Guardians of the Galaxy James gunn fired!!! - Part 1

[DarthSkywalker]

No, keeping it in the public eye makes it worse for Disney, which puts more pressure on them to rehire him. At least that was the sound strategy last week, but Disney didn't budge. He/the cast lost. Now he is burning a bridge. You're right, it won't get Gunn back. But after last week's stunt didn't apparently move the needle, I think he's accepted that's the case. My guess is Feige or someone at Marvel said they're already talking to replacements, so he went out and said this on Twitter.

This is possible. I do wonder if Bautista has stepped it up because they were told a hard no on him returning as director, which is why he specifically brought up the script this time. The interview was clearly before the tweets.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

From April in an interview on 106.7 The Fan:



He also claims he was talking to them about being Ronda Rousey's partner at Wrestlemania, but they backstabbed him by choosing Kurt Angle instead and then cut off all contact with him.

That's hilarious.

 

[Zarex]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/slideshow...g-sex-with-students.html#/slide/loryn-barclay


^ There's just 22 female teachers that were either charged or convicted in 2017 of having relations with underage male students. For reference there were 20 unarmed black people fatally shot by police that same year.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2017/?noredirect=on



What causes one to become a media frenzy, and the other to be largely ignored? Where are all the movements to speak out on these boys behalf? Why aren't any of these sexual abuse activists making this a regular talking point?

Well, both are issues requiring our attention. But the chances of making a full recovery and going on to lead a healthy, productive life are much slimmer for the dead black folks than the young men living in a Van Halen video.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Someone please tell James Gunn to call Batista and advise him not to ruin his career over this.

I think ultimately it is not about Gunn, but about Roseanne and the 46% to 48% popular vote in the last US elections. Those who will face career problems are going to be those on the wrong side of that political divide.

That is why I doubt that any director will take over Guardians and Feige faces his biggest challenge as the entire MCU going forward can fall by his doing the wrong thing in this blacklisting

 

[jmc]

In that case, I could actually see Disney just cancelling GOTG 3 and moving forward with their other properties instead. That would mean the last appearance of the cast would be IW part 2.

If the news of Pirates 6 being developed are true then they’ve got another moral dilemma on thier hands to come.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If the news of Pirates 6 being developed are true then they’ve got another moral dilemma on thier hands to come.

Unless Jack doesn't come back. And the more Depp opens his mouth, the worse it gets.

 

[Marvolo]

Has Depp done something controversial recently? Or are yall talking about him getting mad and breaking things and his ex trying to get him into trouble? AFAIK the only thing Disney needs to worry about is Depp not being drunk at work. Tho that situation may not be as bad as the rumors claimed.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Has Depp done something controversial recently? Or are yall talking about him getting mad and breaking things and his ex trying to get him into trouble? AFAIK the only thing Disney needs to worry about is Depp not being drunk at work. Tho that situation may not be as bad as the rumors claimed.

We are talking about the fact that he abused his wife, which was confirmed by texts between Heard and I believe Depp's manager. He has been doing interviews recently. They have not been helping his arguments. Especially as he might have broken the bit about not talking about the situation, and thus Heard could start talking about what he did.

 

[Frodo]

If the news of Pirates 6 being developed are true then they’ve got another moral dilemma on thier hands to come.

Which means Depp could conceivable go as well and they could attempt to make Pirates 6 without him.

Not saying Disney will do that , but they aren't so at the mercy of particular actors that they bend to those actors will and needs over Disney's own self interests.

 

[jmc]

Which means Depp could conceivable go as well and they could attempt to make Pirates 6 without him.

Not saying Disney will do that , but they aren't so at the mercy of particular actors that they bend to those actors will and needs over Disney's own self interests.

It matters when the company is reliant on franchises to bring in revenue. The thing about Pirates and Guardians is that the actors in the roles are the selling point, without them the franchises are worthless.

 

[Spider-Fan]

We don’t know what the other Guardians are thinking. If they feel the same way as Bautista then Vol. 3 is in all sorts of trouble.

Agreed. Hell, even if they're on the fence on whether to quit or not, they may even have old Dave here in their ear trying to convince them. We'll see how this plays out. This possibly could lead to no GotG3 if the rest of the cast side with Dave or are swayed by him.

 

[Frodo]

It matters when the company is reliant on franchises to bring in revenue. The thing about Pirates and Guardians is that the actors in the roles are the selling point, without them the franchises are worthless.

Perhaps, but Disney doesn't have to make P6 and they certainly don't have to make GOTG 3.

I see your point , but the leverage is still on Disney's side regardless of what the actors want. Between all their other properties , they can afford moving beyond Pirates and Guardians.

The actors in both cases don't have enough clout to force Disney to bend to their will. They can give them headaches grant you but they're unlikely to make them change.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

This could get ugly honestly when you really think about it Guardians 2 was kind of an ending to questions that were brought up in guardians 1 I'd be happier at this point if there was no vol.3 to be honest.

Disney ruined their own franchise imo and gave a huge a blow to the cream of their crop marvel studios they meant well but it's backfiring because this is starting to get public. I'm wondering how many conversations are being had with agents atm.

