Superman Returns Lex Luthor's True Characterization Expanded On (Hes not doing a homage to Hackman)

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venom420 said:
You know this whole insane, pyschotic, and unstable, yet comical and witty, even in the face of our hero and heroine, reminds me of one character from comic book lore...........................................

THE JOKER!!! You guys are describing the Joker.

:rolleyes: Very funny.
 
Cinemaman said:
:rolleyes: Very funny.

I know, in all my years as a Superman fan, I never knew The Joker was a Superman villian. I always thought he was Batman's foe. Stupid me.

But in all seriousness, the way some of you are desrcribing this version of Lex, it sounds like you guys are diagnosing him with Joker like symptoms of insanity.
 
Cinemaman said:
I did that on previous page.

No what you did was say how you saw it,there is no proof,you look at it and see phsycotic,funny etc....some of us see Campy and panto
 
hunter rider said:
No what you did was say how you saw it,there is no proof,you look at it and see phsycotic,funny etc....some of use see Campy and panto

And how he can prove that Luthor sounds campy?

I think you need to rewatch trailers, you can find there enough serious scenes of Lex ;)
 
Cinemaman said:
And how he can prove that Luthor sounds campy?

I think you need to rewatch trailers, you can find there enough serious scenes of Lex ;)

I didn't say he could prove it,i said it was unprovable,you look at his OTT monets and you see what you see
 
Ok, I don't mean to cause any trouble here, I never do, but those moments of camp consisted of Lex dancing around in fron of Lois saying " let me hear you say ". Awful. And the kryptonite line. Dorky. The fact that he has a goon squad that he shouts insults out to. HORRIBLE. The whole speech Lex gives with the crystal in his grasp had Hackman all over it.

The only awesome Lex scenes where the god line and Now Fly. Thats it. When you say pyschotic but funny, I think Joker. And Lex Luthor is not the Joker and should never be treated like that ever.
 
hunter rider said:
I didn't say he could prove it,i said it was unprovable,you look at his OTT monets and you see what you see

"Tell me everything", "Gods are selfish...", "Now Fly", "Cute Kid", "Wait for it", "Imagine cities...", "See anything familiar...", "This is where he learn who he was..." and "I have advanced technology". They all sounds very seriosly and they also are proof of that Lex sounds more serious than campy.
 
Cinemaman said:
"Tell me everything", "Gods are selfish...", "Now Fly", "Cute Kid", "Wait for it", "Imagine cities...", "See anything familiar...", "This is where he learn who he was..." and "I have advanced technology". They all sounds very seriosly and they also are proof of that Lex sounds more serious than campy.
The delivery of some of those seemed very panto to me
 
Cinemaman said:
Which? Or maybe you just want them to sound so?

*sighs* maybe you just want them to sound serious ? why can't you just accept a different opinion ?
 
hunter rider said:
*sighs* maybe you just want them to sound serious ? why can't you just accept a different opinion ?

Ok, but which sounds for you so?

You can see Spidey films and find some also strange things like gold coins in bank or talking manner of GG, which sounds a bit stupid.
 
hunter rider said:
*sighs* maybe you just want them to sound serious ? why can't you just accept a different opinion ?
(gasps)Cinemaman accept another opinion? Never.
 
Cinemaman said:
Ok, but which sounds for you so?

You can see Spidey films and find some also strange things like gold coins in bank or talking manner of GG, which sounds a bit stupid.
Gold coins? Huh?
 
I SEE SPIDEY said:
(gasps)Cinemaman accept another opinion? Never.

I think you began the whole this argue, but you didnt explain me why all scenes of Luthor looks campy...
 
Cinemaman said:
Ok, but which sounds for you so?

You can see Spidey films and find some also strange things like gold coins in bank or talking manner of GG, which sounds a bit stupid.

Well you have basically posted snippets as oposed to the full line
for instance the "I have advanced technology". has more to it than that including the "billions" comment and then is followed with the whole "Bring it on" and the entire "Wrong" skipping scene
 
hunter rider said:
Well you have basically posted snippets as oposed to the full line
for instance the "I have advanced technology". has more to it than that including the "billions" comment and then is followed with the whole "Bring it on" and the entire "Wrong" skipping scene

Thats it? Only one scene. You can find almost in every comic book adaptation some strange scenes like this.
 
I SEE SPIDEY said:
What do the coins do?

I dont think you are stupid dude, but...

Ok, there were gold coins, which appeared in a bank robbery scene.

It is strange, becaue gold coins were in banks of past century.

So you cant find any bank with gold coins.
 
Cinemaman said:
Thats it? Only one scene. You can find almost in every comic book adaptation some strange scenes like this.

That was 2 scenes maybe 3 and how many can you find in reverse ? we have only seen a bit of footage,why is it you want to argue this ?
 

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