, no doubt.

 

[MadVillainy]

THought this was pretty good. Definitely my least favorite Nolan film.

I thought it dragged a bit, but like a lot of Nolan films, I can't pick what they shouldve been cut out. So at least Nolan and co. were smart in thinking if it's gonna drag at least make it all important.

Lots of exposition but that's kinda good because I was so confused some of the time. Especially toward the end when [BLACKOUT]Cooper went through the black hole and was revealed to be the "ghost"[/BLACKOUT] I thought that whole bit was weird and I wish they came up with something better, but I can't think of a better of way for them to do it

Miscellaneous thoughts
-Loved the twists and turns in the story/script
-Was it just me or was this, low-key, one of the most depressing movies ever lol [BLACKOUT]the whole scene when it was revealed that Murph and Tom had grown up so much and Cooper missed all of it was so depressing or the very end when Murph was an old lady and Cooper left her to find Brandt really got to me[/BLACKOUT]
-The whole conflict of Casey Affleck's character [BLACKOUT]aka Cooper's son and adult Murph was stupid to me or at least the way the resolved it. All of the sudden he turns into this a**hole, gets violent, and its implied that he'll be violent upon returning from Murphy burning his crops. But then its all resolved so quickly.[/BLACKOUT] I didn't like that at all
-Really surprised they hired David Oyelowo for such a small role/cameo. I mean he's a really good actor and I wish he was in it more. I wish he was the 4th person to go on this mission

But all in all, a good movie. Visually great, great story, and it had good performances, and when it ramped up the suspense or "action" it really delivered. It's not for everyone, but I liked it. I'll for sure be watching it again. But I wont be running out to pre order the Blu Ray like I did with Nolan's other films. Not in my top 5 for the year so far, but still really good

7.5/10

 

[Travesty]

I just got out of it about 30 min ago, and I was really hoping to fall in love with this movie, but it has some of the same problems I had with TDKR. With that said, I like it a lot more than TDKR, but I feel it just has those common Nolan problems that he's had in his movies since TDK.

I'll probably come back and talk more, but I just got out and wanna eat. I did like it though, just not as much as I was hoping. If I had to give it a grade, I would probably put it at around a 7.5-8/10. Not bad, but definitely not great.

 

[MadVillainy]

I just got out of it about 30 min ago, and I was really hoping to fall in love with this movie, but it has some of the same problems I had with TDKR. With that said, I like it a lot more than TDKR, but I feel it just has those common Nolan problems that he's had in his movies since TDK.

I'll probably come back and talk more, but I just got out and wanna eat. I did like it though, just not as much as I was hoping. If I had to give it a grade, I would probably put it at around a 7.5-8/10. Not bad, but definitely not great.

Nowhere near bad for me, but like you said not great.


On a sidenote: I actually didnt watch any trailers or commercials past the 2nd trailer that was released and I actually like that. I tried to do the same thing with Inception but it didnt work. I actually liked not knowing what most scenes were going to look like.

 

[kvz5]

Finally saw it. I'd give it an 8/10 overall but 10/10 for ambition and scale. Might go up or down once I watch it again. The Prestige is safe as my favorite Nolan film.

It was kind of all over the place but you gotta love how ballsy Nolan is for daring to go there. The visuals/action were FANTASTIC. What an experience. Acting was great all around as well. Hathaway and Chastain, in particular, make the best out of flawed material. [BLACKOUT]Tars[/BLACKOUT] is the best thing ever since sliced bread. I was worried when [blackout]we saw in the trailers that he wasn't what I imagined/wanted based on the original script but it worked so well. [/blackout] LOOOOOOVE.

It suffered from some of the common things that Nolan films suffer from. It would've benefitted from cutting off some stuff/side stories IMO. I didn't care for the monologue. No fault of Anne's because she clearly tried her best to sell it but yeah... I was laughing on the inside because all I can think of is Nolan with his troll face on and saying: "Oh you hate my expositions? You hate that John Blake monologue about feeling it in your bones and stuff? You think I'm cold? Well, here's a monologue about love! Take that *****es!". I thought the score was a bit too overbearing. There were moments were all I wanted was to listen and digest the dialogue but the score was assaulting my eardrums. Some of the emotional moments felt manipulated but the ones that worked? They WORKED BIG TIME. Ah... the tears! Did I mention how great the visuals are?

