Matt Reeves To Direct The Upcoming Batman Solo - Part 2

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In all seriousness, he could’ve made a good Spider-Man in another universe.
 
Is there any confirmed candidates? I read months ago about a candidates list with some names but then read it was just pure rumors
 
Seriously everyone let’s not freak out. We’ve been through the past 3 years of a rollercoaster with Batman. It literally cannot get worse. I’m not freaking out until it’s August and we still have nothing. Then I will join in on the “movie is doomed” train.

Then again I’m a naive Batman fan. What do I know? *shrugs*
 
But if The Batman follows the Marvel model of Captain Marvel with this film taking place in the past with it taking place like in the 90s in terms of timeline continuity just like what Captain Marvel did then I think that that is an interesting way to go about doing things but then the issue lies: if you plan on doing sequels then how do you translate that Batman into present day? You would almost have to get another actor to play the role in present day as a way to evolve from the past Batman in timeline continuity because then how would you explain why the new Batman looks all of a sudden younger than Gadot or Momoa or Cavill?
 
The same way Tom Holland was explained. You don't. People know what a reboot is.
 
Yeah I know but think about it...in the timeline continuity Bruce is in his 40s at least...he looks as old as Diana and Arthur and Clark but then this new film if it is a prequel and you cast a young actor in the role that is not in their 40s and they play the character in the film then if you do sequels with that same actor in the role, would they really be believable as being in their 40s much like Affleck was when you translate the character into the present day timeline of the DCEU?
 
Do you guys want to see sex and sexuality in this here film? Lemme tell ya, the Nolan films felt like a lifetime spent on a monastary. Drier than a charred cake, burning in an oven. I remember when Michelle Pfeiffer licked Keaton's face.

I wanna see Matthew clap the cheeks of the pg13 certificate as hard as Batman claps the cheeks of Catwoman.
 
I'm sure they will probably have all sorts of sexual tension or chemistry for Batman and Catwoman to play around with but I am sure it will probably be nothing more than that...like think Bale/Hathaway type vibes but nothing more than that if anything
 
Do you guys want to see sex and sexuality in this here film? Lemme tell ya, the Nolan films felt like a lifetime spent on a monastary. Drier than a charred cake, burning in an oven. I remember when Michelle Pfeiffer licked Keaton's face.

I wanna see Matthew clap the cheeks of the pg13 certificate as hard as Batman claps the cheeks of Catwoman.
Jesus ****ing christ we do need some updates for this film
 
You’re also just incredibly negative,Nancy

Possibly. Hopefully :D

Do you guys want to see sex and sexuality in this here film? Lemme tell ya, the Nolan films felt like a lifetime spent on a monastary. Drier than a charred cake, burning in an oven. I remember when Michelle Pfeiffer licked Keaton's face.

I wanna see Matthew clap the cheeks of the pg13 certificate as hard as Batman claps the cheeks of Catwoman.

Your wrist must be huge.
 
like earning 4 times the budget?

Investment to return obviously makes a big difference, but the optics of a modern day comic book movie making ~350 million is pretty bad... when Ant-Man can make over 500 million and it's company in the $300 million & below club are movies like Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four 1 & 2, that looks pretty bad. Even worse when you account for the higher ticket prices and options of today like IMAX and 3D that beef up the prices.

So did Shazam make money? Yes, but coming off of a billion dollar hit like Aquaman and going down to nearly 4x lower in returns is bound to be disappointing for some execs.

I would be that their thinking behind lowering budgets was to have another success like Deadpool, which was made for peanuts and made close to 800 million worldwide. THAT is what they were hoping for with Shazam, as it still makes a lot more than the average comic book movie but they were able to do it for less money than the average comic book movie.

Here they made the movie for less than average and got a less than average movie out of it despite making money.
 
Investment to return obviously makes a big difference, but the optics of a modern day comic book movie making ~350 million is pretty bad... when Ant-Man can make over 500 million and it's company in the $300 million & below club are movies like Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four 1 & 2, that looks pretty bad. Even worse when you account for the higher ticket prices and options of today like IMAX and 3D that beef up the prices.

So did Shazam make money? Yes, but coming off of a billion dollar hit like Aquaman and going down to nearly 4x lower in returns is bound to be disappointing for some execs.

