The Amazing Spider-Man Jamie Foxx IS Electro

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You really didn't understand my post then.

I said it should be a NOD to the Man-Spider where Peter only believes he's becoming stronger and faster because the spider is taking over, but it never truly does. Peter will only become stronger and faster because he has matured into his powers, but the thought and fear of the spider taking over should be a storyline.

Maybe he is thinking what happened to Doctor Connors is happening to him but slower
 
I would love to see Spidey get stronger in the next film to show he has matured with his powers, I feel almost like this is a given and necessary to the story.
 
Maybe he is thinking what happened to Doctor Connors is happening to him but slower

Bingo. That's the point. Connors used a serum, but Peter was only bitten and bitten once, but even though there's a difference on what happened with Connors and Peter, the idea of cross-species is still there, so Peter could be fearful of what could happen to him.
 
Bingo. That's the point. Connors used a serum, but Peter was only bitten and bitten once, but even though there's a difference on what happened with Connors and Peter, the idea of cross-species is still there, so Peter could be fearful of what could happen to him.

I like this idea.
 
You really didn't understand my post then.

I said it should be a NOD to the Man-Spider where Peter only believes he's becoming stronger and faster because the spider is taking over, but it never truly does. Peter will only become stronger and faster because he has matured into his powers, but the thought and fear of the spider taking over should be a storyline.
Oohkay then, this idea is good
I hope he doesn't try to cure it
 
Wait, wait, wait....what? Superman Returns still almost made double its budget($70 million shy), so don't make it seem like SR did THAT bad. It made over its budget at least.
Movies like F4 more than tripled its budger,without being supposedly 'popular'

I have no clue what went wrong with First Class, but reboots have become far more popular and it showed with TAS-M as well with Casino Royale and Star Trek. SR being terrible won't do anything to mess up Man of Steel as fans of Superman have been longing for a great Supes film since Superman II.
Keep telling yourself that but its a fact that reboots dont fare well in the comic book world,the first movie I mean
Xmen:first class earned even lesser than Orgin:Wolverine despite being an infinitely better movie
Ditto with Batman Begins and TASM
I am not saying MOS will earn lesser than SR but it'll definitely hurt its sales

I'm not overestimating anything, nor being overconfident. Just being confident over another CBM and not being biased just because it's not my favorite superhero as you usually are when it's not Spider-Man.
800M is being overconfident

At least I said Man of Steel most likely has a huge fanbase considering its got the Hype more excited than any other CBM next year...but you're saying it's FACT that Iron Man 3 is already the most anticipated film because YouTube has more views on one trailer than the other? Hah.

And thats a fact unlike you 'most likely' assumptions
A sample size of 200 vs 50Million,it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out which is more accurate

Well, I do when they feel like a C-rated CBM.
And Snyder's last movie was what,F rated?
And Watchmen?

This has nothing to do with you thinking Iron Man 3 isn't anticipated after The Avengers. Come to a stall on some point so you try to switch things up?
That was my reply to you asking what has TASM done to create a hype for TASM2
I simply said it did a better work than IM2

Kinda sucks when you have nothing else to say to be "cool", huh? :cwink:
I never really did give a **** about how long it stayed #1
It showed admirable legs and crossed 750M
Best earning reboot ever

Not putting any words in your mouth as you HAVE said it's awful that Nolan's name is plastered everywhere since Snyder's name alone wouldn't be able to attract fans.
You are free to show me where

Although kinda hilarious because it'll feel like Webb did run out of options rather than trolling fanboys from the beginning.
The fanboys have mostly already assumed its Norman,so its not really trolling
It would be trolling if he turns out to be someone else

Only $9 million off and not that big of a deal.
I would call it a big deal considering its high budget
 
So numbers don't lie? Then I suppose The Avengers was not the first or second anticipated CBM of the three(TA, TDKR, TAS-M)?

The Dark Knight Rises - 30 million

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GokKUqLcvD8

The Amazing Spider-Man - 19 million

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atCfTRMyjGU

The Avengers - 18 million
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOrNdBpGMv8


And as for the Hype!, I am only suggesting that Man of Steel does have a fanbase and you're also kidding yourself if the general audience are not pleased to be seeing Superman on the big screen as he's one of the major guys that everyone knows.

Use official trailer,One uploded by the official ID

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPoHPNeU9fc
The Avengers-38Million

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8evyE9TuYk
Dark Knight Rises-26Million

SonyPictures took a long time to upload the 3rd trailer themselves,hence the clevertv one got the most views
Amazing Spider-Man-19Million
 
Not drastic indeed.

