Marvel Films MCU Phase IV!

[person]

I kind of like this theory - I've been wondering whether the Infinity Stones would just cease to matter after Endgame, and I don't think that should be the case. They've been too important to be destroyed off-screen and without any lasting ramifications.

I've read about this idea at X-Men Theory: How Galactus And Phoenix Force Can Be Easily Retconned Into The MCU. and I thought it woud be the best way to introduce all those fox-owned concepts before introducing the major characters.

 

[person]

Personally, I think Phase IV should bring more morally oriented stories. I mean issues that are not just about villain who wants to either controll, destroy or take some kind of revenge on something and the acting heroes in order to maintain the status quo. They should instead go for plots that explore more than two sides of the story and allow the spectator to choose the side.
They should also consider making villains last as they do with heroes. After all, with the exception of Loki, all other villains were somewhat one-dimensional. Marvel has many great villains that should not be killed in the first movie the appear, and if heroes can team up as Avengers, why can not there be Masters of Evil or Intelligencia?

 

[MbJ]

Comic-Con next month. Has it been confirmed whether or not Marvel is going? Or are they gonna do another separate press conference like Phase 3.

 

[CaptainWagner]

The idea that Xavier has chosen to just casually mind-wipe everyone who finds out mutants exist would be a terrible way to introduce the X-men.

And Magneto seems highly unlikely to just lurk in the shadows and accept his efforts being hidden by Xavier or covered up by the govt.

Not that the alternate universe idea doesn't have major problems of its own. I'm just saying this particular line of reasoning is a very poor attempt to justify the appearance of mutants.

Xavier mindwiping people is 100% in character, and establishes his moral grey side that has never really been touched on before. This is the guy who lost a whole team and then lied about it, to the brothers of one of those dead students.

I think you don't understand what mutants are supposed to be. They have nothing to do with the sorcerers in Dr. Strange.

Let's wait and see how they handle it. I'm pretty sure they won't do it the way you think.

What exactly do you think they're going to do/what mutants are supposed to be? A guarantee you there isn't going to be some magical McGuffin that creates mutants overnight.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Fans have for a long time wondered about why the FF and Avergers don't get the same treatment the X-Men do?

And... There is no reasoning it. You aren't supposed to ask why. It's a mirror of the irrational fears and resentments of real world bigotry. Shock of shocks... Racism doesn't actually follow any reasonable flow of thought.

It's almost as if this has gone over the heads of fans for decades or something?

 

[Iceman]

Here’s a thought: What if he’s playing none other than The Devourer Of World’s Herald himself the Silver Surfer? Probably not since the Fox-deal closed after the Eternals script was already written so I must suspect he’s playing a character he was written into the script before the closure of the deal.


But it’s fun to dream.

Wow! Promising. Also, many have mentioned him for Surfer and I would have no hesitation in backing that if he was interested.

 

[Smurphftw]

Wow! Promising. Also, many have mentioned him for Surfer and I would have no hesitation in backing that if he was interested.

Silver Surfer is the only Marvel role that I think he for which he would be a truly good

 

[flickchick85]

Comic-Con next month. Has it been confirmed whether or not Marvel is going? Or are they gonna do another separate press conference like Phase 3.

Isn't this a D23 year? They tend to sit SDCC out those years, I believe.

 

[Darkprime]

Isn't this a D23 year? They tend to sit SDCC out those years, I believe.

They might still announce something at SDCC just to give SDCC something to talk about. I could see a 2020 slate reveal at SDCC and the rest at D23.

 

[Kuwolski]

In 2017 they went to both.

