Jared Leto IS The Joker - - Part 11

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I never noticed before that "Batman: R.I.P." Joker lacks eyebrows as well.
 
I never noticed before that "Batman: R.I.P." Joker lacks eyebrows as well.

If you had a pie of chart of Leto Joker influence, what would it be?


For example,

Morrison 45%
Miller 30%
Snyder 15%
Azzarello 10%
 
If you had a pie of chart of Leto Joker influence, what would it be?


For example,

Morrison 45%
Miller 30%
Snyder 15%
Azzarello 10%

Hmm... it's a hard one. I see a lot of "Endgame" Joker (that's Snyder, right?) with the undercut and facial structure, but also Miller's version regarding facial structure as well... I'd say:

Snyder 35%
Morrison 35%
Miller's TDKR 25%
Jim Lee's "All Star" (or would you consider this as Miller as well?) 5%

I don't see Azzarello's Joker at all, if we're talking about the standalone Joker comic. Ledger looked much like Azzarello's version. I'm not sure which inspired which, by the way.
 
Hmm... it's a hard one. I see a lot of "Endgame" Joker (that's Snyder, right?) with the undercut and facial structure, but also Miller's version regarding facial structure as well... I'd say:

Snyder 35%
Morrison 35%
Miller's TDKR 25%
Jim Lee's "All Star" (or would you consider this as Miller as well?) 5%

I don't see Azzarello's Joker at all, if we're talking about the standalone Joker comic. Ledger looked much like Azzarello's version. I'm not sure which inspired which, by the way.
Yea I dont see Azzarello's Joker in appearance. I just figured Leto's Joker will take a few clues from that one since Johnny Frost is in this movie. So I wouldnt be surprised if Ayer included somethings about that Joker in the movie.
 
That's quite possible, though Azzarello's Joker was certainly more, hm... serious(?) than usual.

I think the biggest influence of Azzarello's Joker is the fact that he has organized gang that he leads. It will be interesting to see this.
 
i'd like to see this pie chart alternatively with some other versions of joker , like heath ledger.
 
I'm really curious if Joker has the Robin tat when he meets Harleen. Would be odd to have him kill Jason years before turning Harleen into Harley Quinn.

In fact the initial promo pic featured the Robin tat in the same outfit (glove) as the trailer. I really hope Ayer didnt make that goof in the film.

Unless in this universe Jason Todd dies before Harley Quinn came on the scene.
 
Does it really matter?
Death in the family happened well before Harley was created for btas. :shrug:

Not sure it would be a "goof" to have it happen in ss before meeting her.
 
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Does it really matter?
Death in the family happened well before Harley was created for btas. :shrug:

Not sure it would be a "goof" to have it happen in ss before meeting her.

If thats the case.

Joker kills Robin.

Goes to Arkham for year(s)?.


Turns Harleen into Harley Quinn/Escapes Arkham

Batman tracks down Joker and Harley and sends her to prison.

Batman suddenly retires?



Just trying to figure out the timeline if Suicide Squad is indeed set before BvS.
 
Cast bonding spotted. Jared hanging out with Joel Kinnaman
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If thats the case.

Joker kills Robin.

Goes to Arkham for year(s)?.


Turns Harleen into Harley Quinn/Escapes Arkham

Batman tracks down Joker and Harley and sends her to prison.

Batman suddenly retires?



Just trying to figure out the timeline if Suicide Squad is indeed set before BvS.

Pretty sure it's never been confirmed that Batman is retired.just speculated.
 
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Hmm... it's a hard one. I see a lot of "Endgame" Joker (that's Snyder, right?) with the undercut and facial structure, but also Miller's version regarding facial structure as well... I'd say:

Snyder 35%
Morrison 35%
Miller's TDKR 25%
Jim Lee's "All Star" (or would you consider this as Miller as well?) 5%

I don't see Azzarello's Joker at all, if we're talking about the standalone Joker comic. Ledger looked much like Azzarello's version. I'm not sure which inspired which, by the way.

I think Azzarello's inspired Ledger's because some form of concept art pertaining to the novel was posted online around 2006, I believe. But yeah, I don't think Let's version is influenced by that version. From his look to what we do know about his characteristics this go around, it doesn't match.

Both Ledger & Azzarello's Joker are more mob boss-esque, which doesn't seem the case with Leto's interpretation.
 
I didn't care much for Azzarello's Joker graphic novel.
 
There was some good stuff in there, but it's really not one of my all time favorite stories.
 
I like the point the writer made. The Joker is not an anti-hero and nobody should "fanboy" him. He's a psychopathic a-hole with no redeeming qualities.

Not to mention that Harley Quinn reverse strip-tease...
 
I like the point the writer made. The Joker is not an anti-hero and nobody should "fanboy" him. He's a psychopathic a-hole with no redeeming qualities.
I guess that's the message we're left with, yes. The plot was basic. Joker is released from prison, attempts to takes back his turf and kills a bunch of people in brutal ways. Not just his enemies, but his allies. But something about it all just didn't resonate with me. I personally wouldn't say it's up there with The Killing Joke or The Man Who Laughs.
 
Leto is 5'9, Kinnaman is like 6'1.
 
I like how Leto said **** it and dyed his hair red/pink.
 
I didn't care much for Azzarello's Joker graphic novel.

To each their own but it's actually one of my favorite Joker stories. Not the absolute best or the definitive Joker story, but for me still definitely one of the top ones.

True, the plot was basic, but I think it was intentionally so as some of the best stories are those that keep things relatively simple. I don't know, I guess I just liked the advent of getting to see the Joker from somebody's perspective other than Batman or anyone else within the Bat-family. And the fact that he was completely unhinged, a nasty, vile beast of a man...which is exactly what he is and should always be.
 
Its one of the best Joker stories in the same way Luthor:Man of Steel is one of the best Luthor stories
They are both uncompromising portrayals of the villain as a protagonist of sorts although Joker introduces Johnny Frost and you view the Joker through his POV. He is also a criminal who comes to revere Joker and gains insight to his character the more he is around him.
 
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