MCU X-Men - Part 1

[Mad Ones]

Psylocke wasn't born Asian. She comes from a British family and was born caucasian.

I know... that's the problem lol

 

[Marvel united]

The school is named after Xavier. The X-Men are named after him; he's a pivotal character and he needs to be in the movie. His death can be a huge moment later in the series, why rush through such a huge moment? That'd be like starting off Spider-Man with Aunt May already dead

 

[Iceman]

The school is named after Xavier. The X-Men are named after him; he's a pivotal character and he needs to be in the movie. His death can be a huge moment later in the series, why rush through such a huge moment? That'd be like starting off Spider-Man with Aunt May already dead

Or kicking off the DCEU with Superman dead!

 

[Marvel united]

Or kicking off the DCEU with Superman dead!

Good point

 

[Zarex]

The school is named after Xavier. The X-Men are named after him; he's a pivotal character and he needs to be in the movie. His death can be a huge moment later in the series, why rush through such a huge moment? That'd be like starting off Spider-Man with Aunt May already dead

It's more like starting off Spider-Man with Uncle Ben already dead.

I am all Xaviered and Magnetoed out after the Fox series in which both characters were far more omnipresent than they were in the comics. I would prefer Feige and company have a different take on the material and put some other folks in the spotlight. You don't necessarily have to kill off both Charles and Erik, but you don't have to invite them to the party.

 

[Marvel united]

It's more like starting off Spider-Man with Uncle Ben already dead.

I am all Xaviered and Magnetoed out after the Fox series in which both characters were far more omnipresent than they were in the comics. I would prefer Feige and company have a different take on the material and put some other folks in the spotlight. You don't necessarily have to kill off both Charles and Erik, but you don't have to invite them to the party.

The difference being - Uncle Ben died in the very first issue the character ever appeared in. Xavier's TRUE death didn't happen until like 150 or so issues into the comics and even then, he was brought back until he died again in Avenger vs X-Men. He has to be a part of it, Magneto doesn't but Charles does. You can focus on other characters without removing the core of the X-Men. Charles can be a supporting character like he is in the source material.

And besides unless Marvels take is drastically different from the source Charles being a part of any team that has not been around for 10+ (which is impractical in the MCU) he's a necessity.

 

[Iceman]

As a support he wouldn't take much away from the team. He'd just be there to give them direction and the main thing is that he wouldn't be a field guy at all.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Completed my pitch for the first movie in my personal MCU X-Men Franchise

Spoiler

The Cast


Cyclops: Chris Pine --- Jean Grey: Blake Lively --- Storm: Tracy Ifeachor

With his time in the DCEU one and done, it's time Marvel complete their collection of Hollywood's Chris Quartet and sweep up Chris Pine. And there's no better part for him than Scott Summers, leader of the X-Men Field Team. Cyclops has been constantly disserviced time and again over the years, now is our chance to see him as a master tactician, the "golden boy" who privately struggles with the wieght of his surrogate father's vision. Chris Pine brings A-List charisma and a superhero aura to ensure Scott won't be overshadowed by the inevitable arrival of Wolverine. Jean Grey is Scott's second half. While he makes the plans, Jean deals with the person to person empathy that Scott struggles with. She is the "den mother" of the X-Men. Tracy Ifeachor then brings new life to Storm whose tough independence has yet to be properly portrayed on the big screen. In-universe, these are the three oldest X-Men, forming a well-oiled machine at the heart of the global operations.


Iceman: Chris Colfer --- Blink: Alia Shawkat --- Rictor: Carlos PenaVega

Rounding out the "Alpha" New York field team was hard. There's so many X-Men to choose from, and you want to keep a nice mi of power-sets, personalities, and characters that haven't been stars before. One I'm 100% sold on being needed no matter what is Iceman. I still have mixed feelings on his "outing" in the comics, but as he stands, he's Marvel's biggest gay character. And it's high time the MCU debuts their first openly gay hero. Casting Glee icon Chris Colfer would make it an even bigger deal, and he'd perfectly pull off Bobby's joking, confident in who he is attitude that keeps the team lively. Blink was hard to choose, because Nightcrawler is my all-time favorite X-Men. However, he's starred in both of the past franchises, and his personality kind of overlaps with Bobby. So this time around I chose Alia Shawkat to bring to life the brash, occaisonally reckless Blink (This time finally in full pink-skinned makeup). Lastly Rictor is Bobby's opposite. Awkward and introverted, his bombastic powerset hides his uncomfortable, bleak mindset, which his close friend and potential partner Bobby struggles to alleviate.


Charles Xavier: Denzel Washington --- Dr. Hank McCoy: Leslie Odom Jr.
Forge: Adam Beach --- Jubilee: Kelly Marie Tran

Following up performances by Sir Patrick Stewart and James McAvoy is no small task. To play Professor X you need someone of Denzel Washington's caliber. He brings intelligence, charisma, a paternal instinct, and the ability to pull off underlying moral ambiguity to Xavier, as this franchise will be exploring his darker side. Dr. Hank McCoy is the head of the mutant science team. Leslie Odom Jr. has the excessive charm to shine through plenty of blue furry makeup to give us the witty and sarcastic science guy we've been waiting for. Forge builds their fancy tech. He's tough and no nonsense. Adam Beach is tough, non nonsense, and deserved so much better than freaking Slipknot. Lastly, Jubilee is on staff at the school, and is entrusted with supervising the students on their big trip. Kelly Marie Tran's energy and enthusiasm is a great match for Jubilee, and I'm sure she'd be over the moon at a chance to star in another huge fan franchise.


Alex Summers (Havoc): Dacre Montgomery --- Quentin Quire: Finn Wolfhard
Idie Okonkwo (Oya): Sennia Nanua --- Hisako Ichiki (Armor): Piper Curda

And then there's the kids. Alex Summers has been "graduated" for some time. However, he is kept from field duty as he struggles to control his powers. He idolizes his heroic older brother, but their relationship is strained by Scott's protective nature. Dacre Montgomery is a rising star that can convincingly bring star status and a rebellious flair to Havoc, and looks enough like a young Chris Pine to pull off the brotherly bond that was utterly ignored in the previous franchise. Quentin Quire and Finn Wolfhard are the perfect match. As one of the biggest teen stars working today, he's a big catch for the MCU and his brand of belligerent punk to the young, aimless mutant who's ready to be a hero. Or a villain. Anything that would be more interesting than school. Idie in contrast is shy and afraid of her own power, she'd rather be "cured" than trained. Sennia Nanua's starring turn in "The Girl With All the Gifts" highlighted the talent set to bring this complicated young mutant to life. Hisako is a leader in the making, but feels a raging warrior spirit that none of her would be mentors have managed to connect with.