Numbers on YouTube does not matter as much it didn't matter with the big three CBMs this summer.

It did matter mate

The ratio of number of views on the 3rd trailer is almost the same as that of amount of money they made

38:26:19 = 2:1.36:1
1511:1080:752= 2:1.43:1

There you go :D
 
If we see Peter getting even faster and stronger, I'd love to have a scene where he just lets his Spider-sense take over. Like Electro's electricity is all over the place and Peter has a hard time to get to him, maybe even have him bruised and battered at this point, so we can have a damaged mask and see one of his eyes.

So instead of focusing on where the Electricity is, he just closes his eyes and lets instinct take over. Bobbing, weaving and dodging all of Electro's attacks, until they are standing face to face. Then Peter's eyes open, their eyes connect for a second and BAM!, a fist straight into Electro's face.

Whoa that would be badass!

This would be a great scene. Something slo-mo of Spidey darting through electricity with his eyes closed and that spider-sense sound from the first movie and that being the only noise during the scene until he knocks Electro off his feet.



You really didn't understand my post then.

I said it should be a NOD to the Man-Spider where Peter only believes he's becoming stronger and faster because the spider is taking over, but it never truly does. Peter will only become stronger and faster because he has matured into his powers, but the thought and fear of the spider taking over should be a storyline.

I love this idea very much! Now it would even feel a bit weird not to include it at some point.
 
I don't know. Spider-man is not that fast, despite his amazing spider-sense. He's not the Flash and he shouldn't be able to dodge shooting bolts of electricity as if he's Neo from The Matrix or something.

We're talking about Spider-Man here, the guy who dodges gunfire. Not in a Neo way, but his reflexes and Spider-sense that tells him which direction the attacks are coming from, let him easily avoid their path. And while Electro is the master of electricity, he doesn't really have lightning reflexes. He still has human limitations and nowhere near the reflexes of Spider-Man. So whenever he's pointing at Spidey, ready for a blast of electricity, his reflexes and spider-sense should allow him to avoid his attacks easily.
 
I would love to see Spidey get stronger in the next film to show he has matured with his powers, I feel almost like this is a given and necessary to the story.
"Peter, in the next movie, is going to be a virtuoso. Spider-Man, from the outset, is a pro. He's an expert, and he's having a blast, and he is just electrifying in terms of his abilities as Spider-Man. That's going to be really fun. I'm really looking forward to a lot of those sequences."

-Marc Webb

http://www.etonline.com/movies/126549_Spider_Man_Sequel_Secrets_Hidden_in_Blu_ray/index.html
 
Electrifying. Har har.
 
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Movies like F4 more than tripled its budger,without being supposedly 'popular'

People like their special effects?

Keep telling yourself that but its a fact that reboots dont fare well in the comic book world,the first movie I mean
Xmen:first class earned even lesser than Orgin:Wolverine despite being an infinitely better movie
Ditto with Batman Begins and TASM
I am not saying MOS will earn lesser than SR but it'll definitely hurt its sales

Reboots have only gotten stronger and stronger though with CBM fans. MOS will only get better from even TAS-M's numbers.

800M is being overconfident

That was being overconfident with TAS-M.

And thats a fact unlike you 'most likely' assumptions
A sample size of 200 vs 50Million,it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out which is more accurate

So I assume The Dark Knight Rises was the most anticipated film of 2012 by looking at YouTube's numbers?

And Snyder's last movie was what,F rated?
And Watchmen?

Your point? Directors can't become better?

That was my reply to you asking what has TASM done to create a hype for TASM2
I simply said it did a better work than IM2

You also said Avengers wouldn't hype Iron Man 3 when in fact it would.

I never really did give a **** about how long it stayed #1
It showed admirable legs and crossed 750M
Best earning reboot ever

It can have that title, because it's simply not the best reboot ever :cwink:

You are free to show me where

Yah, I'm going to go through our countless discussions. I at least know what you said.

The fanboys have mostly already assumed its Norman,so its not really trolling
It would be trolling if he turns out to be someone else

The fanboys are arguing over who it could be already. How are most of them assuming it's Norman?

And it wouldn't be trolling if it's someone else since Webb has even said it's not Norman. You don't know what trolling is as well as plot hole now :funny:

I would call it a big deal considering its high budget

Well it's not a big deal. A big deal would be $90 million off, not $9.