 

[person]

If I were to write a FF origin story, it would be something about the relation between science, progress and society and about the responsibility that scientists and gonvernments have to use new discovers in benefical ways (something like the Manhatan Project and the atomic bomb). Each character would then take a perspective on the subject.
Susan Storm (who should be the major protagonist, in my opinion) is this young and brilliant science student, curius, hard-working, highly entusiastic, somewhat an overachiever and extremely passionate about science and space, who dreams on becoming a scientist and working with equally open-minded people, at some place dedicated exclusively to new discoveries. She represents all those young scientists who are purely inspired by their passion about knowledge and simply forget what comes next.
Reed is the personification of pure, cold, calculating, spock-like, precise science. He is the head of every part of the project Sue will eventually work in. After being negleted for her theories - that are perhaps ahead of their time - She will find Reed the open-minded mentor she looked for and he will convince her that science is everyhting (in is not so healthy and somewhat obcessive way).
Ben is precisely the opposite. He may work for the project as an army representative or as the team pilot, but he is reluctant in participating, for he represents those who think about the other side of the coin of progress, believing somethings should be left unexplored, although noone listens to him. This perspective makes sense as a prelude for the fact that he will be the one who suffers the most with the experience.
Johnny represents the spectator. Being and underachiever and living under the shadow of his academically brilliant sister, Johnny goes along but he doesn't have a clear opinion about the importance of the project. He is simply left to believe that it is something big that will benefict many (whatver it is). However, he's greater strugle his secret feeling that everyone is doing something important, except for him, who never discoverhis true potential.
After the main event (i.e. Act II -- Act III), Sue would realize the dark, corporative and irresponsible side of scientific discover that was playing all along; Ben would understand that, although he was somewhat right in the begining, it is also true that he (like everyone) as the power to change into a blessing what was once considered a curse (he may have the help of Alicia Master for that realization); Johnny was the only one who found the accident benefical (in his immature way) for he saw in his new power a way to unlock his potential as a solo street level vigilante (a short lived carrer however). As for Reed, he will open his eyes and see that science without humanitarism is nothing and decides to take action, reuniting the group and making the big speech about responsiblity, joining forces and remedy what has been done.

 

[person]

As for the project itself: After the events of Captain Marvel and before the Avengers there's a time lapse of 17 years in which Shield has been in the pocession of the Tesseract, knows the existence of Alien Life forms and Nick Fury started working on his Avengers iniciative idea. So, what if the events of Captain Marvel led to the creation of SWORD as an iniciative to look for new alien menaces and the project would consist on studying the Tesseract for the first time, eventually discovering its connection with the Negative Zone and the Multiverse. I think this connection makes sense since, as far as I know, in the comics, the negative zone is the same for all universes of the multiverse. This means that the negative zone can serve as a gate to any other place or dimension outside the universe, which is similar to what the tesseract can do. It could take place at the Peak and introduce Agent Brand.

 

[person]

I LOVE this idea.

The director of Guardians of the galaxy once said that he took the idea of Stan Lee being a watcher informant from a fan made theory. So, maybe, if this theory about the infinity stones is shared a lot, it may actually be used. It is highly improbable though

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Comic-Con next month. Has it been confirmed whether or not Marvel is going? Or are they gonna do another separate press conference like Phase 3.

There's something in the back of my mind telling me someone said they would be there - which surprised me, because I assumed they would just do D-23.

But I could be crazy or the person saying they'd be there might have been wrong.

If they do go, I'd expect them to present something more than just some upcoming release dates.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I think this is what I was remembering:

"one Disney executive made sure to point out the company would have presences at massive pop culture events throughout the year, including San Diego Comic-Con in July and D23 Expo in August."

Disney May Have Confirmed Marvel's Comic-Con Plans

 

[MbJ]

If they do go, I'd expect them to present something more than just some upcoming release dates.

They confirmed Brie Larson's casting at SDCC previously and brought her onstage, so I'd assume something like that for the upcoming movies.

 

[THORin]

They confirmed Brie Larson's casting at SDCC previously and brought her onstage, so I'd assume something like that for the upcoming movies.

I hope so. I want to see Angelina Jolie come onstage alongside Scarlett Johansson and whoever else they’ve got.

 

[Iceman]

Seeing her at one of these events would be awesome.

