MCU Fantastic Four Box Office Predictions

[blueharvest]

 

[donuts]

See? And y'all were worried!

 

[psylockolussus]

Domestic (52.5%)
$265,826,180 (outgrossed The Amazing Spider-Man)

International (47.5%)
$240,500,000 (outgrossed Eternals)

Worldwide
$506,326,180

 

[Spider-Fan]

I was never worried lol

 

[kguillou]

I’m waiting for them to announce when the steelbook is coming out. Normally we’d have that info ou by now.

 

[FrankenCastle]

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Dr. Doom : Christopher Lee

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

This is truly wonderful news. A box office run clearing half a billion dollars for an F4 film has always been unheard of…until now.

 

[Frodo]

It is wonderful news as far as I'm concerned.

I appreciate the film may not have had the box office that alot of fandom , online pundits, and Disney/ Marvel may have expected or hoped for.

But what Marvel Studios did do is , produce was a good Fantastic Four film ,after 30 years and 3 other attempts .

I ultimately think that the F4 franchise will be rewarded for that , as long as the studio continues to tell emotional, and compelling stories, revolving around those four characters .

The franchise may not ever reach the box office heights of other popular Marvel characters, and as a fan of these characters, I can accept that.

But the key is to have future generations embrace the Fantastic Four , and to inspire future creative teams it to keep making F4 films, long after Pedro Pascal, Vanessa Kirby, Joseph Quinn , and Ebon Moss Bacharach retire the roles, and pass the baton to a new group of talented actors.

 

[zeptron]

They're still gonna be people calling it a flop. People like this tend to not know what the term "flop" actually means.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Update from BOR:

Updated 3-day weekend estimate for Disney's The Fantastic Four: First Steps is $4.90M (from 2,785 locations), which is an 18% decrease from last weekend. Updated 4-day weekend estimate is $6.30M. Estimated total domestic gross through Monday stands at $266.13M.

 

[psylockolussus]

Fantastic Four Crosses a Box Office Milestone Many Believed Wasn’t Possible - Comic Book Movies and Superhero Movie News - SuperHeroHype

Despite experiencing a large drop in its earnings, The Fantastic Four: Final Steps has managed to pass a significant box office milestone.

www.superherohype.com

Phasix is off to a good start!

Lets just hope Brand New Day, Doomsday and Secret Wars are as good as this one.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Fantastic Four Crosses a Box Office Milestone Many Believed Wasn’t Possible - Comic Book Movies and Superhero Movie News - SuperHeroHype

Despite experiencing a large drop in its earnings, The Fantastic Four: Final Steps has managed to pass a significant box office milestone.

www.superherohype.com

Phasix is off to a good start!

Lets just hope Brand New Day, Doomsday and Secret Wars are as good as this one.

I really disliked the way Superherohype! concluded this article. It’s as if they (and others) are resisting the need to finally admit that this film has been successful. To cross half a billion dollars in 1.5 months would be the dream of any film, let alone a CBM in this choppy, post-Pandemic box office environment.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Actuals came in a bit higher.

Dom 266.16
OS 241.39
WW 507.55

 

[Stark Bauer]

i dont remember if it was here but someone observed FF beat Winter Soldier domestic BO. If tbat isn’t success, i dont know what is…

 

[Filmfreak]

Domestic numbers are good but it's not doing great elsewhere. I don't want to fester negativity but with a budget over 200+ it barely breaks even (maybe if they reveal the actual budget it may not even do that).

Now, I wouldn't paint it a disaster by any logical means but I wouldn't really call this much of a success either. After two MCU movies losing money this year this was one of their biggest guns they've been waiting for years to put their hands on. I'm sure the executives expected more than not losing money on this.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Domestic numbers are good but it's not doing great elsewhere. I don't want to fester negativity but with a budget over 200+ it barely breaks even (maybe if they reveal the actual budget it may not even do that).

Now, I wouldn't paint it a disaster by any logical means but I wouldn't really call this much of a success either. After two MCU movies losing money this year this was one of their biggest guns they've been waiting for years to put their hands on. I'm sure the executives expected more than not losing money on this.

I think fans expected a lot more than execs did. Yeah, the international numbers are a bit low, but the overall number is in line with many 1st entries on the MCU. No one was banking on this being a billion dollar hit.

 

[Filmfreak]

I think fans expected a lot more than execs did. Yeah, the international numbers are a bit low, but the overall number is in line with many 1st entries on the MCU. No one was banking on this being a billion dollar hit.

Yeah but there is a big gap between one billion and half a billion. Where does it expect to end its run? I don't know if it's possible to go much further. Because again, I'm sure executives expected more than just not losing money or making pocket change profit (IF it even does that). Even by post pandemic standards this is not something to celebrate for in my opinion. Superman making 600+ million, yes. F1 making as much, hell yeah!

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah but there is a big gap between one billion and half a billion. Where does it expect to end its run? I don't know if it's possible to go much further. Because again, I'm sure executives expected more than just not losing money or making pocket change profit (IF it even does that). Even by post pandemic standards this is not something to celebrate for in my opinion. Superman making 600+ million, yes. F1 making as much, hell yeah!

