Logan Logan - news & discussion - Part 3

[Leo Zelinsky]

Mr. Sinister has nothing to do with this flick, that I know for sure. So I'm not sure how accurate those spoilers are.

Did your guy respond?

 

[Smilodon]

The main thing I'm not 100% buying is the certain special effects being used, as I imagine it would cost quite a bit more than what a 120 million film could produce.

I am more certain that [blackout] Sinister is the villain for X-Force/Cable's nemesis. [/blackout]

I really that hope that certain special effect portion isn't true, everything else sounds fine and dandy, and even fits in with what some people were theorizing about the film. It's fairly logical and in tune with what we know about the characters involved thus far.

This film, while grounded in realism, definitely seems to utilize its budget, however big it actually is. The practicality and complexity of the action from what we've seen and read seems to be just heads and shoulders above what Deadpool seems to have done, and that doesn't even count what they've done in studio. It would seem to take a sizable chunk of budget using those effects.

 

[Ivan Drago]

Did your guy respond?

Still waiting. Last time I asked him something it took him like four days to message me back. I'll let yall know when he responds.

I did ask him about a week ago if we see Wolverine's comicbook costume in Logan, he said [BLACKOUT]no[/BLACKOUT]

 

[EnDz0n3]

Pretty much anyone can tell what that blackened area is

 

[Roose Bolton]

I really that hope that certain special effect portion isn't true, everything else sounds fine and dandy, and even fits in with what some people were theorizing about the film. It's fairly logical and in tune with what we know about the characters involved thus far.

This film, while grounded in realism, definitely seems to utilize its budget, however big it actually is. The practicality and complexity of the action from what we've seen and read seems to be just heads and shoulders above what Deadpool seems to have done, and that doesn't even count what they've done in studio. It would seem to take a sizable chunk of budget using those effects.

I don't so much hate the idea of that particular...character...it's more that I'm not sure that it's achievable (at the current point where the technology is at) on a comparatively smaller budget than its been used elsewhere.

I mean it's a film dealing with cloning and cyborg mercenaries, so [blackout] Logan fighting a clone of himself [/blackout] doesn't seem out of place to me.

 

[manosho]

So I've come across spoilers pertaining the third act. They seem pretty accurate with everything I've heard, but you never know.

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The Transigen program has been creating clones of Logan to be used as living weapons, but they rapidly deteriorate after a couple of days. Dr. Zander Rice circumvents that problem by having Laura be gestated by one of the nurses at the complex. The plan works, but the nurse grows affectionate to Laura and escapes with her, hoping that Logan can escort them to a safe location. Donald Pierce and the Reavers are sent after her and kill her mother before Laura comes under Logan's and Xavier's protection.

Xavier was responsible for the near-extermination of the mutants, having lost control of his powers while telepathically connected to them through Cerebro. Logan was able to survive due to his healing factor. Rice simultaneously accidentally created a virus through his genetic experiments which caused mutant birth rates to significantly plummet to the point where Logan believes Caliban, Xavier and himself are the only ones left.

Rice ultimately sends X-24, an adult male clone of Logan, to assist Pierce. X-24 has a buzzcut, no beard and is played by a digitally de-aged Hugh Jackman, similarly to Michael Douglas in Ant-Man or Robert Downey Jr. in Iron Man.

Xavier is killed in the third act, leading to a final battle between Logan and Laura against their pursuers. Logan sustains heavy damage fighting X-24. Over the course of the movie, Logan rediscovers his humanity and grows closer to Laura, who becomes his surrogate daughter. The movie ends with Logan alive, but severely injured and with the clear implication that due to his healing factor fading, he doesn't have much time to life, but will spend what's left of his days protecting Laura. The final scene features them driving off into the sunset.

While there are no direct references to previous movies, some of the dead X-Men are briefly mentioned in passing by Xavier and Logan, and Rice often reports to an unseen, unheard superior over the phone, who could be Mister Sinister.

I don´t like it

 

[kloker]

I don´t like it

Me too.

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A clone of Wolverine as the final opponent, really ?

 

[Ryan1210]

Yeah I don't like it either. I was hoping for Daken or Lady Deathstrike haha.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I don't see what's wrong with it ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[LoganPool]

Calling it now... if this is true:

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the de-aged clone of Logan will wear the suit!

 

[OutOfBoose]

I don´t like it

I don't like it either... Sigh. I had hopes for it.

 

[The Infernal]

Calling it now... if this is true:

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the de-aged clone of Logan will wear the suit!