 

[person]

What if Stark knew about the multiverse before the events in Endgame (and maybe earlier), mantaining secret reunions with Reed Richards (who would be the foremost expert on the subject) under the codename "Illuminati". In their studies, they would find about the incursions and the Builders. Then, "anticipating" his death, he would record a message for Pepper telling her to take the iron armor and find Reed, who has been living in a self imposed recluse, studying the incursions while keeping his family proctected in some pocket dimension created by him. But someone else is also interested on the incursions, and that is Doctor Doom. I think this could be the begining of a plot for an "Iron Woman" (perhaps). In addition, the incursions and the invasion of the Builders could be the next major crossover event.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah...just no to all of that. Sorry

 

[flickchick85]

I think this is what I was remembering:

"one Disney executive made sure to point out the company would have presences at massive pop culture events throughout the year, including San Diego Comic-Con in July and D23 Expo in August."

Disney May Have Confirmed Marvel's Comic-Con Plans

Glad to hear it.

 

[Shuri]

Personally, I'm fond of the theory that suggests the infinity stones were beings from the time before the big bang and were trapped during the creation of the universe. The eventual destruction of the infinity jewells after the events in Endgame could lead to their freedom and it would be a promising plot element for phase 4, in my opinion.
For example, if the mind stone contained the phoenix force, it's release could lead to the sudden arise of mutants who previously had the mutant gene dormant (which makes sense, since the maximoff twins were enhanced using the mind stone). If this were to happen, then society would focus on the issue of the rising mutants and forget the cosmic menaces for awhile.
On the other hand, the power stone containing Galactus could eventually lead to those major story arcs such as the Galactus trillogy and the Annihilation, provided that the characters involved can be used. Surely, as soon as Galactus is freed, his heralds (Terrax, Stardust, Firelord, Air-walker and the silver Surfer) would come along. And those characters could certainly be used in the Guardians of the Galaxy or Captain Marvel franchises or even in some future major cosmic level Avengers movie.
Inspired byt this theory and since Doctor Strange II is being planned, I think nightmare could be introduced as the being contained in the reality stone. I think it makes sense due to his reality warping related abilities and due to his ocasional red demonic appearance. I must admit I don't know much about this character, however.
Certainly, other characters and plots could be introduced this way.
As for the introduction of the Fantastic Four, I think the best way would be to introduce them separately and inside another franchise (similarly to Spider-man in Civil war) and eventually give them an origin story taking place in the past (like Captain Marvel).

Great theory.

 

[Iceman]

I think this is what I was remembering:

"one Disney executive made sure to point out the company would have presences at massive pop culture events throughout the year, including San Diego Comic-Con in July and D23 Expo in August."

Disney May Have Confirmed Marvel's Comic-Con Plans

Both! Nice

 

[Shuri]

Comic-Con next month. Has it been confirmed whether or not Marvel is going? Or are they gonna do another separate press conference like Phase 3.

They have too, they skipped last year.

 

[flickchick85]

Personally, I'm fond of the theory that suggests the infinity stones were beings from the time before the big bang and were trapped during the creation of the universe. The eventual destruction of the infinity jewells after the events in Endgame could lead to their freedom and it would be a promising plot element for phase 4, in my opinion.
For example, if the mind stone contained the phoenix force, it's release could lead to the sudden arise of mutants who previously had the mutant gene dormant (which makes sense, since the maximoff twins were enhanced using the mind stone). If this were to happen, then society would focus on the issue of the rising mutants and forget the cosmic menaces for awhile.
On the other hand, the power stone containing Galactus could eventually lead to those major story arcs such as the Galactus trillogy and the Annihilation, provided that the characters involved can be used. Surely, as soon as Galactus is freed, his heralds (Terrax, Stardust, Firelord, Air-walker and the silver Surfer) would come along. And those characters could certainly be used in the Guardians of the Galaxy or Captain Marvel franchises or even in some future major cosmic level Avengers movie.
Inspired byt this theory and since Doctor Strange II is being planned, I think nightmare could be introduced as the being contained in the reality stone. I think it makes sense due to his reality warping related abilities and due to his ocasional red demonic appearance. I must admit I don't know much about this character, however.
Certainly, other characters and plots could be introduced this way.

Man, I love this so much I'm gonna be disappointed when it doesn't happen, lol.