Lord of the Advice: Return of the King of Relationships

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Ok, now comic chick is starting to drive me nuts. Its NOT even 5 and she is texting me AGAIN! AND SHE IS STILL AT WORK!!!! WTF? I thought when she said she is going to text me, it was going to be at around 830-9!! And she is telling me what she has to do to finish her shift and then she says she is free! I think she wants me to ask her to go out for a bite to eat and a drink! WTF? I am already seeing her tomorrow and Friday! Is this not enough? I will drive her home both nights, so we will chat all the way home and prob park in front of her place and chat some more. What exactly am I suppose to text her about?

She is getting clingy and we are just friends!(or are we?) But I DO like the attention!

I bet tomorrow on her day off, she is going to text me at work! I dont understand how she likes to text me everyday! She needs a hobby that is not me.
This happens to me with my friend/maybe more. She seems to want to talk to me all the time and I'm way to nonconforming to do this so it looks like I'm being a jerk if I don't text her back right away (sometimes I take a day or two). I think some women need that constant chatter type of guys. I'm just not it.
 
You don't know many 20-year-olds, do you? :oldrazz:

There will be likely MUCH more of this if you bed her, keep that in mind. Gotta keep up if you wanna stay young! :hehe:
Yeah, quite honestly, that sounds like every twenty something on my phone. Sleeping with them doesn't usually help :dry:. I learned a long time ago to ignore half of it, because frankly most of it's for attention, and if you don't feed their attention right away that's mostly what gets them to try harder with a guy at that age.
 
Well, then if what you are saying is true, then I am lucky to have fling girl and I can concentrate on her! I will see comic chick tomorrow and Friday. Thats enough for me.
But I think you guys are trying to rush comic chick. I am in no such hurry. If she is into me, she will let me know, if not, then I have fling girl! SO its all good! win win!
 
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Urgh, I totally missed the perfect chance to ask out this girl at work today. We were alone in the staff room drinking tea and talking all geeky about stuff and I was like "can I make this awkward?" with the full intention of asking her for food, and she was like "o...k...?" and then I froze and became a landshark. Then she became a landshark. Then someone came in the room and asked us what the hell we were doing.

:lmao:

At least you know she's as weird as you.
 
Urgh, I totally missed the perfect chance to ask out this girl at work today. We were alone in the staff room drinking tea and talking all geeky about stuff and I was like "can I make this awkward?" with the full intention of asking her for food, and she was like "o...k...?" and then I froze and became a landshark. Then she became a landshark. Then someone came in the room and asked us what the hell we were doing.

For next time, write down exactly what it was you were going to say to her. Then when you are in the appropriate situation and if you freeze up again, you can just pass her the note.
If she is as geeky as you say, it should go well. :yay:

Damn! Wish I had thought of this 20 years ago...
 
OK, I got the comic chick figured out. She is a typical 20 something female. She loves to text, she admitted that. She likes the attention she gets from our little group. We are friends, we have become close. Unless she tells me something like "there is more than meets the eye here" then thats all we are.

All she is doing is being a typical female her age. All the attention she is giving me means nothing. I will still bed her if given the chance, but thats prob not going to happen. I REALLY hope she texts me Thursday, because I will be with fling girl and I am going to turn off my phone! LOL

So now I get it. Our age spread = thats where the heart ache will occur. I will get older, her relationship needs will change. She would eventually leave me for a younger man.

SO fling girl is the future.

Thats it. I am still going to see comic chick Friday night, but now I am going to be foot loose and fancy free. I dont care what she thinks, I am going to be me!

Thank you to everyone for lending a hand to opening my eyes. Even though I am so old, I still cant make logical choices when I am emotional involved. Its sort of like why Batman can take down guys at Darksieds power level but struggles with the Joker. He has more invested in the Joker and the Joker hits closer to home, emotionally.

I get it!
 
OK, I got the comic chick figured out. She is a typical 20 something female. She loves to text, she admitted that. She likes the attention she gets from our little group. We are friends, we have become close. Unless she tells me something like "there is more than meets the eye here" then thats all we are.

All she is doing is being a typical female her age. All the attention she is giving me means nothing. I will still bed her if given the chance, but thats prob not going to happen. I REALLY hope she texts me Thursday, because I will be with fling girl and I am going to turn off my phone! LOL
...

...I get it!
To me, it sounds like you do. Just a heads up, although you seem to be somewhat aware of this already, don't be surprised if you stop responding to her texts or seem to become more involved with the other girl that she doesn't start trying harder if you know what I'm getting at ;).

