The Force Awakens John Boyega as Finn

[Blade X]

I wouldnt describe him as a con artist at all.

He conned Rey into thinking that he was with the Rebellion,he conned the Rebellion into thinking that his job as a Stormtrooper was something more important/significant then what it was,and he conned the Rebellion into thinking that his reasons for going to the Starkiller base was to both destroy the Starkiller weapon and to rescue Rey, when he actually his real and sole reason for leading them inside was to rescue Rey.

 

[Havok83]

He conned Rey into thinking that he was with the Rebellion,he conned the Rebellion into thinking that his job as a Stormtrooper was something more important/significant then what it was,and he conned the Rebellion into thinking that his reasons for going to the Starkiller base was to both destroy the Starkiller weapon and to rescue Rey, when he actually his real and sole reason for leading them inside was to rescue Rey.

He lied to survive in the situation he was thrust into. That doesnt mean he was a con artist. If simply telling a lie makes a person a con artist than I would say that the vast majority of us are. That term has a negative connotation with the implication that lies are being told as a scam for some selfish gain

 

[magneto23]

I wonder how he'll be different when he awakens from his coma.

Besides a nasty scar on his back? Or maybe a leadership role within the resistance? No changes beyond that. Same Finn. With no force powers. They aren't shoving him into Rey and Luke's force training/jedi/potential family drama storyline.

 

[Blade X]

He lied to survive in the situation he was thrust into. That doesnt mean he was a con artist. If simply telling a lie makes a person a con artist than I would say that the vast majority of us are. That term has a negative connotation with the implication that lies are being told as a scam for some selfish gain

You're taking what I said to literally. If you look at my earlier post I said that he was a "BIT of a slick con artist". The key word in my post being "BIT". He told a few convincing lies, which makes him a BIT of a con artist, NOT a full time professional con artist. He was able to con Rey and the Rebels into helping him get what he wanted (which was away from the First Order and to rescue Rey, who he obviously was attracted to).

 

[Blade X]

I'm getting the feeling that Finn is force sensitive. He obviously can resist the First Order brainwashing, Kylo Ren senses the light in him over the course of the film, and the fact he went up against Kylo Ren in a lightsaber battle and even managed to injure him in the process. He also survives a devastating lightsaber blow. I wonder how he'll be different when he awakens from his coma.

Like I said in an earlier post, Kylo Ren clearly sensed something about Finn when he was walking back towards his ship after he had the Stormtroopers execute those villagers. Ren was walking and looking straight forward when he stopped and then turned to look at Finn (which occurred a few minutes after the Stormtroopers finished executing those group of villagers and moved onto destroy the rest of the village).

 

[Blade X]

Besides a nasty scar on his back? Or maybe a leadership role within the resistance? No changes beyond that. Same Finn. With no force powers. They aren't shoving him into Rey and Luke's force training/jedi/potential family drama storyline.

Who said that they had to shove him into the Skywalker family drama? Maybe at the end of this trilogy they might follow Lucas's RUMORED original rejected plan for this trilogy, which was to have Luke form and train a new group of Jedi Knights, in which Finn is one of them. Another possible direction they can go in is to have Finn be Force sensitive, but refuse to be trained in the way of the Force and thus rely on the limited enhanced skills that the Force gives him.

OMT, I'm pretty sure that Lightsaber wound Finn received will leave far more then a nasty scar. I think (and hope) that Finn might receive some kind of cool and powerful cybernetic enhancements.

 

[titansupes]

Like I said in an earlier post, Kylo Ren clearly sensed something about Finn when he was walking back towards his ship after he had the Stormtroopers execute those villagers. Ren was walking and looking straight forward when he stopped and then turned to look at Finn (which occurred a few minutes after the Stormtroopers finished executing those group of villagers and moved onto destroy the rest of the village).

