Jared Leto IS The Joker - Part 6

[QueenChaos]

This back-and-forth is growing old good and quick.

Get here soon, Comic Con.

Absolutely.. I'm weary of this. Trusting no one until I see it for myself.

The tattoos have grown on me.. to take them away now

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I do like the tats, but it won't suck if they're not there. The teeth however? Yeah, I would keep those.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

It is absolutely astonishing the bru-ha-ha surrounding the tattoos.

"The greatest trick the Joker ever pulled was convincing the world he has sick tats!"

 

[Codex Tesseract]

I assume you're joking, since why would Snyder be involved in the colour correction for someone else's movie...

Because he is in charge of the DCCU and they want all the movies to resemble each other enough to be believably happening in the same world. Step one of that is aesthetic consistency.

 

[roach]

Because he is in charge of the DCCU and they want all the movies to resemble each other enough to be believably happening in the same world. Step one of that is aesthetic consistency.

and yet we didnt see any of the MOS color correction in the BvS trailer

 

[hellblazer103]

It is absolutely astonishing the bru-ha-ha surrounding the tattoos.

"The greatest trick the Joker tattoos ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist. "

fixed.

 

[Miranda Fox]

This back-and-forth is growing old good and quick.

Get here soon, Comic Con.

Agreed.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

fixed.

I guess it could either way on that one.

 

[The Endless]

Leto Joker is a better interpretation of the character, visually, than the Joker who straps his cut off face back on from the comics.

There has been many versions of the Joker, that is the beauty of the character. To say one is "Joker in name only" misses the point i think. To like or dislike a version is cool. But to be like "Oh Joker wouldn't do that! Joker wouldn't do this!" is silly. I mean, what the **** do you know? The Joker isn't a real being... he's a fictional character. His appearance and personality is dictated by whoever is writing, drawing or performing him.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Leto Joker is a better interpretation of the character, visually, than the Joker who straps his cut off face back on from the comics.

There has been many versions of the Joker, that is the beauty of the character. To say one is "Joker in name only" misses the point i think. To like or dislike a version is cool. But to be like "Oh Joker wouldn't do that! Joker wouldn't do this!" is silly. I mean, what the **** do you know? The Joker isn't a real being... he's a fictional character. His appearance and personality is dictated by whoever is writing, drawing or performing him.

 

[QueenChaos]

Leto Joker is a better interpretation of the character, visually, than the Joker who straps his cut off face back on from the comics.

There has been many versions of the Joker, that is the beauty of the character. To say one is "Joker in name only" misses the point i think. To like or dislike a version is cool. But to be like "Oh Joker wouldn't do that! Joker wouldn't do this!" is silly. I mean, what the **** do you know? The Joker isn't a real being... he's a fictional character. His appearance and personality is dictated by whoever is writing, drawing or performing him.

To be fair as well, I don't think having his face cut off and strapping it back on was meant as quintessential Joker. It was more of a symbolic move that would double in adding to his creepiness.. representative of his agenda, the transformative nature of the arc, and a revelation of identity.

I agree 100% with your post though, that's exactly it.. And I think Leto/Ayer's take is visually true to the Joker, no matter how you slice it or what nitpicks or opinions surface about it. It's discernable as Mr. J.
The green hair, the permawhite flesh, the heightened red smile. And more than this, the sheer chaos in his eyes.. It's The Joker.

The rest is simply a result of interpretation. And we may or may not get it anyway.

 

[Wheels]

It saddens me to say as a big fan of both the Leto casting and Ayer's hiring as director, but I'm not feeling this look.

 

[Broseph44]

Because he is in charge of the DCCU and they want all the movies to resemble each other enough to be believably happening in the same world. Step one of that is aesthetic consistency.

No.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Because he is in charge of the DCCU and they want all the movies to resemble each other enough to be believably happening in the same world. Step one of that is aesthetic consistency.

No director with any hits, like Ayer, would agree to make a movie if the final feel of the film was left up to someone else. On top of this the final look including Colour Correction, Colour Grading, and the like are up the the Cinematographer Roman Vasyanov, not the director and certainly not Snyder.

 

[Codex Tesseract]

No.

Yes.

No director with any hits, like Ayer, would agree to make a movie if the final feel of the film was left up to someone else. On top of this the final look including Colour Correction, Colour Grading, and the like are up the the Cinematographer Roman Vasyanov, not the director and certainly not Snyder.

You really think WB will permit a movie within the DCCU that bears no aesthetic resemblance to any other movie within the DCCU? You really don't think there's at the very least a memo detailing a small handful of things that must go into the cinematography of every movie?

And then there's the fact that Ayer was likely chosen because his movies already bear a lot of that aesthetic. We barely saw daylight in Training Day.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Well, here's hoping that 2 years from now, when we all have Suicide Squad on blu ray, we will look back at these old threads and laugh. The same way we look back at the old Ledger threads. I do see a pattern, although I feel like concerns over Leto's joker are much more legitimate than the fears people had over Ledger's Joker.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

You really think WB will permit a movie within the DCCU that bears no aesthetic resemblance to any other movie within the DCCU? You really don't think there's at the very least a memo detailing a small handful of things that must go into the cinematography of every movie?

And then there's the fact that Ayer was likely chosen because his movies already bear a lot of that aesthetic. We barely saw daylight in Training Day.

Aesthetics are a given, obviously. But I think you might be surprised how different these movies will feel. Snyder is a busy guy, and even so I don't think it would be in WB's best interest to make all there movies look so similar. I highly doubt there was a memo either detailing cinematic requirements, because it's unnecessary. People are going to know these movies are connected, there is no point in making Suicide Squad aesthetically similar to BvS because it won't matter. Suicide Squad is Ayer's movie, not Snyder, and it will be it's own thing.

 

[Codex Tesseract]

Aesthetics are a given, obviously. But I think you might be surprised how different these movies will feel. Snyder is a busy guy, and even so I don't think it would be in WB's best interest to make all there movies look so similar. I highly doubt there was a memo either detailing cinematic requirements, because it's unnecessary. People are going to know these movies are connected, there is no point in making Suicide Squad aesthetically similar to BvS because it won't matter. Suicide Squad is Ayer's movie, not Snyder, and it will be it's own thing.

Ironically, I hope you're right. I think SS's best shot at success it to be unadulterated fun, just rampant murder and mayhem ala Deadpool or Lobo. If it is as serious as BvS is looking like it's shaping up to be, it may end up having far less appeal.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Ironically, I hope you're right. I think SS's best shot at success it to be unadulterated fun, just rampant murder and mayhem ala Deadpool or Lobo. If it is as serious as BvS is looking like it's shaping up to be, it may end up having far less appeal.

You saw the Will Smith set pics right? I think their having fun with it.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Oh brother.

 

[Codex Tesseract]

You saw the Will Smith set pics right? I think their having fun with it.

Touche'

 

[Guts]

The Suicide Squad comics don't even have the same tone as Lobo or Deadpool.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Ironically, I hope you're right. I think SS's best shot at success it to be unadulterated fun, just rampant murder and mayhem ala Deadpool or Lobo. If it is as serious as BvS is looking like it's shaping up to be, it may end up having far less appeal.

Um....that's not what Suicide Squad is. AT ALL.

 

[The Endless]

There will certainly be studio mandated details. I imagine certain points that have to be in each movie... but the individual creative team are the ones who fill in the gaps and put their own ideas in, whether that's the writing, directing or cinematography.

 

[Guts]

Um....that's not what Suicide Squad is. AT ALL.

But Suicide Squad is simply DC's Guardians of the Galaxy.