That's honestly the way [a lot] of twenty somethings operate, especially when they are hot. The thing to take home about them is they really can be clingy, and they're going to want more what they can't have. For them, even sometimes the most well intentioned attention just fades away into the a sea of feedle attempts at getting in their pants they've heard that day. So that's more or less the complex you see at that age. They enjoy male attention, but aren't really discriminate about who they get it from. This doesn't mean they'll sleep with just anyone though (although there are some).
 
For next time, write down exactly what it was you were going to say to her. Then when you are in the appropriate situation and if you freeze up again, you can just pass her the note.
If she is as geeky as you say, it should go well. :yay:

Damn! Wish I had thought of this 20 years ago...

Are we sure that getting a note passed to you from a 23 year old guy isn't just the slightest bit pathetic?
 
It doesn't have to be this perfect time just ask her out?
 
Are we sure that getting a note passed to you from a 23 year old guy isn't just the slightest bit pathetic?
A lot of things that seem pathetic actually work quite well. There's nothing wrong with making some memorable impression. I once wrote someone's number on my forearm with a big, thick sharpy marker because I didn't have anything else on me. She thought it was funny and "very high school". So it doesn't have to be perfect, and they'll never be a perfect moment.
 
If I do not respond to her texts immediately and do not give the current level of attention, you are saying she will increase the attention she gives me? But it will signify nothing?

I will say that, in our little group, I am getting the main blunt of her attention. I doubt and am pretty certain she does not text the others to the same extent as me. It's almost everyday now and I am seeing her tonight and alone on Friday.

And this girl is not hot, she is very plain, which is prob why she likes the attention. She does not get noticed when out in public.

What I fail to understand is WHY 20 somethings females act this way? To me it would mean that they like a guy and want to jump into a relationship with him, otherwise why bother spending all this time with them. It seems like mixed messages. Please correct me if I am wrong.

There are other single women in our group, yet I do not text them and hardly interact with them. When I do interact with them (that is rare) it is within the context of the group and it is in a very superficial manner. They do the same to me. I have never seen them alone, never texted them, rarely interacted with them.
 
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If I do not respond to her texts immediately and do not give the current level of attention, you are saying she will increase the attention she gives me? But it will signify nothing?
Once you're actually going on a date (which it seems you have a little something Friday anyways) it's probably not good to continue that kind of a game since it involves a lot of non communication (of course if you want to bed them quickly it has some effectiveness there). It's also not necessary on someone who is not playing games with you. Like say someone asks you out. There's many out there -- and she shows some of this from what I've read -- that are pretty clueless as to what they are looking for so they just kind of flirt with whomever. Especially guys who will give them free attention, because that's what they are looking for; attention.

It's not that it means nothing -- it's just that when girls send off those kind of wishy washy "oh I dunno" signals they probably want something cheap and easy. They aren't exactly at a point where they are ready or necessarily want a relationship. F*** them long enough, as you might say has been going on with Fling Girl, and that casual sex, for better or worse, may become some sort of relationship. I can't say.
And this girl is not hot, she is very plain, which is prob why she likes the attention. She does not get noticed when out in public.
Are we talking Television's version of plain, or realities "maybe if she put a paper bag over her head" version of plain?
 
What I fail to understand is WHY 20 somethings females act this way? To me it would mean that they like a guy and want to jump into a relationship with him, otherwise why bother spending all this time with them. It seems like mixed messages. Please correct me if I am wrong.
This is why: She's twenty. She probably won't die for another 60 or 70 years (hell maybe 80+ with modern technology) so for her it's simply NOT a waste of time. She still, like myself even at 28, has plenty of time. She's probably well aware her next three relationships are likely to not be the man she marries.

At 40, the game is simply under a different set of rules. Even if you don't want marriage, you're time, not just because of your age, but because of your assumed level of responsibility, is much more valuable. Most twenty somethings aren't trying to pay mortgages, car loans, getting up at the buttcrack of dawn after 3 hours of sleep to go back into work, because no one expects that of them. You simply [probably] don't live in that world.
 
A lot of things that seem pathetic actually work quite well. There's nothing wrong with making some memorable impression. I once wrote someone's number on my forearm with a big, thick sharpy marker because I didn't have anything else on me. She thought it was funny and "very high school". So it doesn't have to be perfect, and they'll never be a perfect moment.

I see... Most interesting. I honestly thought that stuff like that would look really stupid outside of school. But hey, I'm rubbish at stuff anyhow so might as well give it a shot.
 
I see... Most interesting. I honestly thought that stuff like that would look really stupid outside of school. But hey, I'm rubbish at stuff anyhow so might as well give it a shot.
It's only stupid if you take it too seriously.

