Jared Leto IS The Joker - Part 6

[Boy Scout]

 

[Travesty]

Did he just get back from the future? What the hell is he wearing?

 

[Boom]

Seems the cat doesn't care for the forehead tattoo either.

 

[StarLord]

Did he just get back from the future? What the hell is he wearing?

He's got a DeLorean... I thought he was still in Canada!

Ninjas be slacking.

 

[Travesty]

Hey Leto, you bojo!! Hover boards don't work on water...unless you've got power!

 

[Rodrigo90]

I don't know which pic is cuter

 

[The Shape]

Not to say Heath looked exactly like the "classic Joker", but in his full get-up he was closer than many gave him credit for

Do you honestly think Leto's Joker won't look closer to "classic Joker" when he's, you know, wearing clothes?

 

[I Am The Knight]

When Leto is shown on screen with his hair styled to cover the Damaged tat and he's shown quipping darkly and before laughing and violently offing someone like he was blowing his nose most that were so unpleased will wonder why they freaked out in the fist place.

What would be the point of doing that

 

[Travesty]

Do you honestly think Leto's Joker won't look closer to "classic Joker" when he's, you know, wearing clothes?

Having messy makeup is one thing, but having face tattoos and a grill is another. I mean, when has "classic Joker" had any of those things?

I could totally get over the body tats, but I can't get over the face or grill. No suit can cover that up.

 

[The Shape]

Having messy makeup is one thing, but having face tattoos and a grill is another. I mean, when has "classic Joker" had any of those things?

You forgot the part about him also having normal skin color as opposed to white skin. When has the Joker had that? And outside of Bermejo's art, has classic Joker always had facial scars that look like a fixed smile?

I could totally get over the body tats, but I can't get over the face or grill. No suit can cover that up.

You know I'm not a fan of either of those things either, but thankfully, Leto's Joker won't be filmed in close-up under bright lighting while making an "AHHHHH" screaming face for the entirety of his scenes in Suicide Squad. He's also not going to walk around naked for the entire movie.

Therefore, the teeth probably won't be too noticeable or annoying in the actual film itself, and I'm not going to pretend that a tiny tattoo on his forehead will prevent him from looking or acting like The Joker.

We all were able to move past some major aesthetic changes that we saw in Heath's Joker, so if this film is good and they deliver another great interpretation of the character, I think we'll be able to get over these few aesthetic changes and enjoy it all for what it is -- an adaptation of a comic book character and not a direct translation.

 

[Boy Scout]

It doesn't surprise me at all that so many people online are confusing what Leto's Joker has for a grill.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

What would be the point of doing that

Same as putting clothes on. My guess is most of the time on screen the ink is actually going to be covered up one way or the other. In the reveal picture he's kinda pulling his hair back and the Damage tat is close to his hairline to my eyes. Styling his hair ever so slightly and it will not be so noticeable. Will there be a scene or scenes where we see ALL the tattoos clearly? For sure. But when he goes shirtless for what ever reason and his hair gets slicked back, maybe in a sequence having to do with water or something. Maybe? It's pretty early to be sure of anything but that's my guess.

That reveal pic was meant to be shocking but I would be surprised if Joker ran around shirtless with his hair slicked back for all his screentime in Suicide Squad.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Do you honestly think Leto's Joker won't look closer to "classic Joker" when he's, you know, wearing clothes?

If you read my other point it's not even about how close to classic Joker his character will look but how they presented him with this "edgy", "hip", "modern" look, which regardless of what the Joker is wearing is not how you'd describe that character.

Either way the performance will count the most but the image is still silly.

 

[RadioSha]

Having messy makeup is one thing, but having face tattoos and a grill is another. I mean, when has "classic Joker" had any of those things?

I could totally get over the body tats, but I can't get over the face or grill. No suit can cover that up.

The forehead tattoo is THE one thing I hate about it. I like the grill. It's hardcore (not joking).

 

[Boom]

If Batman did knock out Joker's teeth, I would have preferred normal-looking dentures. But I suppose that'd draw comparisons to Silva in Skyfall.

The bulkier physique, metal teeth, and tattoos are a bit too thuggish for my tastes, but I'd like to see more of this look before I decide one way or another.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

I second Boom. But was Leto's pic really a recent one? I though it was just another old photo he shared.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Same as putting clothes on.

Eh...Nope. Not the same at all. They gave the Joker a tattoo on his freaking forehead, not on his dick. They want it to to be visible.

My guess is most of the time on screen the ink is actually going to be covered up one way or the other. In the reveal picture he's kinda pulling his hair back and the Damage tat is close to his hairline to my eyes.

No. He is trying to pay homage to the Killing Joke. He has short hair. He doesn't need to pull it back. Unless he has an emo hairdo they are not ready to reveal yet But I will give you points for coming up with a new excuse for this pic.

