Logan Logan - news & discussion - Part 3

[def28]

When characters are being used in countless films and crossing over there needs to be a general idea. Otherwise we will have 5 Jubilee's, 10 Emma Frosts, 15 Calibans etc

They can't be a 100% standalone films completely isolating themselves from the franchise. It's impossible. The X-Men universe is too vast and these characters will show up elsewhere especially with multiple films a year. A general idea/overview shouldn't even be up for debate, it's required. As well as communication.

 

[GuestStar2004]

They can't be a 100%standalone films. It's impossible. The X-Men universe is too vast and these characters will show up elsewhere especially with multiple films a year.

Well no its not really impossible, if they wanna make gambit movies and not have him ever mix with other known characters they very easily have that option.

 

[def28]

Well no its not really impossible, if they wanna make gambit movies and not have him ever mix with other known characters they very easily have that option.

Nope.

You think someone within the next 5 years won't want to use Gambit in another film. We have seen enough in this franchise to know that way of thinking is wrong.

If they want to make a new actual effort to keep everyone seperate maybe that is a possibility, but that would be just flat out stupid. He's gonna be interacting with other X-Men characters at some point, just like Deadpool, Wolverine and every other character do.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Nope.

You think someone within the next 5 years someone won't want to use Gambit in another film. You are wrong.

Chances are they are gonna make a solo movie so then they can make a sequel (Gambit 2) and another sequel (Gambit 3), so gambit will be used either way so who exactly are you thinking is gonna want to use gambit other then in solo movies? X-FORCE maybe but i wouldn't say that was for sure just like X23 at this point.

Singer wanted to use Gambit for Apocalypse but he didn't because Gambit was getting a solo movie.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Actually it'd be cool for each of the X-Men to have their stand alones (and much needed time in the spotlight) alternating with team-up films. That way the team-up X-Men films won't have 1-2 clear leads with everyone else being shallow glorified extras.

If Fox wants to make Gambit, Storm, Magneto, Rogue, Colossus, Jubilee, ect solos in between the team-ups in the same vein as Deadpool and Logan I'd be all for it.

 

[def28]

Chances are they are gonna make a solo movie so then they can make a sequel (Gambit 2) and another sequel (Gambit 3), so gambit will be used so who exactly are you thinking is gonna want to use gambit in their movie?

Singer wanted to use Gambit for Apocalypse but he didn't because Gambit was getting a solo movie.

People who make X-Men movies.
Gambit was rumored to be in something just about every year until XMOW and then his solo was rumored ever since.

Cause you know, he's a well known X-Men and X-Factor character. And interacts with other characters from the X-Men universe pretty much all the time.

But yeah, lets not allow him to interact with characters from the X-Men universe, that makes perfect sense.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Don't under value and underestimate the power of the stand alone film. They only amplify the team-ups. That's a page they can take from Disney.

 

[GuestStar2004]

People who make X-Men movies

Cause you know, he's an X-Men and X-Factor character. And interacts with other characters from the X-Men universe.

So why is he getting a solo movie and not being added as part of the team? just so they can do an avengers type move with him? that why he has only been on screen once in 16 years and it was just to set up a potential solo movie in Origins?

Look there are so many characters in this universe that gambit is not a requirement, they could indeed use him in X-Men,X-force or even another team altogether but it is certainly not impossible we will get 3 gambit movies in the next 7 years with no involvement in a team movie.

 

[def28]

Don't under value and underestimate the power of the stand alone film. They only amplify the team-ups. That's a page they can take from Disney.

Well according to some that's not a possibility cause every film needs to be a standalone without any real connection to the other films and can't have characters crossing over.

Which will totally help this series make more sense

 

[GuestStar2004]

Don't under value and underestimate the power of the stand alone film. They only amplify the team-ups. That's a page they can take from Disney.

Thats basically thinking FOX see it in the same way as disney and yet most of this thread has been complaining that FOX don't seem to be following that route lol

Its ironic because they have got a tv show planned that is lightly in the X-Men film universe and then they also have a tv show aring soon thats not in the same universe and some are saying huh whats the point of it then? I dunno should we ask fox?

 

[Ivan Drago]

Don't under value and underestimate the power of the stand alone film. They only amplify the team-ups. That's a page they can take from Disney.

For some reason I read this in Darth Vader's voice t:

 

[BlueLanternKal]

For some reason I read this in Darth Vader's voice t:

You weren't reading my posts like that before?

 

[GuestStar2004]

Well according to some that's not a possibility cause every film needs to be a standalone without any real connection to the other films and can't have characters crossing over.

Hey you was the one that stated it was impossible that they could treat them like stand alones but its not impossible, its not preferred way to go from a fanbase point of view but its not impossible.

 

[magneto23]

Don't under value and underestimate the power of the stand alone film. They only amplify the team-ups. That's a page they can take from Disney.

They are totally going to do this with Gambit and X-Force.

 

[def28]

Hey you was the one that stated it was impossible that they could treat them like stand alones but its not impossible, its not preferred way to go from a fanbase point of view but its not impossible.