The way I look at it is if I say something stupid well, it's not the first time, sure as hell won't be the last, and if she wants to hang out with me, well, she's gonna have to get used to it. I'm much more concerned with being stupid than saying something stupid. I can apologize for what I say.

As for what I said about memorable impressions, well, really, the last thing you want is to be an afterthought in her mind. To be forgotten as soon as you leave. So maybe making a fool out of yourself routinely is bad, but it's also nothing to lose too much sleep over.
 
If I don't fancy a guy and he asks me out in a note... I think it's lame. I laugh about it with my friends later.

If I DO fancy a guy and he does that, I think it is the sweetest thing ever.

Basically, if she likes you, it'll go down well. If she doesn't, oh well, she was never going to date you anyway cause she wasn't interested.

It's not like asking someone out in a note is going to change a 'yes' into a 'no'.
 
Once you're actually going on a date (which it seems you have a little something Friday anyways) it's probably not good to continue that kind of a game since it involves a lot of non communication (of course if you want to bed them quickly it has some effectiveness there). It's also not necessary on someone who is not playing games with you. Like say someone asks you out. There's many out there -- and she shows some of this from what I've read -- that are pretty clueless as to what they are looking for so they just kind of flirt with whomever. Especially guys who will give them free attention, because that's what they are looking for; attention.

It's not that it means nothing -- it's just that when girls send off those kind of wishy washy "oh I dunno" signals they probably want something cheap and easy. They aren't exactly at a point where they are ready or necessarily want a relationship. F*** them long enough, as you might say has been going on with Fling Girl, and that casual sex, for better or worse, may become some sort of relationship. I can't say.

Are we talking Television's version of plain, or realities "maybe if she put a paper bag over her head" version of plain?

Very plain, not attractive at all. AT ALL, got it? She is not a head turner. She DOES NOT dress in trendy chick clothes, she wears crappy jeans and tee shirts. Never wears a skirt, never dolls herself up. No make up, but for me, because I know her, she has become more attractive.

And she is in her mid 20s, not 20.
 
OK, I got the comic chick figured out. She is a typical 20 something female. She loves to text, she admitted that. She likes the attention she gets from our little group. We are friends, we have become close. Unless she tells me something like "there is more than meets the eye here" then thats all we are.

All she is doing is being a typical female her age. All the attention she is giving me means nothing. I will still bed her if given the chance, but thats prob not going to happen. I REALLY hope she texts me Thursday, because I will be with fling girl and I am going to turn off my phone! LOL

So now I get it. Our age spread = thats where the heart ache will occur. I will get older, her relationship needs will change. She would eventually leave me for a younger man.

SO fling girl is the future.

Thats it. I am still going to see comic chick Friday night, but now I am going to be foot loose and fancy free. I dont care what she thinks, I am going to be me!

Thank you to everyone for lending a hand to opening my eyes. Even though I am so old, I still cant make logical choices when I am emotional involved. Its sort of like why Batman can take down guys at Darksieds power level but struggles with the Joker. He has more invested in the Joker and the Joker hits closer to home, emotionally.

I get it!

So fling girl is the future, but you're still going to try to bad comic girl. Not only that, you want to play little games to keep comic girl interested. I think if you actually want fling girl you're going to need to make her your priority. However, I don't think you do, you like the chase too much, you crave the drama and games. It's probably why you so attracted to comic girl right now, she's the chase, drama and games. It's why you call fling girl, fling girl, it's a title that provides a bit of challenge, she's shown every sign of wanting a real relationship, but that obviously scares you since you're constantly waiting for her to break up with you. You've got to grow up if you want a real relationship.
 
Very plain, not attractive at all. AT ALL, got it? She is not a head turner. She DOES NOT dress in trendy chick clothes, she wears crappy jeans and tee shirts. Never wears a skirt, never dolls herself up. No make up, but for me, because I know her, she has become more attractive.

And she is in her mid 20s, not 20.
Then I'm a bit perplexed as to why she vexes you so much:huh:? I mean is 'fling girl' a trainwreck or something? I mean if she's not that attractive then it seems to me like just being friends with her is the way to go. From your description it doesn't seem like you're head over heels ga-ga for comic girl either, in which case you can still hang out and it really doesn't have to be anything further. You'll have all the benefits of a relationship without any of the drawbacks.
 
What I fail to understand is WHY 20 somethings females act this way? To me it would mean that they like a guy and want to jump into a relationship with him, otherwise why bother spending all this time with them. It seems like mixed messages. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Just saying since I was once a young clueless 20-something who never got attention....Young clueless plain 20-somethings get excited about attention but are too scared to seal the deal.