Victor Borkowski (Anole): Levi Miller --- Nezhno Abidemi (Gentle): Dante Brown
Cessily Kincaid (Mercury): Sophia Lilis

Rounding out the students are Victor, an brilliant student kicked out of Dr. McCoy's labs one too many times for his short-tempered "chip on the shoulder" attitude. Nezhno's placement in New York is the result of a tentative deal with his King, T'Challa, and as such finds himself overly protected by his teachers as he struggles to learn how to balance inner peace with the rage that fuels his power. Cessily is the most innocent of the team. Sheltered her whole life, she is wholly unperpared to be dropped into the worst humanity has to offer.


Polaris: Naomi Scott --- "Black Tom" Cassidy: Ewan McGregor --- Cain Marko: Adam Baldwin

Magneto may not physically be in this movie, but his presence is felt as a global urban legend, a hero for those fighting oppression. That presence is more literally translated through his daughter, Polaris, who carries all of her father's power, passion, and charisma, but less cynicism. Rapidly rising star Naomi Scott can bring A-List casting to a part central to the new franchise. Our main villains are then Black Tom, lent his trademark deadly gentleman's charm by Ewan McGregor, and Cain Marko, played to his brutish best by Adam Baldwin, as mercenaries with a map to the legendary Crimson Gem of Cyttotark.

​

The Plot

Spoiler

We first meet Idie Okonkwo on the run from a mob after accidentally killing two would be assaulters. She is rescued by the X-Men and brought back to Xavier's New York estate, where we are introduced to the mutant's status quo. Charles has been operating for an unspecified number of years to cover up and protect the growing mutant population, not believing humanity is ready to know the truth. He supervises field agents worldwide, but the Gold Squad, stationed at his home base, is the A-Team of the X-Men, led by his earliest and finest students.

Idie is enrolled at the school but struggles to fit in. We meet her fellow students and the rest of the school staff. Alex Summers is introduced, having failed once again to pass the tests instrumented by his loving but over-protective older brother. He is assigned to help Jubilee supervise her class on a trip to London aimed at helping integrate Idie to the group. Instead, he and the new students bond over their frustration with staying in hiding, desiring instead to be public heroes. Quentin and Victor promptly wonder off and run into the mercenary gang led by "Black Tom" Cassidy and Cain Marko.

The other students are drawn into a very public fight with the mercs, before ditching Jubilee after discovering their enemies' goal: The legendary Crystal Gem of Cyttotark, an ancient mystical gem of incredible power. The X-Men quickly arrive to try and clean up the mess, only to have their cover blown. Upon returning to the mansion, they clash over what has gone wrong and what to do next. Professor Xavier dispenses words of wisdom and encourages a troubled Scott, but he is unable to find the students using Cerebro.

The students, Alex and tow, crashland into an isolated jungle where reality is warped by the powers of the Gem, guarding itself with beasts from eras long ago, known to the few natives and explorers to have ever returned from its grasp as "The Savage Land". There they meet and team-up with Polaris, who is searching for the gem on orders from her father, and quickly begins a flirtatious relationship with Alex.

After fighting through dinosaurs, mercenaries, and a treacherous landscape, the Temple of Cyttotark is reached. But Cassidy and Marko got their first. Marko recklessly siezes the gem and is transformed into the unstoppable Juggernaut. This sudden spike in power alerts Xavier. The students put up a valient fight against Black Tom and Juggernaut, but they are ultimately only saved by the arrival of the X-Men. The villains are defeated, the Gem placed in safe-keeping and the students grounded. Xavier, accepting the inevitable has finally happened, catches everyone off guard by airing a press conference in which he announces the existence of mutants to the world. The teachers and students, their relationship now incredibly rocky, must face a whole new world together.

POST CREDIT SCENE: Introduction of Magneto, complete with a necessarily iconic theme, saving some persecuted mutant from execution​

 

[Shikamaru]

Uncle Ben's death is there to start Peter's hero journey but he's not directly important to it after that, Xavier is. Unless the X-Men pre-existed way longer than Spider-Man (unlikely), they probably won't go there.

Having said that, Xavier is the most burdensome casting role. Wolverine and Magneto can be saved for later, Xavier kinda can't. Part of why I pipedream of them pulling a Judy Dench and bringing back McAvoy.

 

[DrCosmic]

Yeah, Uncle Ben's death is origin story stuff, Aunt May's and Xavier's are not.

I am all Xaviered and Magnetoed out after the Fox series in which both characters were far more omnipresent than they were in the comics.

Me too, which is why I wouldn't center on Xavier and give him all this character development. He'd be more of a stock mentor/Obi-Wan/Morpheus/Dumbledore. This is the role he was made for, and he's good with it. His chief relationship would be as a teacher, and not as a rival, or a romantic lead or what all he was in the Fox films.

Completed my pitch for the first movie in my personal MCU X-Men Franchise

Spoiler

The Cast


Cyclops: Chris Pine --- Jean Grey: Blake Lively --- Storm: Tracy Ifeachor

With his time in the DCEU one and done, it's time Marvel complete their collection of Hollywood's Chris Quartet and sweep up Chris Pine. And there's no better part for him than Scott Summers, leader of the X-Men Field Team. Cyclops has been constantly disserviced time and again over the years, now is our chance to see him as a master tactician, the "golden boy" who privately struggles with the wieght of his surrogate father's vision. Chris Pine brings A-List charisma and a superhero aura to ensure Scott won't be overshadowed by the inevitable arrival of Wolverine. Jean Grey is Scott's second half. While he makes the plans, Jean deals with the person to person empathy that Scott struggles with. She is the "den mother" of the X-Men. Tracy Ifeachor then brings new life to Storm whose tough independence has yet to be properly portrayed on the big screen. In-universe, these are the three oldest X-Men, forming a well-oiled machine at the heart of the global operations.


Iceman: Chris Colfer --- Blink: Alia Shawkat --- Rictor: Carlos PenaVega

Rounding out the "Alpha" New York field team was hard. There's so many X-Men to choose from, and you want to keep a nice mi of power-sets, personalities, and characters that haven't been stars before. One I'm 100% sold on being needed no matter what is Iceman. I still have mixed feelings on his "outing" in the comics, but as he stands, he's Marvel's biggest gay character. And it's high time the MCU debuts their first openly gay hero. Casting Glee icon Chris Colfer would make it an even bigger deal, and he'd perfectly pull off Bobby's joking, confident in who he is attitude that keeps the team lively. Blink was hard to choose, because Nightcrawler is my all-time favorite X-Men. However, he's starred in both of the past franchises, and his personality kind of overlaps with Bobby. So this time around I chose Alia Shawkat to bring to life the brash, occaisonally reckless Blink (This time finally in full pink-skinned makeup). Lastly Rictor is Bobby's opposite. Awkward and introverted, his bombastic powerset hides his uncomfortable, bleak mindset, which his close friend and potential partner Bobby struggles to alleviate.