I would be that their thinking behind lowering budgets was to have another success like Deadpool, which was made for peanuts and made close to 800 million worldwide. THAT is what they were hoping for with Shazam, as it still makes a lot more than the average comic book movie but they were able to do it for less money than the average comic book movie.

Here they made the movie for less than average and got a less than average movie out of it despite making money.

Its doing what they expected, a profit is a profit, oh wait, was that a sequel announcement I heard....yes, yes, yes it was. Happy execs with first film performance.
 
Its doing what they expected, a profit is a profit, oh wait, was that a sequel announcement I heard....yes, yes, yes it was. Happy execs with first film performance.

They expected/hoped the movie to make as much as Fantastic Four back in the early 2000s? They can still be okay with what it made, because like you/I both said it made a profit, but you can't seriously think they were only hoping for 350 million when that's probably the lowest grossing major CBM in recent memory besides the Fant4stic reboot.

Could you imagine if they spent any more money on this movie? The conversation would be about them barely breaking even.

As for the sequel... I wouldn't be surprised if the original plan gets tweaked to include The Rock's Black Adam in a major way. The first movie showed there isn't a huge audience for this character on his own, so maybe The Rock/Black Adam would be the shot in the arm the franchise needs to put it over the top and compete with other movies at their level.
 
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Yeah I know but think about it...in the timeline continuity Bruce is in his 40s at least...he looks as old as Diana and Arthur and Clark but then this new film if it is a prequel and you cast a young actor in the role that is not in their 40s and they play the character in the film then if you do sequels with that same actor in the role, would they really be believable as being in their 40s much like Affleck was when you translate the character into the present day timeline of the DCEU?

I'm not even sure they are going to go back to all that. It just seems like a whole Pandora's Box at the moment.

Batman should be more concerned with its own world anyway. There is plenty to do. For example, if these Reeves movies introduce Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon, then that gives the chance for not only Robin and Batgirl in these movies, but solos for Nightwing and for Batgirl. (Also stuff like Catwoman and Gotham City Sirens.) There would be a lot to sort out there in and of itself, in terms of the shared universe.

Where that leaves The Batman in terms of stuff like the Justice League...was it really great to see Batman like that last time? Batman can do all that and more in his own movies. Another JL movie should only be told when all this is out of the way, and it hasn't even started yet. And another JL movie better be damn special, like a Kingdom Come or Final Crisis...
 
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People really forget Shazam! is under New Line Cinema hu? pretty much no promo outside US but a few selected countries, low budget, and it's doing big numbers for New Line but sure, it's a flop lmao
 
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I think for whatever reason, this particular relaunch of Batman must be a very tough nut to crack. Affleck was never able to get to a place he was happy with for his version, and Reeves is going on 2 years tinkering with this script now.

For what it's worth, I'm glad WB is giving him the time and space to get it into good shape. This movie needs to be really good, and imo the more time for BvS and JL to slide into the past before we see the character again...the better.
 
I'm just wondering if the studio is getting cold feet on Reeves' more detective-driven take. The fact that they're still asking for more action in the script at this stage in the game makes me believe that whatever revisions he had been doing over the past two years still weren't enough to make them happy. I'm concerned that this may reach a breaking point where Reeves says, "This isn't what I wanted to do."

But then again, WB just dated the movie a couple of months ago, which they wouldn't have done if they sensed this was a sinking ship. So this may very well just be me worrying over nothing.
 
I mean tbh, every time Reeves has emphasized it being a detective noir story, I've wondered how light on action WB would allow him to go with it.

I think there is a happy medium to find there, so I'm not necessarily worried either, but yeah. As much as many of us would gladly sit down to watch a 2 1/2 hour pure detective story that was lighter on action than previous Bat-films, I do think that kind of thing would put the movie at huge risk for "it was boring" word of mouth with mainstream audiences which is not something I think this movie can afford to have. I mean, even Begins/TDK had some of those complaints, despite the fact that those movies had huge setpieces and were action blockbusters at the end of the day.
 
Last time WB went action lite in one of their properties, hoping the brand name would carry it was Superman Returns. Look how that went down. If WB are worried that there isn't enough action, I'd be asking why they green lit Reeve's take in the first place.
 
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