If she never gets male attention, I assure you that she won't make the first move unless you do. She'll just latch onto the attention like it's a drug. But she won't seal the deal with you.

This is why: She's twenty. She probably won't die for another 60 or 70 years (hell maybe 80+ with modern technology) so for her it's simply NOT a waste of time. She still, like myself even at 28, has plenty of time. She's probably well aware her next three relationships are likely to not be the man she marries.
Considering I have a friend who has stage 4 pancreatic cancer at 30 (4% 5-year survival probability)....I wouldn't throw away a good potential relationship just because of the mantra "I'm young, I want to have fun." You just never know.

Not to say that you NEED to get into a serious relationship if you don't want one, but if you want one deep down but only figure that you should only date casually and keep looking and not settle down just because you're young, throwing away good potential relationships can be a mistake.

At any rate, I know a 21-year-old who wants nothing more than to get married and settle down. She jumped to a new guy she believes is The One from a breakup with a fiance in two weeks. She's not picky with guys. As long as you treat her well, she'd be happy being in a relationship with pretty much anyone. :funny: There really are girls like that out there.

If I don't fancy a guy and he asks me out in a note... I think it's lame. I laugh about it with my friends later.

If I DO fancy a guy and he does that, I think it is the sweetest thing ever.

Basically, if she likes you, it'll go down well. If she doesn't, oh well, she was never going to date you anyway cause she wasn't interested.

It's not like asking someone out in a note is going to change a 'yes' into a 'no'.
Exactamundo!

So fling girl is the future, but you're still going to try to bad comic girl. Not only that, you want to play little games to keep comic girl interested. I think if you actually want fling girl you're going to need to make her your priority. However, I don't think you do, you like the chase too much, you crave the drama and games. It's probably why you so attracted to comic girl right now, she's the chase, drama and games. It's why you call fling girl, fling girl, it's a title that provides a bit of challenge, she's shown every sign of wanting a real relationship, but that obviously scares you since you're constantly waiting for her to break up with you. You've got to grow up if you want a real relationship.
That's what I don't get about you Dreadstar. You're almost 50....what do you want in a relationship right now? You sound like you'd be fine with casually dating "fling girl" but are you mature enough to let her go first if comic girl throws herself naked in your bed? (Or if you talk her into doing that?) Cause sleeping around behind the back of a woman you're dating is gonna bite you in the ass. "Fling girl" would probably dump you, comic girl would be too scared to pursue anything serious and dump you too, and then you'd be alone.

If you're only looking for women to sleep with, that certainly could be an appropriate scenario for you. But you only seem to be riding the "two women find me attractive, I'm such a stud!" wave, and not thinking about how to get what YOU want out of this whole thing.
 
Err, I feel like giving up. Let's be honest, I'm almost 25.....very limited when it comes to experience. I dislike dating. Going out with someone who doesn't share my religious beliefs probably ain't a good idea. Am I crying? No, I haven't slept yet and bored. So I feel like ranting. Just a crazy ranger. iPhone auto corrected that I meant to type ranted. Ranted. Stop it iPhone. Ranter. Yea. I'm having a conversatation with my iPhone. Think I misspelled a word. I bet everybody hates my rants. Don't be Haters. Xoxo.
 
If I don't fancy a guy and he asks me out in a note... I think it's lame. I laugh about it with my friends later.

If I DO fancy a guy and he does that, I think it is the sweetest thing ever.

Basically, if she likes you, it'll go down well. If she doesn't, oh well, she was never going to date you anyway cause she wasn't interested.

It's not like asking someone out in a note is going to change a 'yes' into a 'no'.

Pretty much this.

A girl liking a guy is the difference between the guy's actions being "creepy" or "romantic" lol
 
Err, I feel like giving up. Let's be honest, I'm almost 25.....very limited when it comes to experience. I dislike dating. Going out with someone who doesn't share my religious beliefs probably ain't a good idea. Am I crying? No, I haven't slept yet and bored. So I feel like ranting. Just a crazy ranger. iPhone auto corrected that I meant to type ranted. Ranted. Stop it iPhone. Ranter. Yea. I'm having a conversatation with my iPhone. Think I misspelled a word. I bet everybody hates my rants. Don't be Haters. Xoxo.
Hugh Hefner was 25 when he lost his virginity. Isaac Newton died one. So, there is no making up for lost time, but once you actually, ya'know, start getting experience the past won't seem that long anymore.
 
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