The Amazing Spider-Man Marc Webb to return? - Part 1

Walking=Sony didn't try hard enough to get him back.

Sony acts like a selfish brat that wants what they only want. Spider-Man 3, certain ideas with The Amazing Spider-Man.

I highly doubt a studio such as Sony would try so much to keep a director. If that were the case, they wouldn't force their agenda with an already great director they had beforehand for Spidey.
 
I'm sorry, but they didn't.

He's directing Oz: The Great and Powerful now, lol.

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Sony acts like a selfish brat that wants what they only want. Spider-Man 3, certain ideas with The Amazing Spider-Man.

I highly doubt a studio such as Sony would try so much to keep a director. If that were the case, they wouldn't force their agenda with an already great director they had beforehand for Spidey.
Agreed. My point isn't that Raimi is a bad director, it's that just because it isn't guaranteed that Webb is coming back, it doesn't mean he was a bad director or that he made a bad movie. You can dislike the movie all you want, but it's not like it's fact that the movie is bad.
 
Sony acts like a selfish brat that wants what they only want. Spider-Man 3, certain ideas with The Amazing Spider-Man.

I highly doubt a studio such as Sony would try so much to keep a director. If that were the case, they wouldn't force their agenda with an already great director they had beforehand for Spidey.

I mean it was received better than Spider-Man 3, but it didn't make close to as much money as either of the three previous films with a 3D boost. Being Sonys biggest franchize even topping James Bond, it's not like "this was expected". I mean outside of the superherohype/comic community Andrew Garfield isn't the "definitive" Peter Parker or Spider-Man. People don't seem to understand that theres a certain level of bias that comes with familiarity to the source material.
 
Agreed. My point isn't that Raimi is a bad director, it's that just because it isn't guaranteed that Webb is coming back, it doesn't mean he was a bad director or that he made a bad movie. You can dislike the movie all you want, but it's not like it's fact that the movie is bad.

Trust me, you'd have an easier time teach a rock that
 
I mean it was received better than Spider-Man 3, but it didn't make close to as much money as either of the three previous films with a 3D boost. Being Sonys biggest franchize even topping James Bond, it's not like "this was expected". I mean outside of the superherohype/comic community Andrew Garfield isn't the "definitive" Peter Parker or Spider-Man. People don't seem to understand that theres a certain level of bias that comes with familiarity to the source material.
The general audience don't even know what's definitive about Peter or Spider-Man. That's why I call most people [insert director] FANS, instead of the actual comic book character FANS.

I had someone say to me, "why the hell is he (Spider-Man) wearing mechanical web-shooters, when he suppose to shoot webs out of his wrists?" :whatever:

I now know why Jesus weeps. :csad:
 
©KAW;24270529 said:
The general audience don't even know what's definitive about Peter or Spider-Man. That's why I call most people [insert director] FANS, instead of the actual comic book character FANS.

I had someone say to me, "why the hell is he (Spider-Man) wearing mechanical web-shooters, when he suppose to shoot webs out of his wrists?" :whatever:

I now know why Jesus weeps. :csad:

I certainly hope that person was 6 years old. -_-

Yeah that's a bit upsetting. Coming from someone who in 2002, at age 10, facepalmed the organics. That may, in fact, have been my very first facepalm.
 
©KAW;24270529 said:
The general audience don't even know what's definitive about Peter or Spider-Man. That's why I call most people [insert director] FANS, instead of the actual comic book character FANS.

I had someone say to me, "why the hell is he (Spider-Man) wearing mechanical web-shooters, when he suppose to shoot webs out of his wrists?" :whatever:

I now know why Jesus weeps. :csad:
A similar thing happened to me when I came out of Batman Begins .
A woman asked her boyfriend if he liked it,
He said , "it was great, except The Joker killed Bruce Waynes parents ".
 
Walked means walked. They had to have the movie out by 2012 and Raimi was adamant on keeping the Vulture and not having a repeat of 3. He left the project along with the entire crew and given the lack of progress over the past 2 years they had a plan b and didn't feel the need to negotiate. You act like Sony was somehow more pleased with Webb than him but they edited Webbs movie to hell and all three of Sams made significantly more money without inflation or 3D boosts. In short Walking does not equal fired.
I think you are talking to the wrong person here ;) haha!

And yeah, Sony was not happy with Webb as evident by the chopped to hell movie (thank god for that if the TIH rumors were true as the movie would have been even worse) and all the talk that he will not be asked back. It all adds up...all the rumors add up. Sony execs weren't happy with the movie, the movie gets edited to hell, it doesn't perform at the box office to their expectations...I think it's bye bye Webb.
 
I think you are talking to the wrong person here ;) haha!

And yeah, Sony was not happy with Webb as evident by the chopped to hell movie (thank god for that if the TIH rumors were true as the movie would have been even worse) and all the talk that he will not be asked back. It all adds up...all the rumors add up. Sony execs weren't happy with the movie, the movie gets edited to hell, it doesn't perform at the box office to their expectations...I think it's bye bye Webb.


I hope to God you're wrong. TAS is leagues better than most cbm's in my opinion and will make around $750 million worldwide (4th in 2012 behind Avengers, TDKR and Ice Age). I strongly believe they'll hurt the franchise and what would be a fantastic series of Spidey movies if they don't bring him back.
 
A similar thing happened to me when I came out of Batman Begins .
A woman asked her boyfriend if he liked it,
He said , "it was great, except The Joker killed Bruce Waynes parents ".

Did he think he was just watching a "special" version of '89 Batman?
 