Edit: respect to Bautista for risking getting blacklisted to protect a friend. I do second sentiments that James should tell Bautista to chill.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Oh, I think this is going to get worse. A lot worse.

 

[terry78]

If others in the MCU start to follow suit, yeah it could get bad. I know a few of them have tried to remain neutral, but you know how it goes if your peers start to look at you.

 

[jmc]

Perhaps, but Disney doesn't have to make P6 and they certainly don't have to make GOTG 3.

I see your point , but the leverage is still on Disney's side regardless of what the actors want. Between all their other properties , they can afford moving beyond Pirates and Guardians.

The actors in both cases don't have enough clout to force Disney to bend to their will. They can give them headaches grant you but they're unlikely to make them change.

But this is the problem Disney are now facing. They're so reliant on these brands, and by association these actors who are the face of the brands, to maintain the cash flows. If they were creating new content all the time losing Guardians or Pirates wouldn't be an issue, but they're not, they are relying on existing brands to get them through. The problem with that is when the brands starts to turn bad. We're already seeing it with Star Wars. Disney, through lack of innovation, have boxed themselves in here.

 

[Frodo]

Oh, I think this is going to get worse. A lot worse.

I wouldn't have thought so 24 hours ago , but yeah , it could.

Dave Bautista clearly isn't backing down and you have an uber powerful studio gobbling up other studios which is becoming less and less willing to play nice.

We'll have to see if the other actors start issuing threats as well or if they'll let Bautista ride that horse alone.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I wouldn't have thought so 24 hours ago , but yeah , it could.

Dave Bautista clearly isn't backing down and you have an uber powerful studio gobbling up other studios which is becoming less and less willing to play nice.

We'll have to see if the other actors start issuing threats as well or if they'll let Bautista ride that horse alone.

My bet is he is hounding Chris Pratt with phone calls. Right this minute, LOL!

 

[jmc]

My bet is he is hounding Chris Pratt with phone calls. Right this minute, LOL!

I seriously doubt he's doing that. Bautista has been pretty independent about this whole thing. Whether the others joins him is the next question. Interesting times ahead.

 

[Doug_Moore]

Batista's trying to get blacklisted from Hollywood, lol. What a meathead.

 

[Frodo]

But this is the problem Disney are now facing. They're so reliant on these brands, and by association these actors who are the face of the brands, to maintain the cash flows. If they were creating new content all the time losing Guardians or Pirates wouldn't be an issue, but they're not, they are relying on existing brands to get them through. The problem with that is when the brands starts to turn bad. We're already seeing it with Star Wars. Disney, through lack of innovation, have boxed themselves in here.

I don't think the problem is as big as you think it is .

Even though I classically disagree with how they're handling SW, its mostly diehard sw fans who've voiced the most discontent about their SW as it is with the Gunn situation.

Their brands really aren't turning bad in the eyes of the GA, and in the end , that's really what they care about. Now if the GA starts to reject the brand then its a problem , but for now, the vast majority of complaints about Disney and their brands have been sw and Marvel fanboys who follow this stuff as opposed to the average joe and jane who go to these films for a good time.

I will say on a side note, I find it a bit ironic that a lot of those who were praising Disney for the recent SW films and bashed fans who disagreed with how they've been handled, now seem to consider Disney the bad guys because of what they did with Gunn.

 

[superion]

I think ultimately it is not about Gunn, but about Roseanne and the 46% to 48% popular vote in the last US elections. Those who will face career problems are going to be those on the wrong side of that political divide.

That is why I doubt that any director will take over Guardians and Feige faces his biggest challenge as the entire MCU going forward can fall by his doing the wrong thing in this blacklisting

Disney was stupid. They should have kept Gunn and explained the difference between the Rosanne situation and this. Disney knew about both Gunn's and Rosanne's twitter history when they hired them.

But where Gunn has behaved professionally since Disney hired him Rosanne continued to act like a wacko when in their employ. I don't think much of that 46% to 48% wanted Gunn to be fired over this either.

 

[Marvel]

Anyone defending a moronic scumbag like James Gunn has serious issues themselves.

Maybe it's time to flush the Guardians completely? Bye Bye Davey Bautista?

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

In the grand scheme of things, this won’t be a major problem. It’ll suck for GOTG/Gunn apologists but that’s about it.

I’m not mad at Disney for protecting their brand and not caving into talk from people who support a man who made those kind of repulsive thoughts public. Only people the cast of this franchise is hurting is themselves if they walk with Bautista, because Disney surely can replace them just as they created them. It’s one thing to support your friends and such, but to the detriment of how you make your livelihood? And for the things he’s fantasizing about small children?

Nah bro.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Anyone defending a moronic scumbag like James Gunn has serious issues themselves.

Maybe it's time to flush the Guardians completely? Bye Bye Davey Bautista?

Why would they flush the Guardians completely? Just over Drax. He was hardly essential to the films. And if they still wanted to use him, they could recast like they did when Ed Norton and Terrence Howard quit. Most recently when they replaced Hugo Weaving with Ross Marquand as The Red Skull.