The Dark Knight Is Nolan abusing his reputation?

[Jack Napier]

What's great about Nolan is that he served us a Batman movie that was faithful to the comics, all the while being totally original. We had never seen a Batman film like that. It worked astronomically well.
I've never really approved of the "IN NOLAN WE TRUST" crap, not because it's blind faith though. At this point, I'd let Nolan do what he wants with the series. When they were midway through postproduction on BB, I was skeptical of the batmobile. Won over. Skeptical of the batsuit. Won over. I don't approve of the "IN NOLAN WE TRUST" banner, because in a way, it's people's way of saying "I trust you to make the Batman movie I want to see. I want to see Bettany as the Joker, so Nolan will make it right. I want the Joker to kill off Rachel, I trust that Nolan will work that into the story." Let the man make his movie.
If this was '89, and you were all this involved with THAT Batman movie, every single one of you would be disappointed. What good would it do you to know the plot to that, that Joker kills Grissom, the Joker poisons people? Walk into the movie and be surprised, that's the magic of the experience!

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Admittedly most of what I see is the business end of the gun when it comes to Batfans. But my original argument stands.

For the apologists who are saying give Ledger a chance. It sounds alot like what a few of us were trying to say when Alba was cast.

It just sounds funny coming from the Batfans is all I'm saying. Especially since they would string me and some others up for saying the same thing in the past.

I'm just keeping an eye out. It amuses me.

No hard feelings. But I will be hiding in the corner and laughing. Heh.

That doesn't make much sense......

I mean, have you been to the Superman boards at all? Go there, and you'll see alot of the things your talking about.

Got to any of these boards. It happens to every character, every film....Bat-fans are no exception.

But, I guess Bat-fans kinda have a great rep on these boards.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Shall I dumb it down for you?

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, you could dumb down the crazy.....

 

[xwolverine2]

It's exactly like the Alba thing. Heath Ledger is a good actor. I admit. But he's a bit of a robot. Exactly the wrong thing you need for the Joker. Alba was ridiculed for being a body and not right for the part.

Everyone wanted McAdams or Theron and got Alba. Everyone wanted Bettany or Hulme and got something they were NOT expecting. An android.

THERON IS AN ANDROID!!!

LOL...please keep posting....you make me laugh

 

[Franklin Richards]

A while back...

Joe FFfan : We should give Alba a chance.
LouBatfan : You are an idiot!

Now...

LouBatfan : We should give Ledger a chance.
JoeFFfan : WTF?


How's that?

 

[Franklin Richards]

THERON IS AN ANDROID!!!

LOL...please keep posting....you make me laugh

Didn't Theron get an Oscar?

Doesn't being nominated or getting an Oscar immediately make you a good actor? That's what I keep hearing about Ledger.

 

[xwolverine2]

When they were midway through postproduction on BB, I was skeptical of the batmobile. Won over. Skeptical of the batsuit. Won over. I don't approve of the "IN NOLAN WE TRUST" banner, because in a way, it's people's way of saying "I trust you to make the Batman movie I want to see. I want to see Bettany as the Joker, so Nolan will make it right. I want the Joker to kill off Rachel, I trust that Nolan will work that into the story." Let the man make his movie.

im not sure i see your position in the situation....


i loved the batmobile/suit/bale at first sight......in production i saw nothin but gold.

now heath comes along

 

[xwolverine2]

Didn't Theron get an Oscar?

Doesn't being nominated or getting an Oscar immediately make you a good actor? That's what I keep hearing about Ledger.

THATS BULL****!!..... uma thurman got screwed.that was the day i completely ended whatever trust i had with the oscars.

oscars mean ****!!....

and please......dont make me say why heath won an oscar

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

So......you got it out for Bat-fans b/c a Bat-fan offended you?

That's kinda petty, dude.

And, ONE fan doesn't stand for MILLIONS. I think most REAL Bat-fans were too focused and obsessed with Batman Begins to even care about what was going on with FF.

Seriously......c'mon, you gotta get past that stuff. I mean, that EXACT convo has happened in EVERY board when a cast was made. Superman boards are a clear cut of it.

Oh, and...what the ****? Why you gotta name the Bat-fan Lou? FF fans get a good name like Joe....I mean, what about a good 'ol american name like Steve....or Jack......or Bob?

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Didn't Theron get an Oscar?

Doesn't being nominated or getting an Oscar immediately make you a good actor? That's what I keep hearing about Ledger.

Well, have you seen the movie? I mean.....unless he bought the nomination....

And Theron did a good job in MONSTER, did she not?

 

[Franklin Richards]

Heh heh. Just yankin' your chain.

And he lost. Was just nominated. Hoffman won.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

JUST nominated?

Well....I think it's still worth mentioning, since it's something most ads, commericals, and hype would lean on.......I mean, it does count for something.

 

[xwolverine2]

So......you got it out for Bat-fans b/c a Bat-fan offended you?

if by batman fan you mean:

people who for a year now have a BULLETPROOF idea of how they want joker to be........"BETTANY!!...ECCELSON(?)!!....robin!! "......

then......-HEATH IS JOKER-

"oh.......this is awesome!!".....
like where they brainwashed by WB or something?