Charles Xavier: Denzel Washington --- Dr. Hank McCoy: Leslie Odom Jr.
Forge: Adam Beach --- Jubilee: Kelly Marie Tran

Following up performances by Sir Patrick Stewart and James McAvoy is no small task. To play Professor X you need someone of Denzel Washington's caliber. He brings intelligence, charisma, a paternal instinct, and the ability to pull off underlying moral ambiguity to Xavier, as this franchise will be exploring his darker side. Dr. Hank McCoy is the head of the mutant science team. Leslie Odom Jr. has the excessive charm to shine through plenty of blue furry makeup to give us the witty and sarcastic science guy we've been waiting for. Forge builds their fancy tech. He's tough and no nonsense. Adam Beach is tough, non nonsense, and deserved so much better than freaking Slipknot. Lastly, Jubilee is on staff at the school, and is entrusted with supervising the students on their big trip. Kelly Marie Tran's energy and enthusiasm is a great match for Jubilee, and I'm sure she'd be over the moon at a chance to star in another huge fan franchise.


Alex Summers (Havoc): Dacre Montgomery --- Quentin Quire: Finn Wolfhard
Idie Okonkwo (Oya): Sennia Nanua --- Hisako Ichiki (Armor): Piper Curda

And then there's the kids. Alex Summers has been "graduated" for some time. However, he is kept from field duty as he struggles to control his powers. He idolizes his heroic older brother, but their relationship is strained by Scott's protective nature. Dacre Montgomery is a rising star that can convincingly bring star status and a rebellious flair to Havoc, and looks enough like a young Chris Pine to pull off the brotherly bond that was utterly ignored in the previous franchise. Quentin Quire and Finn Wolfhard are the perfect match. As one of the biggest teen stars working today, he's a big catch for the MCU and his brand of belligerent punk to the young, aimless mutant who's ready to be a hero. Or a villain. Anything that would be more interesting than school. Idie in contrast is shy and afraid of her own power, she'd rather be "cured" than trained. Sennia Nanua's starring turn in "The Girl With All the Gifts" highlighted the talent set to bring this complicated young mutant to life. Hisako is a leader in the making, but feels a raging warrior spirit that none of her would be mentors have managed to connect with.


Victor Borkowski (Anole): Levi Miller --- Nezhno Abidemi (Gentle): Dante Brown
Cessily Kincaid (Mercury): Sophia Lilis

Rounding out the students are Victor, an brilliant student kicked out of Dr. McCoy's labs one too many times for his short-tempered "chip on the shoulder" attitude. Nezhno's placement in New York is the result of a tentative deal with his King, T'Challa, and as such finds himself overly protected by his teachers as he struggles to learn how to balance inner peace with the rage that fuels his power. Cessily is the most innocent of the team. Sheltered her whole life, she is wholly unperpared to be dropped into the worst humanity has to offer.


Polaris: Naomi Scott --- "Black Tom" Cassidy: Ewan McGregor --- Cain Marko: Adam Baldwin

Magneto may not physically be in this movie, but his presence is felt as a global urban legend, a hero for those fighting oppression. That presence is more literally translated through his daughter, Polaris, who carries all of her father's power, passion, and charisma, but less cynicism. Rapidly rising star Naomi Scott can bring A-List casting to a part central to the new franchise. Our main villains are then Black Tom, lent his trademark deadly gentleman's charm by Ewan McGregor, and Cain Marko, played to his brutish best by Adam Baldwin, as mercenaries with a map to the legendary Crimson Gem of Cyttotark.

​

The Plot

Spoiler

We first meet Idie Okonkwo on the run from a mob after accidentally killing two would be assaulters. She is rescued by the X-Men and brought back to Xavier's New York estate, where we are introduced to the mutant's status quo. Charles has been operating for an unspecified number of years to cover up and protect the growing mutant population, not believing humanity is ready to know the truth. He supervises field agents worldwide, but the Gold Squad, stationed at his home base, is the A-Team of the X-Men, led by his earliest and finest students.

Idie is enrolled at the school but struggles to fit in. We meet her fellow students and the rest of the school staff. Alex Summers is introduced, having failed once again to pass the tests instrumented by his loving but over-protective older brother. He is assigned to help Jubilee supervise her class on a trip to London aimed at helping integrate Idie to the group. Instead, he and the new students bond over their frustration with staying in hiding, desiring instead to be public heroes. Quentin and Victor promptly wonder off and run into the mercenary gang led by "Black Tom" Cassidy and Cain Marko.

The other students are drawn into a very public fight with the mercs, before ditching Jubilee after discovering their enemies' goal: The legendary Crystal Gem of Cyttotark, an ancient mystical gem of incredible power. The X-Men quickly arrive to try and clean up the mess, only to have their cover blown. Upon returning to the mansion, they clash over what has gone wrong and what to do next. Professor Xavier dispenses words of wisdom and encourages a troubled Scott, but he is unable to find the students using Cerebro.

The students, Alex and tow, crashland into an isolated jungle where reality is warped by the powers of the Gem, guarding itself with beasts from eras long ago, known to the few natives and explorers to have ever returned from its grasp as "The Savage Land". There they meet and team-up with Polaris, who is searching for the gem on orders from her father, and quickly begins a flirtatious relationship with Alex.

After fighting through dinosaurs, mercenaries, and a treacherous landscape, the Temple of Cyttotark is reached. But Cassidy and Marko got their first. Marko recklessly siezes the gem and is transformed into the unstoppable Juggernaut. This sudden spike in power alerts Xavier. The students put up a valient fight against Black Tom and Juggernaut, but they are ultimately only saved by the arrival of the X-Men. The villains are defeated, the Gem placed in safe-keeping and the students grounded. Xavier, accepting the inevitable has finally happened, catches everyone off guard by airing a press conference in which he announces the existence of mutants to the world. The teachers and students, their relationship now incredibly rocky, must face a whole new world together.

POST CREDIT SCENE: Introduction of Magneto, complete with a necessarily iconic theme, saving some persecuted mutant from execution​

Interesting thoughts! I do like your inclusion of a wide suite of people. I don't think one movie could possibly introduce so many epic characters well, and the choice of MacGuffin is really interesting, and not something that sounds very mutant-y but is fresh in that it puts focus on something that traditionally hasn't gotten much. Love the Savage Land.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Completed my pitch for the first movie in my personal MCU X-Men Franchise

Spoiler

The Cast


Cyclops: Chris Pine --- Jean Grey: Blake Lively --- Storm: Tracy Ifeachor

With his time in the DCEU one and done, it's time Marvel complete their collection of Hollywood's Chris Quartet and sweep up Chris Pine. And there's no better part for him than Scott Summers, leader of the X-Men Field Team. Cyclops has been constantly disserviced time and again over the years, now is our chance to see him as a master tactician, the "golden boy" who privately struggles with the wieght of his surrogate father's vision. Chris Pine brings A-List charisma and a superhero aura to ensure Scott won't be overshadowed by the inevitable arrival of Wolverine. Jean Grey is Scott's second half. While he makes the plans, Jean deals with the person to person empathy that Scott struggles with. She is the "den mother" of the X-Men. Tracy Ifeachor then brings new life to Storm whose tough independence has yet to be properly portrayed on the big screen. In-universe, these are the three oldest X-Men, forming a well-oiled machine at the heart of the global operations.