It completely is, and nobody is going to do that. They would have to go far out of their way to make an absolutely horrible decision.

That's like saying just cause they made Deadpool, they will go out of their way to make sure he's not on X-Force. Why? What would they gain out of any of that?

 

[Filmfan93]

For some reason I read this in Darth Vader's voice t:

We all did, mate. We all did.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Another thing would be like X23, its hard to say whether they have a plan there for her since mangold makes it sound like there hasn't been much thought put in but obviously if she goes down well there then fox will probably do something with her right? but then the question is what? X-FORCE? Solo movies?

 

[marvelrobbins]

Another thing would be like X23, its hard to say whether they have a plan there for her since mangold makes it sound like there hasn't been much thought put in but obviously if she goes down well there then fox will probably do something with her right? but then the question is what? X-FORCE? Solo movies?

x-23 would likely be on X-force.

I take opposite approach than others.after logan excpet for deadpool 2 and 3 and if they ever get gambit off the ground there shouldn't be any more solo
films.

 

[2kt09]

Actually it'd be cool for each of the X-Men to have their stand alones (and much needed time in the spotlight) alternating with team-up films. That way the team-up X-Men films won't have 1-2 clear leads with everyone else being shallow glorified extras.

If Fox wants to make Gambit, Storm, Magneto, Rogue, Colossus, Jubilee, ect solos in between the team-ups in the same vein as Deadpool and Logan I'd be all for it.

eh...I draw the line at a Gambit solo only because he comes with his own set of characters and whatnot.
The same applies to Wolverine and Deadpool.

The team-up movies have worked as well as they have because there was always 1-2 mutants driving the main story,
so they were already developing those guys enough as is.
When you do something like Apocalypse, that script has to be on point as you're constantly switching between various POV's, characters, and teams.
DOFP mostly had to juggle with the OT team (not nearly as much to develop there), Mystique on her own, and the rag-tag group trying to stop her

 

[GuestStar2004]

That's like saying just cause they made Deadpool, they will go out of their way to make sure he's not on X-Force. Why? What would they gain out of any of that?

Just think Deadpool actually wasn't in the Original conceived X-FORCE Movie, or at least thats what Concept art showed and that was only canceled because of Apocalypse.

Why are they making solo movies out of any of these characters at all, why did they wanna do it in 2009? i dunno ask FOX because they know which characters they wanna do solo movies with and most of the time they get put on a shelve while they wait to decide when it enters production.

I ain't saying its impossible Gambit will be in a team movie but its certainly not impossible the creative team may just wanna concentrate on him as a solo character. prefered no, possible yes.

 

[GuestStar2004]

x-23 would likely be on X-force.

It doesn't sound like that was the idea behind it if you take in what Mangold has said since FOX didn't even know who she was but its still possible.

 

[marvelrobbins]

with all the moaning of contunity by some others are fine with it if it suits their
purpose.

people are like screw DOFP so they can have colossus with magik in 1980's set new mutants.or they can put icemanrogue in 1990's set X_Men film but then
they are like nope fox shouldn't ever replace jackman as wolverine.now already fox erased two thirds of jackman's time as wolverine with DOFP.If
you say screw DOFP there goes logan too and character of X-23 too.

there are even some who want fox to just ignore all X-Men films and wolverine films and make deadpool first film of series with deadpool as the stark of X-Men franchise.if your going to play that game why couldn't they have just said last stand and origins never happened instead of first class trilogy.

DOFP was best reviewed film in series and biggest X-Men film WW but some are now like screw DOFP.

 

[def28]

I ain't saying its impossible Gambit will be in a team movie but its certainly not impossible the creative team may just wanna concentrate on him as a solo character. prefered no, possible yes.

Without any interaction from X-Men characters (heros and villains) for three films? Not gonna happen. Fox doesn't have that option.

Even if Gambit was only solo films, there will still be X-Men characters of some sort showing up. That's what I'm getting at. Either way you break it down, it's not gonna happen. There isn't one X-Men films or spinoff that has not featured an X-Men characters or villain.

XMOW: Deadpool, Gambit, Blob, Emma Frost, Cyclopcs, Prof X etc
The Wolverine: Jean Grey, Prof X, Magneto
Deadpool: Colossus, NTW
Logan: Prof X, X-23, Caliban

 

[marvelrobbins]

It doesn't sound like that was the idea behind it if you take in what Mangold has said since FOX didn't even know who she was but its still possible.

i am aware of that.but if fox decides to use X-23 again that is likely destination
for her.X-Men films will continue to be set in past.

 

[marvelrobbins]

eh...I draw the line at a Gambit solo only because he comes with his own set of characters and whatnot.
The same applies to Wolverine and Deadpool.

The team-up movies have worked as well as they have because there was always 1-2 mutants driving the main story,
so they were already developing those guys enough as is.
When you do something like Apocalypse, that script has to be on point as you're constantly switching between various POV's, characters, and teams.
DOFP mostly had to juggle with the OT team (not nearly as much to develop there), Mystique on her own, and the rag-tag group trying to stop her

exactly the solo films need to stop with wolverine,deadpool and gambit if it is ever made.