......:then yes

 

[Franklin Richards]

So......you got it out for Bat-fans b/c a Bat-fan offended you?

Not all Batfans. Just the hypocrites.

That's kinda petty, dude.

Hell yeah.

And, ONE fan doesn't stand for MILLIONS. I think most REAL Bat-fans were too focused and obsessed with Batman Begins to even care about what was going on with FF.

Oh no. They had plenty of time to come over and rag FF.

Seriously......c'mon, you gotta get past that stuff. I mean, that EXACT convo has happened in EVERY board when a cast was made. Superman boards are a clear cut of it.

That's why I'm pointing out the hypocrisy. It fills the space between.

Oh, and...what the ****? Why you gotta name the Bat-fan Lou? FF fans get a good name like Joe....I mean, what about a good 'ol american name like Steve....or Jack......or Bob?

I like Lou!!!

 

[xwolverine2]

JUST nominated?

Well....I think it's still worth mentioning, since it's something most ads, commericals, and hype would lean on.......I mean, it does count for something.

the average audience (******S) dont know that the oscars are all bull****

 

[Franklin Richards]

Well, have you seen the movie? I mean.....unless he bought the nomination....

And Theron did a good job in MONSTER, did she not?

I liked both their performances in both movies. I just think Ledger is a wrong fit for Joker.

But I could be wrong. I haven't seen him play such an animated character in the past.

 

[xwolverine2]

I just think Ledger is a wrong fit for Joker.

But I could be wrong. I haven't seen him play such an animated character in the past.

xwolverine2 agrees.


i bet you if/when a few weeks ago someone would mention that they would like heath to play joker...people would be like "OMGZ HELL NO!...thank god nolan doesnt listen to your crazy ass".

sad

 

[Parker]

the average audience (******S) dont know that the oscars are all bull****

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

if by batman fan you mean:

people who for a year now have a BULLETPROOF idea of how they want joker to be........"BETTANY!!...ECCELSON(?)!!....robin!! "......

then......-HEATH IS JOKER-

"oh.......this is awesome!!".....
like where they brainwashed by WB or something?

......:then yes

Well, I actually wanted Brody.....but, I think it's a good casting choice. Not my first choice, but it's a good choice. I mean....trust me, if it were a bad one.....this entire board would shake like the mighty hell of a thousand storms.

And, this kinda kicks down what Richards was saying, doesn't it? I mean....he was saying that this was getting the same reaction as the Alba thing....so....wtf?

Oh, and US trusting Chris Nolan is part of what's going on here. We TRUST his judgement and we TRUST his direction. That's why nobody's killing themselves over this.

Yet, atleast. But there's been a few reported missing....

Not all Batfans. Just the hypocrites.[/QU

OTE]

Okay.

Hell yeah.

Well, that's good.

Oh no. They had plenty of time to come over and rag FF

LOL..........Okay......

That's why I'm pointing out the hypocrisy. It fills the space between.

And...so, what? Nothing wrong with that.......I guess.......

I like Lou!!!

Change it to Steve, and less people might be angry.

the average audience (******S) dont know that the oscars are all bull****

Good for them.

I liked both their performances in both movies. I just think Ledger is a wrong fit for Joker.

But I could be wrong. I haven't seen him play such an animated character in the past.

Well, then that would suggest that he's got quite some acting to do....heh?

Nolan cast him, and considering how he NAILED every character down to they're comic counterparts....it's hard to doubt the man this time out.

What do you know about the Joker?B]

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

xwolverine2 agrees.


i bet you if/when a few weeks ago someone would mention that they would like heath to play joker...people would be like "OMGZ HELL NO!...thank god nolan doesnt listen to your crazy ass".

sad

Don't cry.....please, God all mighty....don't cry....

 

[Raiden]

It's exactly like the Alba thing. Heath Ledger is a good actor. I admit. But he's a bit of a robot. Exactly the wrong thing you need for the Joker. Alba was ridiculed for being a body and not right for the part.

Everyone wanted McAdams or Theron and got Alba. Everyone wanted Bettany or Hulme and got something they were NOT expecting. An android.

And when some posters over at the FF Boards thought they would give Alba a chance, they were ridiculed by alot of Batfans for being "unfaithful" to the source material. Now I see Batfans defending the unlikely choice of Ledger.

I think the comparison holds some weight.

Ledger, an android? Maybe you should check some of the movies he did, like The Patriot, Brothers Grimm, and Ten Things I Hate About You.

Ledger is far from being an android.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, maybe he was sent from the future to kill John Connor......

 

[xwolverine2]

Brothers Grimm,

HELL NO!!!

Don't cry.....please, God all mighty....don't cry....

I WASTED MY MONEY ON Brothers Grimm!!

-cries-

 

[CConn]

A while back...

Joe FFfan : We should give Alba a chance.
LouBatfan : You are an idiot!

Now...

LouBatfan : We should give Ledger a chance.
JoeFFfan : WTF?


How's that?

LouBatfan: 1
JoeFFfan: 0