Use official trailer,One uploded by the official ID

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPoHPNeU9fc
The Avengers-38Million

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8evyE9TuYk
Dark Knight Rises-26Million

SonyPictures took a long time to upload the 3rd trailer themselves,hence the clevertv one got the most views
Amazing Spider-Man-19Million

You're using the third trailers for those three when you're comparing the first trailers of Iron Man 3 and Man of Steel :huh:

It did matter mate

The ratio of number of views on the 3rd trailer is almost the same as that of amount of money they made

38:26:19 = 2:1.36:1
1511:1080:752= 2:1.43:1

There you go :D

Lol. Again, you're now bringing up the third trailers and not the first trailers as was the main point with IM3 and MOS.

I love this idea very much! Now it would even feel a bit weird not to include it at some point.

I should really write the scripts, lol.
 
One mention of me thinking Man of Steel will be great next summer and everything goes to Hell :funny:

Suits you right for voicing your opinion and being hopeful for one of the most highly-anticipated superhero movies next year :argh:
:oldrazz:


All these *****y complaints, all the revulsion some of you have for this movie, is not only laughable to me, but puerile and maybe even schizophrenic. I mean Webb answered everyone's main concern that we needed a Spider-Man who quips and wisecracks.

*POOF* Wish granted!

We need Gwen Stacy to be Pete's first love interest.

*POOF* Wish fulfilled!

I could go on and on and on.

My only complaint with the movie was I wasn't a big fan of the gloves and shoes, but when I watched the film closer it made sense: If WE, the audience, designed the suit it probably would look like that. I mean look at "KICK ASS", his suit was made out of a scuba suit.

So, if you didn't like the movie then fine. More power to you. But I do find it funny that someone would waste their time in a Spider-Man thread bemoaning over what they hated about the movie instead of spending time in other threads talking about other heroes.

Umm what do you think these forums are for if not to talk about their love and hate of very specific things in the movie? It's not like people are saying "this is absolutely terrible" and going at it (yes some are, and I agree with you there), but when people are being specific about the things they didn't like about the adaptation and discussing what they like and don't... how is that "puerile" or "schizophrenic" for the love of Kirby it's simply having a lot of love for the character.

As for spidey-wise-cracks it wasn't exactly the tightest dialogue or the wittiest you've seen on film, he could've wise-cracked more lol. And the gloves look puerile with... in the words of Sheriff Woody... having "a little red light-bulb that blinks." It's not a laser ya'll.

I'm really looking forward to see where this thing goes because it's got an excellent premise and some brilliant actors portraying some of comic-doms most interesting characters on-screen, but the end-result with movie 1 did leave a lot to be desired, let's not just give that away to Webb as a freebie, he coulda done better.
 
If we see Peter getting even faster and stronger, I'd love to have a scene where he just lets his Spider-sense take over. Like Electro's electricity is all over the place and Peter has a hard time to get to him, maybe even have him bruised and battered at this point, so we can have a damaged mask and see one of his eyes.

So instead of focusing on where the Electricity is, he just closes his eyes and lets instinct take over. Bobbing, weaving and dodging all of Electro's attacks, until they are standing face to face. Then Peter's eyes open, their eyes connect for a second and BAM!, a fist straight into Electro's face.

That would be incredible! The spidey-sense could've been used better in all the films overall, but that whole idea of instinct vs. intellect and Pete giving into his instincts? That's right up there to be an instant classic!

What I love about the spidey-sense is what it implies to Peter: a sort of sixth sense of danger but something that's completely physical, and even in the comics you have all these moments where he's not quite sure why it goes off (because as a scientist he struggles to remain detached from instinctual reactions) and so you have this very curious dynamic between physical impulse and conscious action. I'd love to see the spider-sense going off in a moment when Peter really doesn't want it to go off. Say when he's with someone he really, deeply trusts. Someone like Harry Osborn.
 
Reboots have only gotten stronger and stronger though with CBM fans. MOS will only get better from even TAS-M's numbers.
Thats debatable
Xmen:First class didnt earn much and it was released just 2 years ago
And TASM's numbers are also poor if you compare them with any other Spider man film
Not really getting 'Stronger and stronger'

That was being overconfident with TAS-M.
Not really
2 Spider-man movies have crossed a billion in recent times(Adjusted) unlike Superman

So I assume The Dark Knight Rises was the most anticipated film of 2012 by looking at YouTube's numbers?
Yeah
It did so well because it was actually the perfect comic book movie
And we are comparing CBMs here.What were the CBMs released in 2008?

Your point? Directors can't become better?
I was just asking you were your beloved Watchmen stood in your grading?