Ren sensed the emotional conflict in Finn, not Force sensitivity. He sensed that when every other trooper was thinking "Yes sir, kill the villagers, okay now fan out", Finn was thinking "This is ****ing horrible. What am I doing here? These poor people..." etc.

 

[magneto23]

Who said that they had to shove him into the Skywalker family drama?

People clearly want Finn to have force powers and to train and become a Jedi in this trilogy. You didn't specifically say that, but its sentiments that I've seen across multiple forums/comment sections. And doing that within this trilogy, would put him right in the Skywalker story.

Maybe at the end of this trilogy they might follow Lucas's RUMORED original rejected plan for this trilogy, which was to have Luke form and train a new group of Jedi Knights, in which Finn is one of them.

Don't see Luke surviving this trilogy, but its possible. Maybe Rey instead. Or far fetched idea, maybe a redeemed Ben.

Another possible direction they can go in is to have Finn be Force sensitive, but refuse to be trained in the way of the Force and thus rely on the limited enhanced skills that the Force gives him.

Ugh. Why not just leave him a regular guy at that point?

 

[Blade X]

People clearly want Finn to have force powers and to train and become a Jedi in this trilogy. You didn't specifically say that, but its sentiments that I've seen across multiple forums/comment sections. And doing that within this trilogy, would put him right in the Skywalker story.

By being friends with and having romantic feelings for Rey, he is already indirectly a part of the Skywalker story. So him having Force powers won't make a bit of difference.

Don't see Luke surviving this trilogy, but its possible. Maybe Rey instead. Or far fetched idea, maybe a redeemed Ben.

It's possible.

Ugh. Why not just leave him a regular guy at that point?

Because having a little Force power, is better then having no Force powers.

 

[writer0327]

By being friends with and having romantic feelings for Rey, he is already indirectly a part of the Skywalker story. So him having Force powers won't make a bit of difference.

Because having a little Force power, is better then having no Force powers.

Finn feels like Han Solo to me, a straight forward action hero who won't have any bigger backstory. He'll be a fan fave because he's cool, roguish, and saves the day. If he ends up force-sensitive, I'd be stunned.

p.s.: And I think Poe will end up with Rey instead of Finn...

 

[MurkeNyou]

Personally, I see Finns force wielding be tapped into in this next film. The one thing about this film is, you feel the Force in itself pulling the narrative and pushing people and things together again. I thinbks that is what people have an issue with about the "coincidences", they are not coincidences, it's destiny. And Destiny tends to follow patterns. Greek & Viking sagas and such.

 

[magneto23]

Personally, I see Finns force wielding be tapped into in this next film. The one thing about this film is, you feel the Force in itself pulling the narrative and pushing people and things together again. I thinbks that is what people have an issue with about the "coincidences", they are not coincidences, it's destiny. And Destiny tends to follow patterns. Greek & Viking sagas and such.

Patterns? By that logic, Finn is either the Han or Leia character since Rey is obviously the Luke character. Neither of them force wielders.

 

[writer0327]

Patterns? By that logic, Finn is either the Han or Leia character since Rey is obviously the Luke character. Neither of them force wielders.

Precisely. The way I see it...

Finn=Han
Rey=Luke
Poe=Leia

 

[MurkeNyou]

Patterns? By that logic, Finn is either the Han or Leia character since Rey is obviously the Luke character. Neither of them force wielders.

Maybe not pattens as so much as chords, like playing a guitar. You can have similar riffs, but the structures can vary but still be on the same string. Thats why the three new characters resonate so uniformly with people. There is a little Han, Leia, and Luke in all 3. Hell, Poe reminded me of maverick in Top Gun sometimes.

 

[RockSP]

Besides a nasty scar on his back? Or maybe a leadership role within the resistance? No changes beyond that. Same Finn. With no force powers. They aren't shoving him into Rey and Luke's force training/jedi/potential family drama storyline.

Hopefully you're wrong in that regard. Next film I hope he's able to win some fights.

