The Last Jedi Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker (VIII)

[Boom]

The last one is my favorite. Such a great shot.

 

[danoyse]

Have you watched Star Wars: Clone Wars and/or Star Wars Rebels?

Because the latter gave me one of my favourite lightsaber face-offs.

Spoiler

Obi-Wan and Darth Maul's final meeting.

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Possibly the most realistic "sword fight" ever portrayed in Star Wars too. Over as soon as it starts and yet there's so much going on in the scene. In the build up and the brief clash. The entire scene is beautiful.

I’m sooo behind on Rebels, but that episode was great.

 

[Herolee10]

Well, they were some important lines that explained the meaning of using the Force, so...

They could have just given him a lightsaber fight, but I like what we got far more than what ultimately be a stuntman CGI’d to look like Mark Hamill flipping around just because lightsaber fights look cool.

Honestly, I don't see myself getting over this. If this film had been for Luke on what "Logan" was for Wolverine, then I might have felt differently.

But all we get is Luke just spending most of his time doing basically nothing on the island before using the force to trick Kylo (and the audiences) that we are in for a epic fight only for Rian to give yet another middle finger to us before Luke dies.

I don't even recognize this version of Luke. The way he was portrayed in the EU novels is far superior and more compelling than what we actually got.

I can't believe that Disney threw away characters like Mara Jade and Ben Skywalker in favor for Rey and Kylo

And while I'm sure this isn't the last that we have seen of Luke, I honestly have no desire in seeing a Force Ghost Luke.

If Luke was revived in the next film then I would actually show interest in the franchise again.

And what adds insult to injury is that this is all for the sake of making Rey into some invincible and perfect Jedi (despite never being trained or facing any real struggles to become a Jedi, which i refuse to call her at this point).

 

[Brother Jack]

Have you watched Star Wars: Clone Wars and/or Star Wars Rebels?

Because the latter gave me one of my favourite lightsaber face-offs.

Spoiler

Obi-Wan and Darth Maul's final meeting.

[YT]jeG215-yu-k[/YT]

Possibly the most realistic "sword fight" ever portrayed in Star Wars too. Over as soon as it starts and yet there's so much going on in the scene. In the build up and the brief clash. The entire scene is beautiful.

It's a perfect lightsaber fight. Outside of the films it's maybe the best ever done, and when compared to the PT certainly much better.

 

[Herolee10]

Just hypothetically speaking (and I know that it will never happen though), IF JJ decided to revive Luke in Episode 9, how would you guys end up feeling about that?

Would it destroy TLJ for those of you that loved his death in the film? Would it revive the franchise for those of you that hated what happened to him in TLJ?

 

[TheVileOne]

Just hypothetically speaking (and I know that it will never happen though), IF JJ decided to revive Luke in Episode 9, how would you guys end up feeling about that?

Would it destroy TLJ for those of you that loved his death in the film? Would it revive the franchise for those of you that hated what happened to him in TLJ?

That would be massively dumb, and I could never accept that.

Luke's dead. He can come back as a Force ghost, and that's it. Then that would've made killing him basically pointless. Am I crazy about that happening? No, but you can't just undo everything because you didn't like it in a contrived haphazard way.

 

[Boom]

It would be insanely idiotic to revive him.

He can come back as a Force Ghost and still be a part of Rey's development as a Jedi. And as we saw with Yoda in TLJ, apparently Force Ghosts have more power than once thought. So that's an interesting prospect.

 

[Adhesive Boy]

It would be insanely idiotic to revive him.

He can come back as a Force Ghost and still be a part of Rey's development as a Jedi. And as we saw with Yoda in TLJ, apparently Force Ghosts have more power than once thought. So that's an interesting prospect.

She doesn't need any help developing as a Jedi. In a few days she's learned on her own to overpower Kylo Ren in the Force, physically beat Kylo, Luke and Snoke's guards, levitate a huge bunch of boulders, etc.