Styling his hair ever so slightly and it will not be so noticeable. Will there be a scene or scenes where we see ALL the tattoos clearly? For sure. But when he goes shirtless for what ever reason and his hair gets slicked back, maybe in a sequence having to do with water or something. Maybe? It's pretty early to be sure of anything but that's my guess.

That reveal pic was meant to be shocking but I would be surprised if Joker ran around shirtless with his hair slicked back for all his screentime in Suicide Squad.

Why in the world would they put a tatoo on his forehead if they didn't want for it to be visible? Why would they give Joker an emo hairdo just so that they can cover the thing they (the filmmakers) put on his forehead?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Eh...Nope. Not the same at all. They gave the Joker a tattoo on his freaking forehead, not on his dick. They want it to to be visible.



No. He is trying to pay homage to the Killing Joke. He has short hair. He doesn't need to pull it back. Unless he has an emo hairdo they are not ready to reveal yet But I will give you points for coming up with a new excuse for this pic.



Why in the world would they put a tatoo on his forehead if they didn't want for it to be visible? Why would they give Joker an emo hairdo just so that they can cover the thing they (the filmmakers) put on his forehead?

I am well aware it was a TKJ homage.

I gave my thoughts. You are free to disagree. Why the response has to have implicit insults as though I had pissed in your cereal this morning baffles the hell out of me.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I am well aware it was a TKJ homage.

I gave my thoughts. You are free to disagree. Why the response has to have implicit insults as though I had pissed in your cereal this morning baffles the hell out of me.

I am not insulting you, calm down. I just don't think it's very logical for them to hide the Damage tat, although I wish they would

 

[Codex Tesseract]

You forgot the part about him also having normal skin color as opposed to white skin. When has the Joker had that?

You call that a normal skin color?

It IS white in the same way teeth are white, i.e. a color that actually occurs in nature and is believable as something other than white makeup. It's a minor change in translation that goes a long way. Do you lament anything other than spandex being used in superhero costumes?

 

[Codex Tesseract]

If you read my other point it's not even about how close to classic Joker his character will look but how they presented him with this "edgy", "hip", "modern" look, which regardless of what the Joker is wearing is not how you'd describe that character.

Either way the performance will count the most but the image is still silly.

I don't know how this forum feels about reposts, but what I said before on this is particularly relevant here:

Can we not at least agree that there are far fewer and far less significant changes from source in Leto than Ledger?

A VAST amount of Ledger's Joker was either greatly separated from source or made up completely. And most of us forgave it, because we could see Nolan understood the mythos and liked the character and thus the Joker we know was still in there.

I think people are having a fearful reaction (And fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate...) based on assumptions about the thinking behind this image. The tats, the rings, the "grill" seem to suggest some guys with sketch books trying to turn the Joker into a New Jersey goth or something.

Here's the thing, though: Whether you liked them or not, the costumes in MoS were EXTREMELY well thought out. If you watch the behind the scenes stuff you'll see how much back story went into every minor decision. Snyder has made a point to say that he really really tried to include the briefs but it just didn't work with any of the concept designs that included them.

Snyder might not be directing, but he is supervising the DCCU, and they're going to be at least seeking his input. That means Snyder is going to be asking for reasons behind everything, whether or not those reasons are revealed in the movie (Most of Krypton's engineering and fashion isn't revealed in the movie, but there were volumes of thought and design behind it).

In other words, nothing was just thrown into this Joker because it kinda looked cool or because it made him grittier. There's a purpose, and that purpose is likely rooted in the Joker's story. You may ultimately disagree with how that purpose translates into the movie, but you shouldn't fear that there is no purpose at all.

 

[The Shape]

You call that a normal skin color?

It IS white in the same way teeth are white, i.e. a color that actually occurs in nature and is believable as something other than white makeup. It's a minor change in translation that goes a long way. Do you lament anything other than spandex being used in superhero costumes?

What are you talking about?

In what you quoted from me, I was talking about Heath Ledger's Joker and ultimately making the assertion that aesthetic changes don't necessarily mean the character will be butchered, or that it won't be a good interpretation of The Joker. We saw some significant aesthetic changes with Heath's Joker. I was replying to someone else I was conversing with about this.

Do you read?

 

[The Shape]

Can we not at least agree that there are far fewer and far less significant changes from source in Leto than Ledger?

And I agree with this.

 

[Codex Tesseract]

What are you talking about?

In what you quoted from me, I was talking about Heath Ledger's Joker and ultimately making the assertion that aesthetic changes don't necessarily mean the character will be butchered, or that it won't be a good interpretation of The Joker. We saw some significant aesthetic changes with Heath's Joker. I was replying to someone else I was conversing with about this.

Do you read?

I started to suspect that might be the case after posting that, given your other posts surrounding it. My bad.

Of course, it's worth noting that that very same co-writer/director went on to make a Bane that bears virtually no resemblance to his comic book counterpart.

 

[Keehar]

Seems the cat doesn't care for the forehead tattoo either.

Smart cat.