 

[Victarion]

I'd rather see a gunslinger that can match with the jedi than another jedi. Finn could be that gunslinger.

 

[Val_Zod]

Finn feels like Han Solo to me, a straight forward action hero who won't have any bigger backstory. He'll be a fan fave because he's cool, roguish, and saves the day. If he ends up force-sensitive, I'd be stunned.

p.s.: And I think Poe will end up with Rey instead of Finn...

I think you have it backwards. Finn has to have an explained backstory, given the mystery of where he came from. Plus, I'd hardly call him "badass". If anything Poe fits that bill even more.

Personally, I don't think there will be any romantic relations in this series, but there's a faaarrrr better chance of Rey and Finn hooking up than Poe or Rey who don't even share a line of dialogue with eachother at any point in the film. Heck,, Finn/Poe seems more believable as well.

As for Finn being force sensitive, I don't see him becoming a jedi, but I think there is a chance of him obtaining some degree of force sensitivity similar to Leia.

 

[writer0327]

I think you have it backwards. Finn has to have an explained backstory, given the mystery of where he came from. Plus, I'd hardly call him "badass". If anything Poe fits that bill even more.

Personally, I don't think there will be any romantic relations in this series, but there's a faaarrrr better chance of Rey and Finn hooking up than Poe or Rey who don't even share a line of dialogue with each other at any point in the film. Heck,, Finn/Poe seems more believable as well.

As for Finn being force sensitive, I don't see him becoming a jedi, but I think there is a chance of him obtaining some degree of force sensitivity similar to Leia.

I believe in the novelization there will be some hints towards attraction between Rey and Poe.

I think Rey sees Poe as a brother figure more than a romantic interest.

I don't know how much they'll get into Finn's backstory, I suppose they could.

Honestly, I could see Finn and Poe in the Han role, but Finn just seems like someone who will be in the saga providing what Han provided: some comedy, some "save the day" moments that surprise us. Poe seems to be one who will be in the Leia in the OT role of Resistance leader, planner, going on missions, etc.

 

[Blade X]

Patterns? By that logic, Finn is either the Han or Leia character since Rey is obviously the Luke character. Neither of them force wielders.

Leia is Force sensitive.

 

[Blade X]

I'd rather see a gunslinger that can match with the jedi than another jedi. Finn could be that gunslinger.

If they give him some cybernetic enhancements, he certainly could be that gunslinger.

 

[magneto23]

Leia is Force sensitive.

Sensitive yes. And only because of her lineage. Force wielder? No. She doesn't wield her force powers. Or at least hasn't shown it yet.

 

[TheVileOne]

I believe in the novelization there will be some hints towards attraction between Rey and Poe.

Which means nothing. Novelizations are usually based on earlier script drafts, and little moments like that can frequently get retconned later on.

I think Rey sees Poe as a brother figure more than a romantic interest.

There's no way to tell. They have absolutely no interaction in this film at all. They barely even share a scene together.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm getting the feeling that Finn is force sensitive. He obviously can resist the First Order brainwashing, Kylo Ren senses the light in him over the course of the film, and the fact he went up against Kylo Ren in a lightsaber battle and even managed to injure him in the process. He also survives a devastating lightsaber blow. I wonder how he'll be different when he awakens from his coma.

He's not Force sensitive. He's not a Jedi. Snoke isn't Plagueis. The staff is just a staff.

 

[JaD]

Is there info out about who Snoke is or something?

 

[Blade X]

This podcast did a review of SW:TFA, and pointed out something that might have been a hint that Finn was (at the very least) Force sensitive. They pointed out that the Force theme music was played when Finn had the blood of that dead Stormtrooper wiped on his helmet. They also share my opinion/desire to see a non Jedi/non Sith user of the Force. Give this podcast a listen. FYI, due to strong language, this podcast is NSFW.

http://thetwobrandons.buzzsprout.com/10132/336286-episode-22-the-force-unleashed