Iceman: Chris Colfer --- Blink: Alia Shawkat --- Rictor: Carlos PenaVega

Rounding out the "Alpha" New York field team was hard. There's so many X-Men to choose from, and you want to keep a nice mi of power-sets, personalities, and characters that haven't been stars before. One I'm 100% sold on being needed no matter what is Iceman. I still have mixed feelings on his "outing" in the comics, but as he stands, he's Marvel's biggest gay character. And it's high time the MCU debuts their first openly gay hero. Casting Glee icon Chris Colfer would make it an even bigger deal, and he'd perfectly pull off Bobby's joking, confident in who he is attitude that keeps the team lively. Blink was hard to choose, because Nightcrawler is my all-time favorite X-Men. However, he's starred in both of the past franchises, and his personality kind of overlaps with Bobby. So this time around I chose Alia Shawkat to bring to life the brash, occaisonally reckless Blink (This time finally in full pink-skinned makeup). Lastly Rictor is Bobby's opposite. Awkward and introverted, his bombastic powerset hides his uncomfortable, bleak mindset, which his close friend and potential partner Bobby struggles to alleviate.


Charles Xavier: Denzel Washington --- Dr. Hank McCoy: Leslie Odom Jr.
Forge: Adam Beach --- Jubilee: Kelly Marie Tran

Following up performances by Sir Patrick Stewart and James McAvoy is no small task. To play Professor X you need someone of Denzel Washington's caliber. He brings intelligence, charisma, a paternal instinct, and the ability to pull off underlying moral ambiguity to Xavier, as this franchise will be exploring his darker side. Dr. Hank McCoy is the head of the mutant science team. Leslie Odom Jr. has the excessive charm to shine through plenty of blue furry makeup to give us the witty and sarcastic science guy we've been waiting for. Forge builds their fancy tech. He's tough and no nonsense. Adam Beach is tough, non nonsense, and deserved so much better than freaking Slipknot. Lastly, Jubilee is on staff at the school, and is entrusted with supervising the students on their big trip. Kelly Marie Tran's energy and enthusiasm is a great match for Jubilee, and I'm sure she'd be over the moon at a chance to star in another huge fan franchise.


Alex Summers (Havoc): Dacre Montgomery --- Quentin Quire: Finn Wolfhard
Idie Okonkwo (Oya): Sennia Nanua --- Hisako Ichiki (Armor): Piper Curda

And then there's the kids. Alex Summers has been "graduated" for some time. However, he is kept from field duty as he struggles to control his powers. He idolizes his heroic older brother, but their relationship is strained by Scott's protective nature. Dacre Montgomery is a rising star that can convincingly bring star status and a rebellious flair to Havoc, and looks enough like a young Chris Pine to pull off the brotherly bond that was utterly ignored in the previous franchise. Quentin Quire and Finn Wolfhard are the perfect match. As one of the biggest teen stars working today, he's a big catch for the MCU and his brand of belligerent punk to the young, aimless mutant who's ready to be a hero. Or a villain. Anything that would be more interesting than school. Idie in contrast is shy and afraid of her own power, she'd rather be "cured" than trained. Sennia Nanua's starring turn in "The Girl With All the Gifts" highlighted the talent set to bring this complicated young mutant to life. Hisako is a leader in the making, but feels a raging warrior spirit that none of her would be mentors have managed to connect with.


Victor Borkowski (Anole): Levi Miller --- Nezhno Abidemi (Gentle): Dante Brown
Cessily Kincaid (Mercury): Sophia Lilis

Rounding out the students are Victor, an brilliant student kicked out of Dr. McCoy's labs one too many times for his short-tempered "chip on the shoulder" attitude. Nezhno's placement in New York is the result of a tentative deal with his King, T'Challa, and as such finds himself overly protected by his teachers as he struggles to learn how to balance inner peace with the rage that fuels his power. Cessily is the most innocent of the team. Sheltered her whole life, she is wholly unperpared to be dropped into the worst humanity has to offer.


Polaris: Naomi Scott --- "Black Tom" Cassidy: Ewan McGregor --- Cain Marko: Adam Baldwin

Magneto may not physically be in this movie, but his presence is felt as a global urban legend, a hero for those fighting oppression. That presence is more literally translated through his daughter, Polaris, who carries all of her father's power, passion, and charisma, but less cynicism. Rapidly rising star Naomi Scott can bring A-List casting to a part central to the new franchise. Our main villains are then Black Tom, lent his trademark deadly gentleman's charm by Ewan McGregor, and Cain Marko, played to his brutish best by Adam Baldwin, as mercenaries with a map to the legendary Crimson Gem of Cyttotark.

​

The Plot

Spoiler

We first meet Idie Okonkwo on the run from a mob after accidentally killing two would be assaulters. She is rescued by the X-Men and brought back to Xavier's New York estate, where we are introduced to the mutant's status quo. Charles has been operating for an unspecified number of years to cover up and protect the growing mutant population, not believing humanity is ready to know the truth. He supervises field agents worldwide, but the Gold Squad, stationed at his home base, is the A-Team of the X-Men, led by his earliest and finest students.

Idie is enrolled at the school but struggles to fit in. We meet her fellow students and the rest of the school staff. Alex Summers is introduced, having failed once again to pass the tests instrumented by his loving but over-protective older brother. He is assigned to help Jubilee supervise her class on a trip to London aimed at helping integrate Idie to the group. Instead, he and the new students bond over their frustration with staying in hiding, desiring instead to be public heroes. Quentin and Victor promptly wonder off and run into the mercenary gang led by "Black Tom" Cassidy and Cain Marko.

The other students are drawn into a very public fight with the mercs, before ditching Jubilee after discovering their enemies' goal: The legendary Crystal Gem of Cyttotark, an ancient mystical gem of incredible power. The X-Men quickly arrive to try and clean up the mess, only to have their cover blown. Upon returning to the mansion, they clash over what has gone wrong and what to do next. Professor Xavier dispenses words of wisdom and encourages a troubled Scott, but he is unable to find the students using Cerebro.

The students, Alex and tow, crashland into an isolated jungle where reality is warped by the powers of the Gem, guarding itself with beasts from eras long ago, known to the few natives and explorers to have ever returned from its grasp as "The Savage Land". There they meet and team-up with Polaris, who is searching for the gem on orders from her father, and quickly begins a flirtatious relationship with Alex.

