BlueLightning
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I don't know, some of the speculation here is just too much brutality. Perhaps it would have detracted or hampered the focus on Bruce's character.
As much as Nolan likes to say he doesn't cut stuff from his films, I think this one is probably missing quite a bit that was filmed(not just stuff from the first draft). There's probably a lot more footage of Bane's revolution and Bruce's imprisonment on the cutting room floor.
As much as Nolan likes to say he doesn't cut stuff from his films, I think this one is probably missing quite a bit that was filmed(not just stuff from the first draft). There's probably a lot more footage of Bane's revolution and Bruce's imprisonment on the cutting room floor.
If The Dark Knight Rises were to have two parts, what would be the perfect moment to end Part 1? Imo, it couldn't be when Bane broke the Bat because that would be under 90 minutes.
If The Dark Knight Rises were to have two parts, what would be the perfect moment to end Part 1? Imo, it couldn't be when Bane broke the Bat because that would be under 90 minutes.
If The Dark Knight Rises were to have two parts, what would be the perfect moment to end Part 1? Imo, it couldn't be when Bane broke the Bat because that would be under 90 minutes.
At the moment Bane says: "Gotham will survive" showing the reactor core timer ticking away. Cut to black, "To Be Continued".
When Bruce escaped the pit would be perfect IMO. It ends the first one in a high note and builds up excitement for the 2nd part.
As much as Nolan likes to say he doesn't cut stuff from his films, I think this one is probably missing quite a bit that was filmed(not just stuff from the first draft). There's probably a lot more footage of Bane's revolution and Bruce's imprisonment on the cutting room floor.
Cinema is not television (thank god !) . I dont think a movie should be separated because some plot points (because that's what they are) could be more explored . Rises has a very specific story about Bruce. The context is very rich , i understand that , like i understand people like to spend more time in this universe , but that doesn't translate to more movies. Begins , TDK , Rises , all of them have a clear arc in them. This is the same sort of thought i read alot after TDK...Two Face should have been left to the sequel. Its kinda crazy because its very clear the role Harvey has in the story , and his downfall and demise are very specific to that movie. Just like in Rises , i would go banana's if the movie stopped at him not being able to fulffil what the movie his trying to accomplish. His journey his what matters. If the movie stops halfway...there's nothing. Its incomplete.
Cinema shouldn't be treated like , well if its 2 hours over let's make another one. That to me is something completely outside of the realm of cinema. You either have a story to tell , or you dont.
Lee Smith , the editor , stated that this time they had a little more than usual , so they went and trimmed the whole thing. I dont believe there's anything major left out , only longer scenes of what we saw (especially action)
Agreed.
I know for a fact Nolan would have kept all of that stuff in the movie if they weren't restricted with an IMAX running time, and the bad thing is that we'll never get a director's cut now since Nolan isn't a fan of having those.
But...knowing the IMAX time limit and what not helps me understand why there is a lack of certain things and has me appreciate the movie for what it does show, hence why it's still my favorite of the trilogy.
As much as Nolan likes to say he doesn't cut stuff from his films, I think this one is probably missing quite a bit that was filmed(not just stuff from the first draft). There's probably a lot more footage of Bane's revolution and Bruce's imprisonment on the cutting room floor.
That wasn't even a rumor. Just a speculation/idea/dream scene by a poster here IIRC. Same with the idea that the reason Bruce was screaming in prison was because someone was getting killed in front of him every time he fails to escape.Lots of ideas/speculations were thrown around back then just going by the set pics and reports. Funny how close some were and how way off the others turned out to be.
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I wish we saw more of Bane as well in the second act. He never seemed like a leader after the speeches. The neck choke scene is the only scene I can really remember after the speeches and before the war.
Cinema is not television (thank god !) . I dont think a movie should be separated because some plot points (because that's what they are) could be more explored . Rises has a very specific story about Bruce. The context is very rich , i understand that , like i understand people like to spend more time in this universe , but that doesn't translate to more movies. Begins , TDK , Rises , all of them have a clear arc in them. This is the same sort of thought i read alot after TDK...Two Face should have been left to the sequel. Its kinda crazy because its very clear the role Harvey has in the story , and his downfall and demise are very specific to that movie. Just like in Rises , i would go banana's if the movie stopped at him not being able to fulffil what the movie his trying to accomplish. His journey his what matters. If the movie stops halfway...there's nothing. Its incomplete.
Cinema shouldn't be treated like , well if its 2 hours over let's make another one. That to me is something completely outside of the realm of cinema. You either have a story to tell , or you dont.
Lee Smith , the editor , stated that this time they had a little more than usual , so they went and trimmed the whole thing. I dont believe there's anything major left out , only longer scenes of what we saw (especially action)
They had 280 minutes of screenplay, they cut it down to over 165 minutes of filmed footage and then threw some of that away accommodate for IMAX reels, they had too much story to be told in the period of time they had.
It's more of an estimation, The Dark Knight had a script that was nearly 200 pages and Chris said Jonah's script was nearly 400 so I just doubled the runtime of The Dark Knight, it could have been either side of that number.
With submission, I felt the film galloped along at a quick clip in my first viewing.