That'd be funny. I wouldn't mind it, but I don't picture that happening. If it does

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then I feel like it would be more appropriate to have Logan in the costume fighting the young clone. It would be like saying that Logan needs that extra protection the suit gives, similar to comic Logan just before he was killed. Plus it would be nice to actually have the film suggest that the comic book in the film wasn't totally off base and there did exist a more conic accurate X-men in the Foxverse somewhere as well as a bad ass third act showdown/send off for Wolverine.

I don't see it happening though. I expect the Reavers to be the third act showdown, as low key as their cybernetics seem.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I don't like it either... Sigh. I had hopes for it.

So...you gonna change your sig to "Pray for Logan fans" ?

 

[OutOfBoose]

So...you gonna change your sig to "Pray for Logan fans" ?

No, but I hoped for something more interesting than [BLACKOUT]"attack of the clones"[/BLACKOUT].

 

[Roose Bolton]

No, but I hoped for something more interesting than [BLACKOUT]"attack of the clones"[/BLACKOUT].

X-23 has been a main character of this story from the start, we knew that from the very first set pics. [blackout] cloning [/blackout] is a massive part of the X-23 storyline and was always going to be addressed in one form or another. Why does this cross the line for you?

 

[GuestStar2004]

If this information is true it won't make or break the movie, it could be a cool fight.

it would explain that show in the trailer where logan blocks some claws, infact it probably adds up to a fair bit if this is true.

Also if the stuff about Xavier and the incident with powers is true that sucks.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Calling it now... if this is true:

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the de-aged clone of Logan will wear the suit!

Well the description doesn't say that so i imagine probably not, it just says

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he has a buzzcut

 

[GuestStar2004]

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X-force could say cable arriving in present prevented future seen In logan from happening.which would mean mangold film has been screwed over by kinberg again lol

You know that it sounds like he will be in Deadpool 2 first right?

The main thing I'm not 100% buying is the certain special effects being used, as I imagine it would cost quite a bit more than what a 120 million film could produce.

Well 120 million is more then enough to produce some cool stuff, heck even the deapool budget gave us a CGI colossus and a fairly effect filled final

Jackman also apparenly took a pay cut even though if 120 mil is true it shouldn't be laughed at.

 

[OutOfBoose]

X-23 has been a main character of this story from the start, we knew that from the very first set pics. [blackout] cloning [/blackout] is a massive part of the X-23 storyline and was always going to be addressed in one form or another. Why does this cross the line for you?

I'm fine with X-23. [BLACKOUT]But yet another clone?[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Roose Bolton]

I'm fine with X-23. [BLACKOUT]But yet another clone?[/BLACKOUT]

Well, she's called X-23 for a reason. Even in the comics she isn't the only one, it's a part of the mythos. What does it hurt? I mean it's not like this character is the main villain. It's a physical threat and it ties in well with not only Logan's attempts to escape his past as Weapon X, but it's also a living example of what he's got to protect Laura from becoming.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Also if the stuff about Xavier and the incident with powers is true that sucks.

This is Wolverine's X-Men universe.

Wolverine gets Cyclops girl

Wolverine kills the Phoenix

Wolverine times travels in DoFP instead of Shadowcat

Wolverine's not in Apocalypse but helps saves the X-Men in his cameo


There is ZERO chance FoX would let X-Man

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actually kill his sidekicks the X-Men

 

[Zarex]

Well 120 million is more then enough to produce some cool stuff, heck even the deapool budget gave us a CGI colossus and a fairly effect filled final

The Deadpool budget was stretched quite a bit by Tim Miller, who did a lot of the work in house for little cost at his company, Blur Studios.

 

[GuestStar2004]

The Deadpool budget was stretched quite a bit by Tim Miller, who did a lot of the work in house for little cost at his company, Blur Studios.

So $58 million > $120 million

Logan can afford these effects

 

[LoganPool]

I, too, at first didn't like what I was reading. But the more I think about it, the more I think it sounds pretty bad@$$. I'm excited! Hope it's true!

 

[marvelrobbins]

You know that it sounds like he will be in Deadpool 2 first right?

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they may very well say cable in present in Deadpool 2 erases future we see In Logan.now it is kind of hard to have X-23 in present day X_force if she is 11 In 2029 Logan but i guess they could pull the changing timeline causes character to be born earleir again.but main thing they would say is cable somehow prevents the future where xavier causes deaths of so many mutants