You also said Avengers wouldn't hype Iron Man 3 when in fact it would.
Definitely it would

It can have that title, because it's simply not the best reboot ever
Thats depends on a person's opinion
In terms of Facts(earnings) its the best reboot ever

The fanboys are arguing over who it could be already. How are most of them assuming it's Norman?
They are just speculating
If you take a poll,most of them will vote for Norman as their first guess(myself included)

And it wouldn't be trolling if it's someone else since Webb has even said it's not Norman. You don't know what trolling is as well as plot hole now :funny:
I guess that would be the first time a director has lied

Well it's not a big deal. A big deal would be $90 million off, not $9.
Still nothing wrong in saying that it didnt touch 500M

You're using the third trailers for those three when you're comparing the first trailers of Iron Man 3 and Man of Steel :huh:
Because we only have the first trailer right now
 
Suits you right for voicing your opinion and being hopeful for one of the most highly-anticipated superhero movies next year :argh:
:oldrazz:

I know, I know, I should've known better :funny:

Thats debatable
Xmen:First class didnt earn much and it was released just 2 years ago
And TASM's numbers are also poor if you compare them with any other Spider man film
Not really getting 'Stronger and stronger'

Debatable yes, but I feel that reboots are becoming more popular to CBM fans as we've acknowledged that more reboots are popping up and so do the general audience, who will just be seeing Superman regardless as he's firmly a part of American culture.

Not really
2 Spider-man movies have crossed a billion in recent times(Adjusted) unlike Superman

Movies rarely got to a billon, adjusted or not, back in the 70s-80s. Poor example.

But when speaking on TAS-M, it was indeed overconfidence with TAS-M not really providing anything new. It was merely 'updated' for the digital/technology age, that's all.

Yeah
It did so well because it was actually the perfect comic book movie
And we are comparing CBMs here.What were the CBMs released in 2008?

Wait, what? Are you talking about TDK? I asked if TDKR was the most anticipated film of 2012.

But to amuse your question for whatever point you're trying to make...The Dark Knight, Hellboy II: The Golden Army, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Punisher: War Zone and Wanted.

I was just asking you were your beloved Watchmen stood in your grading?

My grading? My grading gives Watchmen an A, because of what the film means to me personally.

Definitely it would

So you made a mistake by saying it wouldn't.

Thats depends on a person's opinion
In terms of Facts(earnings) its the best reboot ever

In terms of Facts(reception from critics, general audience and CBM fans alike), Batman Begins is the best reboot ever :up:

You make it seem as if money makes something the best. What a misguided soul you are.

They are just speculating
If you take a poll,most of them will vote for Norman as their first guess(myself included)

Lol, please do make a poll. It'll be interesting.

I guess that would be the first time a director has lied

Ahh, sarcasm. Brilliant maneuver.

Still nothing wrong in saying that it didnt touch 500M

Actually it's more wrong in saying it didn't reach $500 million than being only $9 million shy of $400 million.

Because we only have the first trailer right now

Thus I bring in the comparisons of the first trailers of TDKR, TAS-M and TA and we also know that the third trailers are the most watched, which means MOS will get much higher views with its third trailer than from its minute or so teaser. It's only natural.
 
Everytime I see the DJANGO UNCHAINED trailer, I wonder whether Electro is going to have the shocked/Afro look, or if they'll have Foxx go bald or something.
 
Everytime I see the DJANGO UNCHAINED trailer, I wonder whether Electro is going to have the shocked/Afro look, or if they'll have Foxx go bald or something.

:funny: That would be amazing. Someone manip that ****!
 
I can't say I'm big on this turn of events. I'm starting to lose faith in the series.
 
I can't say I'm big on this turn of events. I'm starting to lose faith in the series.

I'm going to wait for the movie before writing off the franchise.
I've seen casting choices of other movies and been disappointed but thought they were great in the final movie and seen other casting choices and been excited but hated them in the final movie.
 
I'm largely neither here nor there when it comes to Foxx's colour and that of Max Dillon/Electro. Not that every role is open to 'colour blind casting' as they call it, but I just can't picture Electro's colour being important to his character. Admittedly I haven't read every Spider-man comic or indeed, most of the issues that feature him (hey, I'm only old by some people's perspective :oldrazz:), but I don't see it as an issue here for me.

What I'm more interested in is that Foxx is a good actor as far as I know. I think if they are going to tackle Electro, who is thought of as a potentially difficult character to adapt, then you ideally want someone who may just be able to do the job.
 
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