Logan Logan - news & discussion - Part 3

[marvelrobbins]

The internet is now going wild with the logan isn't set in X-Men universe.and it's all fueled by what jackman himself said.

what exactly contunity are they bound by..DOFP erased original trilogy,origins,and the wolverine from timeline.so let's say logan is set after events of future ending of DOFP.for immedate future they aren't putting wolverine in other film and might not till there is reboot though they may recast wolverine eventully.If logan is canon any future film with mcavoy as xavier has to deal with fact we saw likely end of Xavier in logan.in fact i say
it's more other films that could be hhurt by logan than other way around if logan is canon to other x films.

 

[Smilodon]

Why does it have to be this complicated? Why can't it just make sense without a dozen different explanations.

It's not. People just like panicking. DOFP ends in 2023, Logan takes place several years in 2029. Why? Because Jim and Hugh want to explore some different territory compared to the other films. It's that simple.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

The internet is now going wild with the logan isn't set in X-Men universe

 

[EnDz0n3]

It's not. People just like panicking. DOFP ends in 2023, Logan takes place several years in 2029. Why? Because Jim and Hugh want to explore some different territory compared to the other films. It's that simple.

Maybe that's what Hugh should've done: doubled down on what Mangold (?) said.

Instead most sites will misconstrue his "slightly different universe" or outright use the headline as a clickbait.

 

[Xrated48]

It's called fake news guys

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

It's called fake news guys

Confusing News: Hugh Jackman Says LOGAN Will NOT Be Set In The X-Men Movie Universe

Logan is not set in the same universe as the X-Men movies, says ...

Logan is NOT set in the regular X-Men universe

Hugh Jackman Says Logan Is Set In Different Universe From X-Men Films


LoL

 

[def28]

Did anyone really think this wasn't gonna happen at some point?

We have been arguing over the horrible planning in this series for years now. It's a mess that has now gotten out of hand far too much.

Good on them for admitting it,and moving away if they needed to.

well now i can just pretend before reynolds and deadpool writers decide to say it that deadpool and X-force isn't in same universe as X_Men films.they view X-Men as one big joke anyway.That is why i wasn't as thrilled with colossus In Deadpool as others.he was just a joke and punching bag for the villains.at least now none of deaths In Logan will
matter for future films In franchise which for me are X-Men:Supernove,new mutants,and if it gets made gambit.

The X-Men films ****ed themselves over countless times. Deadpool is one film, and exactly the way it should be. Nobody is forcing the movies like Apocalypse, X-Men Origins and X3 to look like a joke except the X-Men filmmakers, and unlike Deadpool it's not in a fun way and hurt the franchise.

 

[BlackFox]

"These timelines are so confusing" - Deadpool

 

[Roose Bolton]

Messers Connery, Moore & Dalton all played very different people with little to no relation to the fellows that portrayed Jimmy before them. It's not so much loose continuity as it is no continuity for the Bond series.

It's the same man, they all reference having lost Tracy in On Her Majesty's Secret Service and each time a new M comes in they reference the previous one (Robert Lee's painting is shown in TWINE). Their performances and portrayals were different, but EON envisions the first 20 films as all happening to the same man.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Did anyone really think this wasn't gonna happen at some point?

We have been arguing over the horrible planning in this series for years now. It's a mess that has now gotten out of hand far too much.

Good on them for admitting it,and moving away if they needed to.


The X-Men films ****ed themselves over countless times. Deadpool is one film, and exactly the way it should be. Nobody is forcing the movies like Apocalypse, X-Men Origins and X3 to look like a joke except the X-Men filmmakers, and unlike Deadpool it's not in a fun way and hurt the franchise.

you may find it hard to believe but some X-Men fans don't think don't think deadpool is greatest film of all time or think deadpool is be all of x universe.

nobody hear is defending last stand or origins but some who want to piss on
franchise inless it's deadpool doesn't want to let it go.

colossus is nothing more than one big joke ind eadpool and punching bag for villains.and deadpool does same except thing that others complain about other films piss on contunity.

 

[psylockolussus]

Maybe it is set in the Ultimate or Noir reality.

 

[TheVileOne]

Guys, I just wouldn't worry about it. The continuity has already been screwed six ways to Sunday by the last two X-Men movies.

So I would just say, Logan is Logan and try to enjoy it that way. It looks like it's a final sendoff to the Hugh Jackman version of Wolverine.

 

[psylockolussus]

I wonder if we will see Wolverine in a film that is set in the original X-Men continuity. So this is basically like Old Man Logan since Old Man Logan isn't Wolverine 616.

