Marvel Films MCU X-Men - Part 4

[Darkprime]

The Phoenix Saga could be an interesting plot thread for a Civil War II down the line.

 

[Marvel united]

IW involves all the heroes because how big Thanos is or because in the comics it was a huge Marvel crossover as well? And also, why not having Apocalypse as an "end of the world threat" and having the X-Men and other mutants handling him? Why can't the X-Men be the heroes saving the world? They deserve that as well. Apocalypse is a X-Men villain and I feel it'd be super unfair to see the Avengers "stealing" Apocalypse from the X-Men and their roles as "saviors". I really dislike the idea of the X-Men having to share their big villains with the Avengers and the rest of the MCU.

Because it simply makes no sense. If Apocalypse sends a news broadcast to every superpower in the world that he is going to weed out the weak from the strong so that only the only superior beings may reign supreme, why would the Avengers not at least play small parts in the story? And Age of Apocalypse is something that could be an entire phase of the MCU in itself. I want Apocalypse to primarily be an X-Men villain and there many stories with him that are more self-contained. They can adapt those stories.

Civil War was a huge Marvel event in the comics. Like, really huge. The Phoenix Saga wasn't. The Phoenix/Dark Phoenix saga is an X-Men story only and, IMO, should be more intimate focusing on the team and Jean. The Avengers and the rest of the MCU would take a massive amount of screentime away from what it really matters. And like I said, CW was a big crossover events and had to deal with other stuff beyond the Cap/Bucky relationship, which is why the rest of the heroes were there as well.

If the future of the X-Men in the MCU is them not being worthy of having their own big stories, with big villains and big challenges (either emotionally like The Phoenix, or world-ending like Apocalypse), then I'd rather keep them at the FOX-verse in Kinberg's hand than handling them to Mr. Feige.

Uhhhh:



Probably one of the biggest Marvel comics crossover events in recent history was centered around the Phoenix. This entire story was basically the conclusion to the Messiah Complex trilogy and the buildup up from the M-Day event in House of M.

The fact of the matter is, Fox has adapted the Dark Phoenix story twice and hit many of the same beats that the comics did despite changing the context of the story beats. Marvel if they ever get around to doing the Dark Phoenix again will have to change things up and make some major changes to the structure of the story in order to make it fresh. There are more Phoenix stories than just the classic Dark Phoenix story that keeps being retold by Fox/Kinberg.

Besides that fact, the Phoenix is an even bigger threat than Apocalypse. So any argument somebody could plausibly make about non-mutants not getting involved in En Sabah Nur's endeavors will have to be completely reevaluated for the Phoenix. Because it's a threat so big that it catches the attention of alien civilizations and it destroys planets. If anything, the Avengers/Spider-Man/F4 getting involved would have made more sense than the excuse Claremont came up with to keep them out of it. Because even he realized that it was a stretch. They literally have camoes in the story to acknowledge how much attention the Phoenix has gotten.


It's not about the X-Men being unworthy. They will obviously have their own villains and stories. But they do no exist in a vacuum by themselves anymore. They will be integrated into the MCU and some of their villains are a big enough threat to bring everybody together. And I'm personally excited to see that. I would love a Civil War-esque movie with almost every Earth MCU coming together with the X-Men at the very center of the story.

Something like Inferno would serve a crossover event well. As the events of that story spilled into several solo comic series such as Spider-Man, F4, Damage Control and Cloak and Dagger.

 

[Lip]

If Apocalypse sends a news broadcast to every superpower in the world that he is going to weed out the weak from the strong so that only the only superior beings may reign supreme, why would the Avengers not at least play small parts in the story?

I understand your point about "it wouldn't be realistic". And I agree it wouldn't if you have a threat like that. But sometimes you take Dumbledore and Gandalf out of the picture to give the kids and the hobbits a chance to shine, be developed and grow. Wouldn't it be much easier and better if Dumbledore got involved in every adventure Harry had?

Apparently Marvel Studios and Sony are setting up Sinister Six in the Spider-Man franchise. They might not be a threat to the whole world, but it would be for NY. If you have a big threat like that in NY, wouldn't it be more realistic, easier and better to have FF and the Avengers getting involved and getting over with it in a few minutes? Do I want that? No way. I want Peter to deal with it.

I just want the mutants to have their own crossover events and get the spotlight for them only.

Probably one of the biggest Marvel comics crossover events in recent history was centered around the Phoenix.