After fighting through dinosaurs, mercenaries, and a treacherous landscape, the Temple of Cyttotark is reached. But Cassidy and Marko got their first. Marko recklessly siezes the gem and is transformed into the unstoppable Juggernaut. This sudden spike in power alerts Xavier. The students put up a valient fight against Black Tom and Juggernaut, but they are ultimately only saved by the arrival of the X-Men. The villains are defeated, the Gem placed in safe-keeping and the students grounded. Xavier, accepting the inevitable has finally happened, catches everyone off guard by airing a press conference in which he announces the existence of mutants to the world. The teachers and students, their relationship now incredibly rocky, must face a whole new world together.

POST CREDIT SCENE: Introduction of Magneto, complete with a necessarily iconic theme, saving some persecuted mutant from execution​

My thoughts on your pitch is that its probably too much for one film. The first MCU X-Men movie will have to establish that mutants exist in the MCU. That's a big thing you have to focus on, because its a significant thing to add to an already established and existing superhero universe. Introducing the Savage Land is probably something you want to save for another movie.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Interesting thoughts! I do like your inclusion of a wide suite of people. I don't think one movie could possibly introduce so many epic characters well, and the choice of MacGuffin is really interesting, and not something that sounds very mutant-y but is fresh in that it puts focus on something that traditionally hasn't gotten much. Love the Savage Land.

My thoughts on your pitch is that its probably too much for one film. The first MCU X-Men movie will have to establish that mutants exist in the MCU. That's a big thing you have to focus on, because its a significant thing to add to an already established and existing superhero universe. Introducing the Savage Land is probably something you want to save for another movie.

Thanks for the feedback! Personally, I think the best way to introduce a world as in depth as the X-Men is to "Show, Don't Tell". They should establish a "lived-in" world like Star Wars or, in Marvel's case, GOTG, where we get to know concepts and characters as they're just there, and get brought up, not going into depth to say why or how they came to be beyond what you need to know to understand the story. You can very easily stumble into too much exposition if you try to explain everything when you don't have to.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Thanks for the feedback! Personally, I think the best way to introduce a world as in depth as the X-Men is to "Show, Don't Tell". They should establish a "lived-in" world like Star Wars or, in Marvel's case, GOTG, where we get to know concepts and characters as they're just there, and get brought up, not going into depth to say why or how they came to be beyond what you need to know to understand the story. You can very easily stumble into too much exposition if you try to explain everything when you don't have to.

The problem with lived in world is that the viewer has lived in the MCU world for a decade with no evidence of discrimination against Mutants, or any acknowledgements that they existed. If they did why would Secretary Ross worry about losing track of mere super soldiers when laws of physics defying mutants have been running around for exactly how long?

Why did Captain America among other "heroes" only worry about his freedom of action and not what was happening to the poor mutants when the Sokovian Accords came up? Whatever is happening to Mutant kind story wise is happening right now. There is no extensive history that the older mutants, should they exist, have been fighting for or against while recruiting the emerging mutants to their side.

 

[CaptainWagner]

That potential issue has already been surpassed with sorcerers, though. If the audience can accept them operating in secret for centuries, why not mutants operating in secret for a few decades?

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Thanks for the feedback! Personally, I think the best way to introduce a world as in depth as the X-Men is to "Show, Don't Tell". They should establish a "lived-in" world like Star Wars or, in Marvel's case, GOTG, where we get to know concepts and characters as they're just there, and get brought up, not going into depth to say why or how they came to be beyond what you need to know to understand the story. You can very easily stumble into too much exposition if you try to explain everything when you don't have to.

I do agree with this. But it does seem like you have two separate plots going on that don't really connect to each other or tie some central theme together. Like... what does Black Tom and Juggernaut trying to get a reality warping jem from the Savage Land have to do with mutants and their place in the world? It seems like two different movies being meshed together, rather then one movie with a core thematic focus.

 

[Marvel united]

That potential issue has already been surpassed with sorcerers, though. If the audience can accept them operating in secret for centuries, why not mutants operating in secret for a few decades?

Because Sorcerers don't operate in the same plane of existence, their battles take place in a a completely different pocket dimension. Their enemies come from alternate realities etc Apples and Oranges. I could buy a small number of mutants having existed for a few decades, blending into Society (Wolverine, Xavier, Erik etc) but I can't buy the idea of an X-Men that has existed for nearly 20 years with the School for Gifted Youngsters already flourishing with dozens of students prior to when we meet them in their first solo film. It just opens up too many plot holes and unnecessarily convolut the MCU continuity. Remember how much of a fit people threw over the "8 years later" fiasco? Now magnify that 10x. The best way to do this is to either start from the very beginning, start with a recently formed team or start with the X-Men having formed only a few years prior to when we meet them

 

[DrCosmic]

That potential issue has already been surpassed with sorcerers, though. If the audience can accept them operating in secret for centuries, why not mutants operating in secret for a few decades?

X-Men operating in secret... maybe, Xavier can offer as much justification as the mirror dimension perhaps, and his student would naturally stay secret if he says so, but all mutants all around the world? That's kinda silly, and invalidates public fears of them, since they're so well controlled.

Because Sorcerers don't operate in the same plane of existence, their battles take place in a a completely different pocket dimension. Their enemies come from alternate realities etc Apples and Oranges. I could buy a small number of mutants having existed for a few decades, blending into Society (Wolverine, Xavier, Erik etc) but I can't buy the idea of an X-Men that has existed for nearly 20 years with the School for Gifted Youngsters already flourishing with dozens of students prior to when we meet them in their first solo film. It just opens up too many plot holes and unnecessarily convolut the MCU continuity. Remember how much of a fit people threw over the "8 years later" fiasco? Now magnify that 10x. The best way to do this is to either start from the very beginning, start with a recently formed team or start with the X-Men having formed only a few years prior to when we meet them

Ha! I remember that. Honestly I haven't really tried to figure out MCU continuity since. That realtime sweetness was so simple and beautiful I don't want whatever it is that's happening now. In fact, in my head it just says '5 years later.' Maybe if it's clear that IW takes place several years after Civil War, maybe things will pan out at that point, but...ecch.

The problem with lived in world is that the viewer has lived in the MCU world for a decade with no evidence of discrimination against Mutants, or any acknowledgements that they existed. If they did why would Secretary Ross worry about losing track of mere super soldiers when laws of physics defying mutants have been running around for exactly how long?

Why did Captain America among other "heroes" only worry about his freedom of action and not what was happening to the poor mutants when the Sokovian Accords came up? Whatever is happening to Mutant kind story wise is happening right now. There is no extensive history that the older mutants, should they exist, have been fighting for or against while recruiting the emerging mutants to their side.

