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Superman Returns Is the general audience being scared off by a more artsy presentation?

Showtime029 said:
It's called debating...it's refereshing to debate the reaction of the general public. It's better than debating the reaction of the incredibly nerdy Superman fans.


lol "refreshing debate." yeah, this is some Superman alumni thinktank stuff right here. :up: and we're definitely discussing the reaction of "the general public" and not at all the overreactions of incredibly nerdy Superman fans in this here topic.
 
Monstera said:
lol "refreshing debate." yeah, this is some Superman alumni thinktank stuff right here. :up: and we're definitely discussing the reaction of "the general public" and not at all the overreactions of incredibly nerdy Superman fans in this here topic.

That is "supposed" to be the theme of the thread...not my fault if nerdy Superman fans are dousing that proposed theme.
 
dark_b said:
what do you think people thought about batman begins in december?????'
think about it.:o


huh? BB was released in June :confused:

it was Batman Returns that was released during Christmas time.

and last i know, everybody was fine with that.
 
Steelsheen said:
huh? BB was released in June :confused:

it was Batman Returns that was released during Christmas time.

and last i know, everybody was fine with that.

I think db means that it is early and there was also backlash during early production of Batman Begins. He'd have to verify though.
 
yeah, this is some Superman alumni thinktank stuff right here.

That was funny :)

Monstera's got a point--I've never really understood why fans don't simply worry about whether the movie has to work for them--they have to try and predict why and how the movie will or will not work for everyone else. When I watch a movie, I don't give a CRAP if anyone else is really digging it or not. There's plenty of movies that made 20 mil or less at the box office in my collection. But it doesn't mean I didn't like mine any less, and I'm not concerned with why they didn't.
 
Fatboy Roberts said:
That was funny :)

Monstera's got a point--I've never really understood why fans don't simply worry about whether the movie has to work for them--they have to try and predict why and how the movie will or will not work for everyone else. When I watch a movie, I don't give a CRAP if anyone else is really digging it or not. There's plenty of movies that made 20 mil or less at the box office in my collection. But it doesn't mean I didn't like mine any less, and I'm not concerned with why they didn't.

I wouldn't say that I am concerned about how they will feel about the movie I am only curious as to the reaction, almost like an experiment. I always go into a movie and come out with my own reaction. I don't pay attention to the critics reaction or the general audiences reaction when contemplating my own. I just like to see and hear different viewpoints other than my own from a variety of sources.
 
I getcha, but at the same time, like I said to JC--the premise is flawed. I don't think the general audience considers the Superman shots from the trailer to be especially "arty" in the first place. It's a SUPERMAN movie. And if they do? Meh. I find this generally ends up concerning people who treat films like sports teams in the first place, and I'm not one of those--using my film as a stick to beat up you and your film, bragging about box office reciepts as if I had a hand in making the movie, real foam-finger stuff. I'd rather just dig the movie on it's own merits and be happy with that if it's good.
 
Steelsheen said:
huh? BB was released in June :confused:

it was Batman Returns that was released during Christmas time.

and last i know, everybody was fine with that.
my bad. read showtimes post.

sorry :up:
 
i agree with fatboy. i like how he thinks. some of you really have problems.

sorry but this is how it is.
 
Fatboy Roberts said:
I getcha, but at the same time, like I said to JC--the premise is flawed. I don't think the general audience considers the Superman shots from the trailer to be especially "arty" in the first place. It's a SUPERMAN movie. And if they do? Meh. I find this generally ends up concerning people who treat films like sports teams in the first place, and I'm not one of those--using my film as a stick to beat up you and your film, bragging about box office reciepts as if I had a hand in making the movie, real foam-finger stuff. I'd rather just dig the movie on it's own merits and be happy with that if it's good.

Thats the problem....everything is based on the bottom line. There are so many movies that make huge money that are flawed from all angles. I enjoy so many of those "little" movies, and most of them are my favorites.
 
Until trailers start appearing on TV, the general public will not consider seeing this film.
 
true, public opinion can change drastically in the next 6 1/2 months.
 
were people scared of batman?


c'mon,this is no sky captain.
 
Excel said:
c'mon,this is no sky captain.
That's funny, because i've often heard people on this board refer to this movie's style as Sky Captain-like.
 
Excel said:
were people scared of batman?


c'mon,this is no sky captain.
nice reminder in your sig.

however...

people are forgetful. :D
 
The problem with the teaser is not the 'artsy' feels to it, rather that people may took the movie as just another re telling of Superman origin story.

Lois and Clark...Smallville.It has been done before.The teaser didn't really show us much of anything about the movie,it didn't show people that this is going to be a different Superman movie.

Even BB teaser showed us that it's going to be a different Batman movie than all the previous ones.That got people excited.

But hey...hopefully the full trailer will turn things around.
 
kakashi said:
The problem with the teaser is not the 'artsy' feels to it, rather that people may took the movie as just another re telling of Superman origin story.

Lois and Clark...Smallville.It has been done before.The teaser didn't really show us much of anything about the movie,it didn't show people that this is going to be a different Superman movie.

Even BB teaser showed us that it's going to be a different Batman movie than all the previous ones.That got people excited.

But hey...hopefully the full trailer will turn things around.
in januar comes another teaser online. than we have a superbowl trailer and two theatrical trailers.

its december :up::)
 
I dont think they will be scared off.

Audiences are more intelligent than studios give them credit for (and its shown recently with movies like Sin City)

As long as its not all style and no story it will be fine. It reminds me of Batman 89 in a way another very artsy production and that done fantastic box office
 
Fatboy Roberts said:
That was funny :)

Monstera's got a point--I've never really understood why fans don't simply worry about whether the movie has to work for them--they have to try and predict why and how the movie will or will not work for everyone else. When I watch a movie, I don't give a CRAP if anyone else is really digging it or not. There's plenty of movies that made 20 mil or less at the box office in my collection. But it doesn't mean I didn't like mine any less, and I'm not concerned with why they didn't.

I think the main reason why everybody here is concerned about box office take and stuff can be expressed in two words: sequel potential. If people really like a movie, and it gets big box office, then sequels are assured, which is what most fans want.
 
I'd rather have a great Superman film that stands a lone without future sequels than a below average popcorn flick that spawns yawnfest sequels... MEH
 
There is a good chance it'll happen. The general public will quite possibly react badly to it. It is a decent possibility. Moreso of one than many here want to accept. Especially with a just as if not more so anticipated, better timed, better momentum, summer block buster that did not take an artsy approach coming out a week after SR.
 
If this movie is really good,

For fans this movie will be great.

For haters it will be bad.

For kids it will be just cool.

For teenagers it will be good.

For grown people it will be also good.
 
Matt said:
There is a good chance it'll happen. The general public will quite possibly react badly to it. It is a decent possibility. Moreso of one than many here want to accept. Especially with a just as if not more so anticipated, better timed, better momentum, summer block buster that did not take an artsy approach coming out a week after SR.

You are hater, right?

You like to bash SR, so you are hater.

Thats all what I think about you.
 
\S/JcDc\S/ said:
I'd rather have a great Superman film that stands a lone without future sequels than a below average popcorn flick that spawns yawnfest sequels... MEH
i like that post. while a lot of fans are now scared if this movie will make enough money for the sequels i think about this movie first. if this movie is so good than the sequels will come.
 
Matt said:
There is a good chance it'll happen. The general public will quite possibly react badly to it. It is a decent possibility. Moreso of one than many here want to accept. Especially with a just as if not more so anticipated, better timed, better momentum, summer block buster that did not take an artsy approach coming out a week after SR.

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