Ok. So you're talking about using the Phoenix. I was talking about adapting that classic storyline. That one, IMO, should be more intimate and involving the X-Men only. Not even other mutant teams and heroes. Just the X-Men.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Pretty simple way to do it: start from the beginning. Xavier's first class of X-Men formed in real time. No Sentinels, no Morlocks, no Magneto, no secret Genosha paradise. None of that in the first movie. Mutants are basically a new phenomenon. That's the most simple, non-convoluted way to introduce these characters without retcons and plot holes that don't make sense. It doesn't have to be as complicated as many make it out to be.

There's no way. Marvel knows what the fans want from a franchise held back for decades by producers still stuck in the 90's. They aren't going to force us to sit around and wait another 6 years to build up from nothing. They'll find a good way to jump right into the X-Men's wild world. People are making it sound way more complicated than it needs to be.

 

[Abudefduf]

Oooh, do I sense another "the X-Men should/should not be young" argument coming on?

I'm team #YoungXMen btw. Maybe someone should make a poll about it.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Oooh, do I sense another "the X-Men should/should not be young" argument coming on?

I'm team #YoungXMen btw. Maybe someone should make a poll about it.

I think it makes the most sense for them to be young, considering we've seen/heard nothing about mutants in the MCU so far. If they were older, i think they would've been more likely to make their presence known already.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

The more I think about it, the more I’d think it’d be interesting for MCU X-Men to use the “getting the band back together” approach. The X-Men were a thing in the past, they all went their separate ways, the school closed, but something brings them back together. Maybe someone is hunting mutants.

Use the original 5 X-Men, then the sequel bring back more heavy hitters like Storm, Wolverine, Gambit, Rogue etc.

 

[Marvel united]

I understand your point about "it wouldn't be realistic". And I agree it wouldn't if you have a threat like that. But sometimes you take Dumbledore and Gandalf out of the picture to give the kids and the hobbits a chance to shine, be developed and grow. Wouldn't it be much easier and better if Dumbledore got involved in every adventure Harry had?

Apparently Marvel Studios and Sony are setting up Sinister Six in the Spider-Man franchise. They might not be a threat to the whole world, but it would be for NY. If you have a big threat like that in NY, wouldn't it be more realistic, easier and better to have FF and the Avengers getting involved and getting over with it in a few minutes? Do I want that? No way. I want Peter to deal with it.

I just want the mutants to have their own crossover events and get the spotlight for them only.



Ok. So you're talking about using the Phoenix. I was talking about adapting that classic storyline. That one, IMO, should be more intimate and involving the X-Men only. Not even other mutant teams and heroes. Just the X-Men.

This is a fair point. I don't think we entirely disagree if Marvel can find a way to do some of these big-events without including other heroes, that would be nice. I want the X-Men to have their own stories but I recognize that a couple of X-Men villains could potentially lend themselves well to an MCU crossover i.e Apocalypse, Vulcan (War of the Kings) etc.

There's no way. Marvel knows what the fans want from a franchise held back for decades by producers still stuck in the 90's. They aren't going to force us to sit around and wait another 6 years to build up from nothing. They'll find a good way to jump right into the X-Men's wild world. People are making it sound way more complicated than it needs to be.

That wild world and expansive mythos can't possibly exist yet in the MCU. We've seen and heard nothing of them since the MCU debuted their first movie with Iron Man? Having a "world of mutants" and a seasoned X-Men already existing in the MCU makes no sense and it's the very definition of needlessly complicating a situation that is already going to be very tricky. And even if they did make the X-Men much older, they still can't say "mutants have been around all along" without having a logical reason for mutants being suddenly a thing in the MCU. They aren't like Sorcerers or Wakanda.

Also, Marvel is not going to pander to the will of what fans want for the X-Men if it makes no sense for the MCU. That's not their main objective as we saw with Homecoming.

I think it makes the most sense for them to be young, considering we've seen/heard nothing about mutants in the MCU so far. If they were older, i think they would've been more likely to make their presence known already.

What sums up this argument the best is this picture
Look at all the various stages of development Jean has had through the decades. From a teenager to a young adult to a mature adult to a wife. Each costume represents a stage in her life. Now what logically makes sense is to start the character somewhere within one and 3 on the top row. Teen/young adult. Because when you're reintroducing a character that is going to be in the MCu for the next 10-13 years, it makes sense to her evolve through the 5-8 subsequent stages of development in the MCU.

Others want Marvel to skip alllll the preceding stages of development to the very bottom of this scale and start a franchise with a version of Jean Grey that had 28 years of character development in publication history and gone through most of the major events in her life that shaped her into becoming the woman she became in the 1991 relaunch.