BOOM. The MCU is already lived-in, and so if you want the world of the X-Men to be lived in differently than the lived in world of the Avengers, then you have to put them on different worlds or in different dimensions, like the Guardians and Kamar Taj. Or just have the lived-in-ness conflict, they could probably do that, and people would complain but go see the film anyway because its Marvel and X-Men.

 

[Mad Ones]

Completed my pitch for the first movie in my personal MCU X-Men Franchise

Spoiler

The Cast


Cyclops: Chris Pine --- Jean Grey: Blake Lively --- Storm: Tracy Ifeachor

With his time in the DCEU one and done, it's time Marvel complete their collection of Hollywood's Chris Quartet and sweep up Chris Pine. And there's no better part for him than Scott Summers, leader of the X-Men Field Team. Cyclops has been constantly disserviced time and again over the years, now is our chance to see him as a master tactician, the "golden boy" who privately struggles with the wieght of his surrogate father's vision. Chris Pine brings A-List charisma and a superhero aura to ensure Scott won't be overshadowed by the inevitable arrival of Wolverine. Jean Grey is Scott's second half. While he makes the plans, Jean deals with the person to person empathy that Scott struggles with. She is the "den mother" of the X-Men. Tracy Ifeachor then brings new life to Storm whose tough independence has yet to be properly portrayed on the big screen. In-universe, these are the three oldest X-Men, forming a well-oiled machine at the heart of the global operations.


Iceman: Chris Colfer --- Blink: Alia Shawkat --- Rictor: Carlos PenaVega

Rounding out the "Alpha" New York field team was hard. There's so many X-Men to choose from, and you want to keep a nice mi of power-sets, personalities, and characters that haven't been stars before. One I'm 100% sold on being needed no matter what is Iceman. I still have mixed feelings on his "outing" in the comics, but as he stands, he's Marvel's biggest gay character. And it's high time the MCU debuts their first openly gay hero. Casting Glee icon Chris Colfer would make it an even bigger deal, and he'd perfectly pull off Bobby's joking, confident in who he is attitude that keeps the team lively. Blink was hard to choose, because Nightcrawler is my all-time favorite X-Men. However, he's starred in both of the past franchises, and his personality kind of overlaps with Bobby. So this time around I chose Alia Shawkat to bring to life the brash, occaisonally reckless Blink (This time finally in full pink-skinned makeup). Lastly Rictor is Bobby's opposite. Awkward and introverted, his bombastic powerset hides his uncomfortable, bleak mindset, which his close friend and potential partner Bobby struggles to alleviate.


Charles Xavier: Denzel Washington --- Dr. Hank McCoy: Leslie Odom Jr.
Forge: Adam Beach --- Jubilee: Kelly Marie Tran

Following up performances by Sir Patrick Stewart and James McAvoy is no small task. To play Professor X you need someone of Denzel Washington's caliber. He brings intelligence, charisma, a paternal instinct, and the ability to pull off underlying moral ambiguity to Xavier, as this franchise will be exploring his darker side. Dr. Hank McCoy is the head of the mutant science team. Leslie Odom Jr. has the excessive charm to shine through plenty of blue furry makeup to give us the witty and sarcastic science guy we've been waiting for. Forge builds their fancy tech. He's tough and no nonsense. Adam Beach is tough, non nonsense, and deserved so much better than freaking Slipknot. Lastly, Jubilee is on staff at the school, and is entrusted with supervising the students on their big trip. Kelly Marie Tran's energy and enthusiasm is a great match for Jubilee, and I'm sure she'd be over the moon at a chance to star in another huge fan franchise.


Alex Summers (Havoc): Dacre Montgomery --- Quentin Quire: Finn Wolfhard
Idie Okonkwo (Oya): Sennia Nanua --- Hisako Ichiki (Armor): Piper Curda

And then there's the kids. Alex Summers has been "graduated" for some time. However, he is kept from field duty as he struggles to control his powers. He idolizes his heroic older brother, but their relationship is strained by Scott's protective nature. Dacre Montgomery is a rising star that can convincingly bring star status and a rebellious flair to Havoc, and looks enough like a young Chris Pine to pull off the brotherly bond that was utterly ignored in the previous franchise. Quentin Quire and Finn Wolfhard are the perfect match. As one of the biggest teen stars working today, he's a big catch for the MCU and his brand of belligerent punk to the young, aimless mutant who's ready to be a hero. Or a villain. Anything that would be more interesting than school. Idie in contrast is shy and afraid of her own power, she'd rather be "cured" than trained. Sennia Nanua's starring turn in "The Girl With All the Gifts" highlighted the talent set to bring this complicated young mutant to life. Hisako is a leader in the making, but feels a raging warrior spirit that none of her would be mentors have managed to connect with.


Victor Borkowski (Anole): Levi Miller --- Nezhno Abidemi (Gentle): Dante Brown
Cessily Kincaid (Mercury): Sophia Lilis

Rounding out the students are Victor, an brilliant student kicked out of Dr. McCoy's labs one too many times for his short-tempered "chip on the shoulder" attitude. Nezhno's placement in New York is the result of a tentative deal with his King, T'Challa, and as such finds himself overly protected by his teachers as he struggles to learn how to balance inner peace with the rage that fuels his power. Cessily is the most innocent of the team. Sheltered her whole life, she is wholly unperpared to be dropped into the worst humanity has to offer.


Polaris: Naomi Scott --- "Black Tom" Cassidy: Ewan McGregor --- Cain Marko: Adam Baldwin

Magneto may not physically be in this movie, but his presence is felt as a global urban legend, a hero for those fighting oppression. That presence is more literally translated through his daughter, Polaris, who carries all of her father's power, passion, and charisma, but less cynicism. Rapidly rising star Naomi Scott can bring A-List casting to a part central to the new franchise. Our main villains are then Black Tom, lent his trademark deadly gentleman's charm by Ewan McGregor, and Cain Marko, played to his brutish best by Adam Baldwin, as mercenaries with a map to the legendary Crimson Gem of Cyttotark.

​

The Plot

Spoiler

We first meet Idie Okonkwo on the run from a mob after accidentally killing two would be assaulters. She is rescued by the X-Men and brought back to Xavier's New York estate, where we are introduced to the mutant's status quo. Charles has been operating for an unspecified number of years to cover up and protect the growing mutant population, not believing humanity is ready to know the truth. He supervises field agents worldwide, but the Gold Squad, stationed at his home base, is the A-Team of the X-Men, led by his earliest and finest students.

Idie is enrolled at the school but struggles to fit in. We meet her fellow students and the rest of the school staff. Alex Summers is introduced, having failed once again to pass the tests instrumented by his loving but over-protective older brother. He is assigned to help Jubilee supervise her class on a trip to London aimed at helping integrate Idie to the group. Instead, he and the new students bond over their frustration with staying in hiding, desiring instead to be public heroes. Quentin and Victor promptly wonder off and run into the mercenary gang led by "Black Tom" Cassidy and Cain Marko.