In a couple of weeks she'll probably be force projecting like Luke. It comes so easy, just like it did instantly being a master pilot, a great gunner, etc.

 

[DerekLake]

Just hypothetically speaking (and I know that it will never happen though), IF JJ decided to revive Luke in Episode 9, how would you guys end up feeling about that?

Would it destroy TLJ for those of you that loved his death in the film? Would it revive the franchise for those of you that hated what happened to him in TLJ?

I think it’s a bit too late to revive the franchise. When Lucasfilm (yes, including George Lucas) decided to reboot the Rebels vs Empire conflict and retread the idea of a fallen Jedi Order and a failed Jedi master betrayed by his apprentice, it effectively meant the end of Star Wars as we know it. The story of the Jedi, of the Force, is done after these films, as is the story of the Rebellion/Republic. Resurrecting Luke won’t change that. The best they can do is find a way to conclude Kylo Ren’s character arc (he’s clearly the creative focus of these films, as he is the only character to undergo some sort of pivotal transformation here — even if it’s just a change of status).

These films will make money as they have, but they won’t open up new creative avenues. I certainly don’t expect any future films about the light side vs the dark side. And maybe that was always the intention (it’s not necessarily a bad thing).

But, no, bringing back Luke at this stage won’t do anything.

 

[random_havoc]

Yeah these movies are ruined beyond repair.

They could've made the prophecy of one who brings balance to the force actually mean something. They could've said that there were decades of peace after Luke and the rebel's victory, and could've started these movies as things start to go wrong and a new threat arises, but no JJ just copy and pasted episode 4 ruining any chance of something new, and Johnson took a dump on Luke amongst other problems. No way to recover from that garbage

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Reviving Luke would be ridiculous.

 

[Marvolo]

Yeah these movies are ruined beyond repair.

They could've made the prophecy of one who brings balance to the force actually mean something. They could've said that there were decades of peace after Luke and the rebel's victory, and could've started these movies as things start to go wrong and a new threat arises, but no JJ just copy and pasted episode 4 ruining any chance of something new, and Johnson took a dump on Luke amongst other problems. No way to recover from that garbage

There was peace. The Empire surrendered one year after Endor. The First Order didn't come out in the open until until about 6 years before TFA. It came out into the open sometime after Bloodline. And the first open public attack against the New Republic was Starkiller base destroying the Hosnian system in TFA. Prior to that it was cold war espionage stuff.

And the Prophecy did mean something. The entire PT is about the Prophecy, and Episode 4-6 is about Anakin's redemption and Anakin destroying the Sith. The prophecy's relevance ended with Anakin's death and the destruction of the Sith.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Reviving Luke would be ridiculous.

I like Hamill’s idea best...

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[Adhesive Boy]

I like Hamill’s idea best...

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Lmao at the Rian tweet he responded to that talked about the metal hand remaining, like it should have, undercutting the moment. Undercut, just like the Luke stand off and force effort were by him not actually being there and then randomly dying.

Maybe he just likes things undercutting scenes when they don't make as much sense. Given how crudely he wrote many storylines I understand that he's against being coherent with the established canon, so that's probably why he randomly went against how the Force works.

 

[Orba]

Lmao at the Rian tweet he responded to that talked about the metal hand remaining, like it should have, undercutting the moment. Undercut, just like the Luke stand off and force effort were by him not actually being there and then randomly dying.

Maybe he just likes things undercutting scenes when they don't make as much sense. Given how crudely he wrote many storylines I understand that he's against being coherent with the established canon, so that's probably why he randomly went against how the Force works.

Why should it have remained? When Kenobi died all that remained of him was his lightsaber and his outer robe, the rest of his clothes look to have gone, definitely his boots. And when Yoda died all his clothes disappeared. Why should the hand have remained when every other time we have seen someone join the Force they have disappeared and taken most of the things on them with them.

 

[Marvolo]

Why should it have remained? When Kenobi died all that remained of him was his lightsaber and his outer robe, the rest of his clothes look to have gone, definitely his boots. And when Yoda died all his clothes disappeared. Why should the hand have remained when every other time we have seen someone join the Force they have disappeared and taken most of the things on them with them.