This is definitely a film that sticks with you and I expect this to be discussed and debated on for years and years to come.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I don't think this is Nolan's best film, but this just might be his most important.

 

[Travesty]

On a sidenote: I actually didnt watch any trailers or commercials past the 2nd trailer that was released and I actually like that. I tried to do the same thing with Inception but it didnt work. I actually liked not knowing what most scenes were going to look like.

Same here, I only watched the teaser and the first trailer, and that was it.

Spoiler

I totally forgot Matt Damon was in this, so when he popped up, I was kinda surprised. But what I was totally shocked about, was that John Lithgow, Casey Affleck and Topher Grace were in this. I seriously had no clue.

 

[kvz5]

I don't think this is Nolan's best film, but this just might be his most important.

I would agree with this. It's a turning point for him. Whether it's for the better or the for the worse, I'm not sure yet.

 

[MadVillainy]

Same here, I only watched the teaser and the first trailer, and that was it.

Spoiler

I totally forgot Matt Damon was in this, so when he popped up, I was kinda surprised. But what I was totally shocked about, was that John Lithgow, Casey Affleck and Topher Grace were in this. I seriously had no clue.

Spoiler

I was wondering where he was. I wondered if he was a voice of one of the robots and I just didnt realize. But that was toward the beginning, but when he actually showed up I stopped thinking about him so it was a nice surprise

 

[Rowsdower!]

Question...

Spoiler

There was an article on Slate that was ripping apart the science in this movie and I just want to see if Interstellar was as off-base as this guy was acting like it was or if maybe he missed something. He pointed out that the planets Cooper and his team visit are orbiting the black hole, and if that was the case, none of them could sustain life because a black hole wouldn't act as a light or heat source. This seems accurate, however, perhaps he misinterpreted something. Were the planets actually orbiting the black hole or were they just near it and were instead orbiting a star?

 

[Tequilla]

This was an overwhelming experience. No doubt. A masterful visual-sensory experience A great film ? I have to see it again.

I kinda have a hard time to write anything about it. It's very different from most things , and especially, from Nolan. It has some of his trademarks but we are definitely in some other realm.

Yesterday i wrote in the sub-section of TDKR my Nolan rankings , and i really don't know where to put Interstellar.

This is not Inception (its better , but its not because of that). It's not audience-friendly. Im very much surprised hwo this is being promoted so heavily and to such a wide range. Not many directors in cinema's history would have this chance.

And yeah...2001. Impossible to escape the comparisons. This time he deserves. Not because the style is similar (they are very much different , Interstellar presents a huge scope always through a real lens, and an intimate story) , but both films share A LOT of stuff.

The best compliment i can give is , theaters were made for people to watch Interstellar's. Go see it. It deserves to be watched in a movie theater.

 

[SuperJediHero]

AWESOME movie, but question

Spoiler

Is going into a black hole, to become a ghost

theory possible?

So do you think this is a very possible scientific theory?

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

This is a phenomenal movie and probably the best so far of 2014 (haven't quite decided yet). The film is so reminiscent of Clarke/Kubrick's masterpiece back in '68, but it feels like a polished, timely version of that story. And makes me wonder why space seems so far away.

And while the film has its flaws that we could nitpick under a microscope, it is amazing and it's many things to me.

It's in the top 5 space movies ever.
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Gravity
3. Sunshine
4. Interstellar
5. Moon

It's in Nolan's top 5 most definitely.
1. The Dark Knight
2. Memento
3. Interstellar
4. Batman Begins
5. Inception

It's in both the top 3 McConaughey films and Anne Hathaway films (neither is something to shake a stick at).

Any way you slice it, it succeeds on all fronts and begs to be seen. I recommend it with every fiber of my being.

 

[Travesty]

I thought the score was a bit too overbearing. There were moments were all I wanted was to listen and digest the dialogue but the score was assaulting my eardrums.

That's actually my biggest gripe about this movie, which is something I feel Nolan really needs to work on big time. Inception and TDKR were notorious for this, but this one was even worse. Does he have his own sound engineer, or does he do all of levels himself? Either way, he really needs to learn to balance the score, and put it more in the background at times, especially when characters are talking.