Outside of Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and GOTG, the range for 1st installments for new franchises in the MCU has been 350-650. So, the level of "failure" here is being greatly exaggerated

 

[SomeOldGuy]

As far as OS is concerned the biggest factor by far is the collapse of China as a theatrical market for CBMs. If China was still producing at pre-COVID levels both F4 and Superman would each have another $100m+ OS and a lot of the conversation around both films would be very different. So it’s a problem, definitely, but not one limited to F4.

 

[psylockolussus]

Domestic numbers are good but it's not doing great elsewhere. I don't want to fester negativity but with a budget over 200+ it barely breaks even (maybe if they reveal the actual budget it may not even do that).

Now, I wouldn't paint it a disaster by any logical means but I wouldn't really call this much of a success either. After two MCU movies losing money this year this was one of their biggest guns they've been waiting for years to put their hands on. I'm sure the executives expected more than not losing money on this.

The lesson here is probably less is more.

Like I've said before, putting out a Captain America legacy movie without Steve, a Thunderbolts movie with b to c listers and a 2nd Fantastic Four reboot in a span of six months wasn't very smart of Disney and Marvel Studios.

The good news, Fantastic 4 still came out on top out of the 3 films since F4 is the most important ip out of the three. We've been waiting for it since the Fox buyout finalized, unlike the other two which were randomly announced (imo) in 2022.

Hopefully its still enough to greenlit FF2.

 

[psylockolussus]

North America (Marvel)
$312,433,331 Iron Man 2
$266,407,834 First Steps
$262,030,663 Amazing Spider-Man

Global (Marvel)
$543,934,105 Apocalypse
$519,311,965 Ant-Man
$507,802,663 First Steps
$506,813,864 Let There Be Carnage

North America (MCU)
$312,433,331 Iron Man 2
$266,407,834 First Steps
$259,766,572 Winter Soldier

International (MCU)
$261,566,271 Quantumania
$241,394,829 First Steps
$237,194,665 Eternals

Global (MCU)
$519,311,965 Ant-Man
$507,802,663 First Steps
$476,071,180 Quantumania

The next Marvel film, it could potentially outgross is Ant-Man globally. I think there's a potential for the big drop this week/weekend, given summer is done. Hopefully it could still crawl to $520 million.

 

[Filmfreak]

Outside of Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and GOTG, the range for 1st installments for new franchises in the MCU has been 350-650. So, the level of "failure" here is being greatly exaggerated

That's why I agreed it's not a failure. But calling it a success is equally a stretch. The F4 is one of the most well known titles for Marvel, it can't be compared to stuff like Thunderbolts or Ant-Man pre MCU. Nor is it as accurate to compare it to movies that came out before The Avengers or during the pandemic.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

That's why I agreed it's not a failure. But calling it a success is equally a stretch. The F4 is one of the most well known titles for Marvel, it can't be compared to stuff like Thunderbolts or Ant-Man pre MCU. Nor is it as accurate to compare it to movies that came out before The Avengers or during the pandemic.

Hard disagree. Yes, “the F4 is one of the most well-known titles for Marvel.” But well-known for what? Beloved within the Marvel fandom? Yes. But heretofore, what has been the public’s view of the property? Theatrically, the F4 has always been considered lame, cheesy, or disinteresting at best to general audiences. We know the reasons why, so I won’t re-litigate that.

But those reasons considered, there are multiple qualifiers for ranking First Steps a success. Hell, just compared to films within its own franchise, it succeeds categorically where every previous F4 movie failed: (1) critically, (2) audience reception (Cinemascore), and (3) global box office tally.

The word “Success” is the antonym of “Failure.” There’s no mid-way adjective—it’s either one or the other.

 

[Spider-Fan]

That's why I agreed it's not a failure. But calling it a success is equally a stretch. The F4 is one of the most well known titles for Marvel, it can't be compared to stuff like Thunderbolts or Ant-Man pre MCU. Nor is it as accurate to compare it to movies that came out before The Avengers or during the pandemic.

You're cherry picking stats. We can all agree the state of the film industry and Marvel's standing within it are different today than say, 2017 correct? So, you want to discount all other MCU eras for comparison except the MCU's most successful one. Aka, you are trying to frame the movie as a failure before having the discussion. Further, yeah the FF may be one of the most well known Marvel IPs, but cinematically speaking it hasn't translated into bankability. The FF are not Spider-Man. We have 3 movies of data showcasing the interest in the IP, and Marvel did succeed in expanding that reach as seen by BO being higher relative to those movies. The FF are important historically for Marvel, but in the last 20 years, they've been very heavily de-emphasized. Thus, interest in them isnt the same as Spider-Man, Wolverine, Deadpool, the Avengers and their members, etc. The BO here is also their 3rd best since Phase 5 started. It's a win. Not a home run. But a double.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Half a billion dollars at the box office isn't a success now?

In THIS current economy?