 

[Smilodon]

you may find it hard to believe but some X-Men fans don't think don't think deadpool is greatest film of all time or think deadpool is be all of x universe.

nobody hear is defending last stand or origins but some who want to piss on
franchise inless it's deadpool doesn't want to let it go.

colossus is nothing more than one big joke ind eadpool and punching bag for villains.and deadpool does same except thing that others complain about other films piss on contunity.

No one is saying DP is the best X-film to date. But your constant attempts to discredit DP somehow by saying it creates continuity errors (which it doesn't, it exists in the present day where there is yet anything to be established) or treats Colossus badly (which it doesn't. He's a straight man to Wade in this film and isn't a punching bag for the villains) needs to stop. Not wanting DP to be the engine that drives the X-universe right now is a totally fine opinion, but you're really grasping at straws by saying Ryan and co. view the X-Men as a joke because Deadpool treats them as a joke. Deadpool is supposed to do that. They've established themselves as understanding the characters, the world and the film they're supposed to be writing for well, and have created a film that displays that. That's all that people are saying.

If Reese/Wernick were to write an X-Men film and treated Colossus and other characters as if they were in a Deadpool-led Deadpool film, then sure people might have valid issues. Or if they mess up Domino or Cable or any other notable X-character that they get their hands on because they don't understand what makes them work. But you're really just going down a slippery slope right now. Especially when you say you're gonna try to ignore X-Force if it's stuff you don't like.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

Fox haters incoming -.-

 

[Ivan Drago]

I think people are blowing what Jackman said out of proportion. Logan does hint at what happened between DOFP and the events in Logan. It's in the same continuity, just that the movie is stand alone.

 

[Ryan1210]

Is Mangold confirming Logan will be G-rated or is he joking???

 

[Marvel]

you may find it hard to believe but some X-Men fans don't think don't think deadpool is greatest film of all time or think deadpool is be all of x universe.

Personally, I liked Deadpool well enough but it wasn't even the best X-film of 2016 let alone all-time. Deadpool is a fun one-note shallow lark, nothing more.

The real X-Men universe needs to be MUCH more than that.

 

[BMM]

I think people are blowing what Jackman said out of proportion.

Agreed.


Also, they just played the first scene of the trailer during SNL.

 

[Sithborg]

I will never understand this need to downplay Deadpool in this forum.

 

[def28]

you may find it hard to believe but some X-Men fans don't think don't think deadpool is greatest film of all time or think deadpool is be all of x universe.

Like Smilidon said, I was not saying everyone needs to think it's the greatest film ever. I'm saying that film was never supposed to be an X-Men film. Nor should have been. It was supposed to be a Deadpool film, which should be obvious.

You are now trying to blame a 50m Deadpool film Fox never thought would be big for the past X-Men films mistakes. Which at this point is just coming across as jealousy in it's success.

colossus is nothing more than one big joke ind eadpool and punching bag for villains.and deadpool does same except thing that others complain about other films piss on contunity.

Are you really ignoring the fact the fans were actually happy cause he talked for once. Which gives him a huge edge over the X-Men films. He was even more so a punching bag in DOFP. There only to die, Singer never had any interest in the character at all. At least in Deadpool he not only beat the crap out of the hero, but actually showed some variety in fighting, and you know communicated with characters. Doesn't it bother you that test audiences had no idea that Colossus was an X-Men? That has to do with how poorly the X-Men films handled him.

Deadpool was also able to take one of the lamest characters in the X-Men universe and make her a fan favorite. Enough so that Marvel comics changed her up to be more like the film in the comics. So give me a break with that.

As for continuity, Deadpool didn't do it any injustice. Because guess what? The X-Men films for the past 17 years never relied on Deadpool! This has to do more with you looking for someone else to blame other then the series itself. Hugh Jackman just flat out said the X-Men series continuity and timelines are too difficult to deal with...and then somehow you blame the Deadpool film. I don't get it.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Also, they just played the first scene of the trailer during SNL.

Cool. Hopefully Canadian TV shows it too.

 

[Smilodon]

Mangold also tweeted that the film is set in 2029 and people are just click-baiting again.

Was the SNL clip an actual bit from the film?

 

[def28]

Mangold also tweeted that the film is set in 2029 and people are just click-baiting again.

Was the SNL clip an actual bit from the film?

There was something shown tonight?

 

[EnDz0n3]

Is Mangold confirming Logan will be G-rated or is he joking???

LOL the man in the tweet is Sean Spicer, Trump's new White House Press Secretary.

In his first address to the WH Press Corps, Spicer made a patently false statement, that the crowd at Trump's Inauguration on Friday was the "largest audience ever to witness an inauguration. Period."

One needs only to look at the large swaths of empty space from overhead shots of the Washington Monument from that day to know that he's just talking out of his ass.

The rather bizarre press conference (and that statement in particular has become something of a meme).