Yeah there is no set canon rule that says his hand should have remained. But facts dont seem to matter to a number of people that just want to complain.

 

[Orba]

Yeah there is no set canon rule that says his hand should have remained. But facts dont seem to matter to a number of people that just want to complain.

Its like the people that complain that the EU is gone then complain about TLJ changing things about the Force when Luke uses Force Doppelganger, even though its an ability that originally appeared in the EU.

 

[Adhesive Boy]

Why should it have remained? When Kenobi died all that remained of him was his lightsaber and his outer robe, the rest of his clothes look to have gone, definitely his boots. And when Yoda died all his clothes disappeared. Why should the hand have remained when every other time we have seen someone join the Force they have disappeared and taken most of the things on them with them.

Or you can look at the example that actually includes someone with metal parts. That's also extra relevant since Lucas has for a long time said that the metal parts were directly harmful to the Force potential of Anakin, so there's a point why they clash with the Force whereas clothing doesn't matter either way. Not that this was the thing that Rian undercut things hanged on though.

 

[C. Lee]

Luke should not be "resurrected" in next movie. The movies have shown that some Jedi return as Force Ghosts after death. They have not shown them coming back to life.

I figure his metal hand disappeared with the rest of his body because it WAS part of his body. It wasn't a cloak or robe he was wearing...it was something integrated with his body.

Since the people in charge of the franchise have said the EU does not exist in the movie universe....you can not like that fact....but saying the current movie is bad because it didn't incorporate any of the EU into it is pointless.

Saying the current movie is bad because it didn't follow your fan fiction ideas is beyond pointless.

 

[Herolee10]

Well personally, I don't think the movie was bad because it didn't follow what I wanted to see. Even without Luke's untimely passing, the film had several issues that made it bad imho.

 

[Brother Jack]

Luke died on his own terms. He would have known projecting himself like that would likely kill him. I mean, if you could just do that any time you wanted with no consequence it would make physically going somewhere irrelevant, and open up a load of narrative landmines. When Luke becomes one with the force he gets to become "more powerful than you can possibly imagine", which Yoda calling down lightning was a literal picture of.

 

[Herolee10]

Well I still respectively maintain my belief that there was no reason why Luke had to be written to die in this film.

I never expected Luke to survive by the end of the new trilogy but to kill him off in the middle chapter was just stupid and uncalled for imho.

The choice to kill Luke at the end of this film comes off as nothing more than Rian trying to raise the shock value for the sake of being different and throwing off expectations as opposed to following the natural progression of a story line.

If I was the only one that felt like this was a mistake, while everyone else thought that it was freaking brilliant then I'd start questioning on what I'm not understanding but killing Luke off divided A LOT of people.

Hell, it's not so much of our so called "fan service" expectations but more about how there was just no real setup to warrant such an event. It didn't feel earned and came out of nowhere.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think it was a mistake, but I think "resurrecting" Luke would be an even bigger mistake.

 

[Mjölnir]

I'm not saying I want him to be resurrected, and I definitely don't think they will, but I don't think it would be bigger mistake than what they did with him since at least this hypothetical mistake could lead to something good being done with the character. The existing one ruled that out.

I'm not particularly interested in seeing him as a force ghost as that's starting to feel like a shaky thing in the films. First Yoda being able to affect the real world changes the role of force ghosts completely, or at least it should (their writing might just ignore that). Rey doesn't need Luke anymore and if he shows himself to Kylo then they just put even more focus on the question why Anakin never did. Had Anakin come and explained himself to Ben/Kylo things would most likely have been different, and with the quality of the writing in the story this far I assume that that's the only reason why he didn't. They wanted a certain situation and are willing to haphazardly change or ignore things to get there.

 

[markjoedelonge]

Definitely don't resurrect Luke. Which is a crying shame because you only get one shot at a character's death and TLJ did a really bad job IMO.