The other students are drawn into a very public fight with the mercs, before ditching Jubilee after discovering their enemies' goal: The legendary Crystal Gem of Cyttotark, an ancient mystical gem of incredible power. The X-Men quickly arrive to try and clean up the mess, only to have their cover blown. Upon returning to the mansion, they clash over what has gone wrong and what to do next. Professor Xavier dispenses words of wisdom and encourages a troubled Scott, but he is unable to find the students using Cerebro.

The students, Alex and tow, crashland into an isolated jungle where reality is warped by the powers of the Gem, guarding itself with beasts from eras long ago, known to the few natives and explorers to have ever returned from its grasp as "The Savage Land". There they meet and team-up with Polaris, who is searching for the gem on orders from her father, and quickly begins a flirtatious relationship with Alex.

After fighting through dinosaurs, mercenaries, and a treacherous landscape, the Temple of Cyttotark is reached. But Cassidy and Marko got their first. Marko recklessly siezes the gem and is transformed into the unstoppable Juggernaut. This sudden spike in power alerts Xavier. The students put up a valient fight against Black Tom and Juggernaut, but they are ultimately only saved by the arrival of the X-Men. The villains are defeated, the Gem placed in safe-keeping and the students grounded. Xavier, accepting the inevitable has finally happened, catches everyone off guard by airing a press conference in which he announces the existence of mutants to the world. The teachers and students, their relationship now incredibly rocky, must face a whole new world together.

POST CREDIT SCENE: Introduction of Magneto, complete with a necessarily iconic theme, saving some persecuted mutant from execution​

This is a really super awesome cast. Love it.

 

[Boy Scout]

Completed my pitch for the first movie in my personal MCU X-Men Franchise

Spoiler

The Cast


Cyclops: Chris Pine --- Jean Grey: Blake Lively --- Storm: Tracy Ifeachor

With his time in the DCEU one and done, it's time Marvel complete their collection of Hollywood's Chris Quartet and sweep up Chris Pine. And there's no better part for him than Scott Summers, leader of the X-Men Field Team. Cyclops has been constantly disserviced time and again over the years, now is our chance to see him as a master tactician, the "golden boy" who privately struggles with the wieght of his surrogate father's vision. Chris Pine brings A-List charisma and a superhero aura to ensure Scott won't be overshadowed by the inevitable arrival of Wolverine. Jean Grey is Scott's second half. While he makes the plans, Jean deals with the person to person empathy that Scott struggles with. She is the "den mother" of the X-Men. Tracy Ifeachor then brings new life to Storm whose tough independence has yet to be properly portrayed on the big screen. In-universe, these are the three oldest X-Men, forming a well-oiled machine at the heart of the global operations.


Iceman: Chris Colfer --- Blink: Alia Shawkat --- Rictor: Carlos PenaVega

Rounding out the "Alpha" New York field team was hard. There's so many X-Men to choose from, and you want to keep a nice mi of power-sets, personalities, and characters that haven't been stars before. One I'm 100% sold on being needed no matter what is Iceman. I still have mixed feelings on his "outing" in the comics, but as he stands, he's Marvel's biggest gay character. And it's high time the MCU debuts their first openly gay hero. Casting Glee icon Chris Colfer would make it an even bigger deal, and he'd perfectly pull off Bobby's joking, confident in who he is attitude that keeps the team lively. Blink was hard to choose, because Nightcrawler is my all-time favorite X-Men. However, he's starred in both of the past franchises, and his personality kind of overlaps with Bobby. So this time around I chose Alia Shawkat to bring to life the brash, occaisonally reckless Blink (This time finally in full pink-skinned makeup). Lastly Rictor is Bobby's opposite. Awkward and introverted, his bombastic powerset hides his uncomfortable, bleak mindset, which his close friend and potential partner Bobby struggles to alleviate.


Charles Xavier: Denzel Washington --- Dr. Hank McCoy: Leslie Odom Jr.
Forge: Adam Beach --- Jubilee: Kelly Marie Tran

Following up performances by Sir Patrick Stewart and James McAvoy is no small task. To play Professor X you need someone of Denzel Washington's caliber. He brings intelligence, charisma, a paternal instinct, and the ability to pull off underlying moral ambiguity to Xavier, as this franchise will be exploring his darker side. Dr. Hank McCoy is the head of the mutant science team. Leslie Odom Jr. has the excessive charm to shine through plenty of blue furry makeup to give us the witty and sarcastic science guy we've been waiting for. Forge builds their fancy tech. He's tough and no nonsense. Adam Beach is tough, non nonsense, and deserved so much better than freaking Slipknot. Lastly, Jubilee is on staff at the school, and is entrusted with supervising the students on their big trip. Kelly Marie Tran's energy and enthusiasm is a great match for Jubilee, and I'm sure she'd be over the moon at a chance to star in another huge fan franchise.


Alex Summers (Havoc): Dacre Montgomery --- Quentin Quire: Finn Wolfhard
Idie Okonkwo (Oya): Sennia Nanua --- Hisako Ichiki (Armor): Piper Curda

And then there's the kids. Alex Summers has been "graduated" for some time. However, he is kept from field duty as he struggles to control his powers. He idolizes his heroic older brother, but their relationship is strained by Scott's protective nature. Dacre Montgomery is a rising star that can convincingly bring star status and a rebellious flair to Havoc, and looks enough like a young Chris Pine to pull off the brotherly bond that was utterly ignored in the previous franchise. Quentin Quire and Finn Wolfhard are the perfect match. As one of the biggest teen stars working today, he's a big catch for the MCU and his brand of belligerent punk to the young, aimless mutant who's ready to be a hero. Or a villain. Anything that would be more interesting than school. Idie in contrast is shy and afraid of her own power, she'd rather be "cured" than trained. Sennia Nanua's starring turn in "The Girl With All the Gifts" highlighted the talent set to bring this complicated young mutant to life. Hisako is a leader in the making, but feels a raging warrior spirit that none of her would be mentors have managed to connect with.


Victor Borkowski (Anole): Levi Miller --- Nezhno Abidemi (Gentle): Dante Brown
Cessily Kincaid (Mercury): Sophia Lilis

Rounding out the students are Victor, an brilliant student kicked out of Dr. McCoy's labs one too many times for his short-tempered "chip on the shoulder" attitude. Nezhno's placement in New York is the result of a tentative deal with his King, T'Challa, and as such finds himself overly protected by his teachers as he struggles to learn how to balance inner peace with the rage that fuels his power. Cessily is the most innocent of the team. Sheltered her whole life, she is wholly unperpared to be dropped into the worst humanity has to offer.