I certainly hope that person was 6 years old. -_-

Yeah that's a bit upsetting. Coming from someone who in 2002, at age 10, facepalmed the organics. That may, in fact, have been my very first facepalm.
Nah, he was a grown ass man who claims that he's a big Marvel fan. :dry:
A similar thing happened to me when I came out of Batman Begins .
A woman asked her boyfriend if he liked it,
He said , "it was great, except The Joker killed Bruce Waynes parents ".
This is the reason why I don't pay attention to Rotten Tomatoes and internet polls, these people know nothing about these characters. Two decades later and the general audience still thinks that The Joker killed Bruce Wayan's parents, I'm really not surprised.
 
Well there's this thing called the general public that their only reference to Batman is from the movies and the '89 film had Joker being the one that killed Bruce's parents. It's not really their fault for they do not know well enough.
 
I think you are talking to the wrong person here ;) haha!

And yeah, Sony was not happy with Webb as evident by the chopped to hell movie (thank god for that if the TIH rumors were true as the movie would have been even worse) and all the talk that he will not be asked back. It all adds up...all the rumors add up. Sony execs weren't happy with the movie, the movie gets edited to hell, it doesn't perform at the box office to their expectations...I think it's bye bye Webb.

Exactly. I don't understand why so many people here think Webb has Sony by the balls? The movie really wasn't received that well, and the fact it wasn't Spider-Man vs Batman, and it was Batman vs Avengers is insane given the character has been a house hold name for decades.

The Raimi franchize died because Sam disagreed with the studio and they learned there lesson by only signing the actors with a 3 film deal. With how much they edited the film its obvious they weren't pleased with Webbs work no matter what they say, and if he's going to object to their creative control you can be damn sure he's out.
 
Well there's this thing called the general public that their only reference to Batman is from the movies and the '89 film had Joker being the one that killed Bruce's parents. It's not really their fault for they do not know well enough.
Yeah, it really is their fault, especially, with an icon like Batman. Unless they live up under a rock. Now if this was Green Lantern, I'd give them a pass, Batman, Spider-Man and Superman, no pass from me.
 
©KAW;24274129 said:
Yeah, it really is their fault, especially, with an icon like Batman. Unless they live up under a rock. Now if this was Green Lantern, I'd give them a pass, Batman, Spider-Man and Superman, no pass from me.

No it's not their fault, most people don't read comics they get what they know from the movies. Thats why there was this huge storm of people who thought that Amazing was "following the story of the comics" because it had Gwen and the Webshooters. If you go around of the street and ask people who Joe Chill is most people would honestly probably say Mr.Freeze.
 
I say it is their fault, a little research doesn't hurt, especially in a span of 20+ years. Not that it keeps me up at night, but it's the reason why I don't pay attention to movie critics, the general audience and polls on the internet, especially about this genre.
 
©KAW;24274129 said:
Yeah, it really is their fault, especially, with an icon like Batman. Unless they live up under a rock. Now if this was Green Lantern, I'd give them a pass, Batman, Spider-Man and Superman, no pass from me.

©KAW;24274309 said:
I say it is their fault, a little research doesn't hurt, especially in a span of 20+ years. Not that it keeps me up at night, but it's the reason why I don't pay attention to movie critics, the general audience and polls on the internet, especially about this genre.

That's like saying it's someone's fault that they don't know anything about something like Jersey Shore since they could do some research.

Don't know anything about 50 Shades of Grey either? Well, it's your fault as you can do some research to find out what the book's about :o
 
That's like saying it's someone's fault that they don't know anything about something like Jersey Shore since they could do some research.

Don't know anything about 50 Shades of Grey either? Well, it's your fault as you can do some research to find out what the book's about :o
Neither have been in existence for 70 years, please, very bad examples. Or even the 20 years since the film first hit theaters. But being that you used a smiley, I take it this is a friendly post that end with us sharing some Jell-O.
 
©KAW;24274309 said:
I say it is their fault, a little research doesn't hurt, especially in a span of 20+ years. Not that it keeps me up at night, but it's the reason why I don't pay attention to movie critics, the general audience and polls on the internet, especially about this genre.

Well most movie critics just judge it as a movie not with source material in mind so I think thats a little biased, but most people just don't care. I mean they like the movie Batman but that doesn't mean they're Batman fans then they don't realize what they know isn't accurate. It's just ignorant when they start talking about "the comics" and they're basically speaking out of their ass. My friend did this at the Avengers when someone said they didn't like Batman because he had no powers, he responded saying "in the original comics batman had eco location type abilities but they took that out to make it more realistic".
 
I know, I see your point, but this is why their opinions are dismissed by me. The moment one thinks that Spider-Man has or should have organic web-shooters, or thinks that Superman should take the bus instead of flying, I just no longer care for their opinion on the movie as a whole.
 
©KAW;24274405 said:
Neither have been in existence for 70 years, please, very bad examples. Or even the 20 years since the film first hit theaters. But being that you used a smiley, I take it this is a friendly post that end with us sharing some Jell-O.

I hate Jell-O. Let's stick to some Red Robin :up:

But, anywho...I think those are fine examples. Anyone could look up about anything on the internet to search up on something, wether it's a TV series that's been on for six years, or a comic book character that's been around for seventy years, anyone could look up something for research but if they simply don't, then it's not their fault if they're not "in the know". It's something I wouldn't frown upon because there is better stuff to do then doing research on something that really doesn't interest you. The general public, they saw '89 Batman and while they may have enjoyed it, they're not going to go crazy and look up who the real killer is that murdered Bruce's parents or that Harvey Dent doesn't even look like Billy Dee Williams.
 

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