Polaris: Naomi Scott --- "Black Tom" Cassidy: Ewan McGregor --- Cain Marko: Adam Baldwin

Magneto may not physically be in this movie, but his presence is felt as a global urban legend, a hero for those fighting oppression. That presence is more literally translated through his daughter, Polaris, who carries all of her father's power, passion, and charisma, but less cynicism. Rapidly rising star Naomi Scott can bring A-List casting to a part central to the new franchise. Our main villains are then Black Tom, lent his trademark deadly gentleman's charm by Ewan McGregor, and Cain Marko, played to his brutish best by Adam Baldwin, as mercenaries with a map to the legendary Crimson Gem of Cyttotark.

​

The Plot

Spoiler

We first meet Idie Okonkwo on the run from a mob after accidentally killing two would be assaulters. She is rescued by the X-Men and brought back to Xavier's New York estate, where we are introduced to the mutant's status quo. Charles has been operating for an unspecified number of years to cover up and protect the growing mutant population, not believing humanity is ready to know the truth. He supervises field agents worldwide, but the Gold Squad, stationed at his home base, is the A-Team of the X-Men, led by his earliest and finest students.

Idie is enrolled at the school but struggles to fit in. We meet her fellow students and the rest of the school staff. Alex Summers is introduced, having failed once again to pass the tests instrumented by his loving but over-protective older brother. He is assigned to help Jubilee supervise her class on a trip to London aimed at helping integrate Idie to the group. Instead, he and the new students bond over their frustration with staying in hiding, desiring instead to be public heroes. Quentin and Victor promptly wonder off and run into the mercenary gang led by "Black Tom" Cassidy and Cain Marko.

The other students are drawn into a very public fight with the mercs, before ditching Jubilee after discovering their enemies' goal: The legendary Crystal Gem of Cyttotark, an ancient mystical gem of incredible power. The X-Men quickly arrive to try and clean up the mess, only to have their cover blown. Upon returning to the mansion, they clash over what has gone wrong and what to do next. Professor Xavier dispenses words of wisdom and encourages a troubled Scott, but he is unable to find the students using Cerebro.

The students, Alex and tow, crashland into an isolated jungle where reality is warped by the powers of the Gem, guarding itself with beasts from eras long ago, known to the few natives and explorers to have ever returned from its grasp as "The Savage Land". There they meet and team-up with Polaris, who is searching for the gem on orders from her father, and quickly begins a flirtatious relationship with Alex.

After fighting through dinosaurs, mercenaries, and a treacherous landscape, the Temple of Cyttotark is reached. But Cassidy and Marko got their first. Marko recklessly siezes the gem and is transformed into the unstoppable Juggernaut. This sudden spike in power alerts Xavier. The students put up a valient fight against Black Tom and Juggernaut, but they are ultimately only saved by the arrival of the X-Men. The villains are defeated, the Gem placed in safe-keeping and the students grounded. Xavier, accepting the inevitable has finally happened, catches everyone off guard by airing a press conference in which he announces the existence of mutants to the world. The teachers and students, their relationship now incredibly rocky, must face a whole new world together.

POST CREDIT SCENE: Introduction of Magneto, complete with a necessarily iconic theme, saving some persecuted mutant from execution​

Good ideas, but it all sounds like a lot for the first film.

 

[metaphysician]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it does, especially integrating with a universe that has come up with such incredible and slick explanations for comics costumes thus far, and dropped other big flappy masks, like Hawkeye's.

I mean... why do they exist in the first place? The reason we'd want it in the films is because it was in the comics, okay... but why was it in the comics at all? What is it supposed to evoke?

No idea. I tend to think Wolverine doesn't really need the mask, because he has an iconic visual even without it. Combine this with how I'd much prefer the X-Men do *not* have secret IDs, and there you go.

Basically, characters should have masks because either:

1. Its necessary to maintain a narratively-meaningful secret ID

2. It is an iconic and inseparable part of the character's image

3. It has another, notable and justifiable use within the story, that does not conflict with aesthetics

So, for example, Sam Wilson doesn't have a secret ID in the movies, and his mask really isn't an iconic part of his image. However, 'flight goggles' serve a logical purpose for his character and also work as a good image, so they fit just fine in the movie.

Wolverine? He shouldn't have a secret ID by my druthers, his mask serves no other practical purpose, and his masked look is no more iconic than his unmasked look.

 

[Jordacar]

I'm interested to see how the reboot could work the secret identity angle, although some of the heavies like Storm and Rogue aren't known for their masks, so
But I'd really like to see them use it, since A) the FoX films didn't bother with it all that much, and B) it sets them apart from the Avengers and FF, who get to operate in public.

As for Wolverine, the mask could be a holdover from his old black-ops days, and they could attach a lot of significance to it when this trained killer joins the team that's trying to set a positive example for mutants.

Heck, to have the mask in there, they'd have to make a bigger deal about the mask than the comics ever did, when the mask was actually on his %$*&ing head.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Wolverine? He shouldn't have a secret ID by my druthers, his mask serves no other practical purpose, and his masked look is no more iconic than his unmasked look.

Wait a minute are we staying with the eternal soldier fighting for a couple of centuries. Before it would be possible to get a new ID every few years. Now it is getting increasingly hard, with surveillance and facial recognition that the modern viewer is used to seeing the Las Vegas PD and all the other media security services use all the time. I think that is the reason all the special operations fighters wear beards even if they are the only men in the target society wearing beards.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I think if we get a comic accurate costume then he should have a mask. He may not need it all of time but it should be there. I mean even look at the Easter egg from wolverine 2, it gave us a brown and yellow costume and the mask. Every other appearance was either the drab singer suits or his day clothes (which could've used a little more variety)

 

[CaptainWagner]

About the mutant-history thing, here's a few points:

1) Unless you want to completely alter major points of the mythos, mutants have to have been around and studied in secret for quite some time before the events of this film.

2) If you think mutants operating in secret for years is going to make people more accepting of them, I don't know what world you're living in. Suddenly discovering that mutants have been around all this time and covering it up would most likely make the public even MORE afraid. It's like government survielence. It's not scary when you know ahead of time, but everyone freaks out when you know it happened and no one told anyone.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

About the mutant-history thing, here's a few points:

1) Unless you want to completely alter major points of the mythos, mutants have to have been around and studied in secret for quite some time before the events of this film.

2) If you think mutants operating in secret for years is going to make people more accepting of them, I don't know what world you're living in. Suddenly discovering that mutants have been around all this time and covering it up would most likely make the public even MORE afraid. It's like government survielence. It's not scary when you know ahead of time, but everyone freaks out when you know it happened and no one told anyone.

Perhaps not the Mutants, but the governments will inspire the fear among the people. However instead of asking why did the Avengers not get involved in the story you are asking why did the government which was able to control mutants not get involved. Blame on Hydra no doubt.