With all that considered, which route makes the most sense here? It's pretty obvious. With the way Marvel develops their characters:

The X-Men won't be the exception.

 

[CaptainWagner]

That wild world and expansive mythos can't possibly exist yet in the MCU. We've seen and heard nothing of them since the MCU debuted their first movie with Iron Man? Having a "world of mutants" and a seasoned X-Men already existing in the MCU makes no sense and it's the very definition of needlessly complicating a situation that is already going to be very tricky. And even if they did make the X-Men much older, they still can't say "mutants have been around all along" without having a logical reason for mutants being suddenly a thing in the MCU. They aren't like Sorcerers or Wakanda.

I really don't get how this argument is still going on. Any approach to the mythos requires previous mutants to be present. Xavier, Magneto and Logan have clearly been around for a long time, you bring in Apocalypse and it goes even further back. There is absolutely nothing that makes revealing mutants existing in the shadows any different from revealing sorcerers or Wakanda. They intro'd Spider-man and Black Panther without an origin story. There are a million different ways to introduce them to the MCU as a whole without starting from ground zero. There's a reason the X-Men almost got canceled and had to be completely revitalized. The "First Class" era was never that great. Marvel isn't going to hold back the things everyone loves about the mutants because they have to put extra effort into introducing them, especially when those things contribute the most to the wider MCU.

 

[Boy Scout]

I think it’s unrealistic to expect the Avengers not to get involved in situations that threaten the planet’s existence unless they’re either handling ANOTHER threat at the exact same time or in another dimension/galaxy.

 

[Marvel united]

I really don't get how this argument is still going on. Any approach to the mythos requires previous mutants to be present. Xavier, Magneto and Logan have clearly been around for a long time, you bring in Apocalypse and it goes even further back. There is absolutely nothing that makes revealing mutants existing in the shadows any different from revealing sorcerers or Wakanda. They intro'd Spider-man and Black Panther without an origin story.

They aren't anything like Wakanda or the Sorcerers. One was hiding in an alternative dimension/ another plane of existence. And the other was a society of people with advanced cloaking device/technology that was hundreds of years more advanced than the outside world. They are scared kids who one day wake up with powers and spaz out. The idea of thousands of mutants hiding In the shadows runs contrary to the concept of what a "mutant" means. How are you going to hide thousands of kids randomly popping up with powers around the globe away from the rest of the MCU? Now, yes. Mutants have to have a pre-existance in MCU for characters like Charles, Erik and Wolverine. But the only way it will make sense is if there are only a few hundred around at this point thus, effectively -- the Mythos/world of the X-Men does not exist yet. Meaning that Sentinels do not exist yet, Muir island is still just a research facility for Moira, Genosha does not exist yet. The Brotherhood does not exist yet. Asteroid M does not exist yet and the X-Men do not exist yet.


T'Challa had a pseudo origin story in Civil War when T'Chaka died and then in BP when he became King of Wakanda. And Black Panther was introduced in the comics as a pre-estabilshed hero anyway. Peter Parker was introduced as a 15 year old HS student with only 6 months of experience. Not 16 years.

There are a million different ways to introduce them to the MCU as a whole without starting from ground zero. There's a reason the X-Men almost got canceled and had to be completely revitalized. The "First Class" era was never that great. Marvel isn't going to hold back the things everyone loves about the mutants because they have to put extra effort into introducing them, especially when those things contribute the most to the wider MCU.

They can be Introduced without starting from ground zero. But they need to be fresh and relatively new. Spider-Man did not start from ground zero but he had only been around for a few months when we met him.

Define what people love about the mutants or the X-Men, for that matter? People love the mutants/franchise because of the variety powers, the characters and the timeless themes about discrimination and persecution. The core of the X-Men franchise is a group of heroes fighting for the same people who hate and fear for them. That's it. If Marvel can capture the spirit of that message in the first movie, they will be done justice. They don't have to be seasoned or have a 14-member roster for the movie to work. They aren't "holding back" they are taking the proper sets to build a universe and mythology within the MCU that makes sense and doesn't break the continuity of the franchise.... Which Is exactly what the comics did.

And P.S Ultimate X-Men, X-Men: First Class and X-Men: Evolution were all successful. Just because the O5 didn't strike gold when they debuted doesn't mean the concept of First Class of young heroes does not work. X-Men: Blue is some of the best material I've read in a long time and it focuses on the time-displaced O5 with Jean as the leader instead of Scott.

 

[CaptainWagner]

They aren't anything like Wakanda or the Sorcerers. One was hiding in an alternative dimension/ another plane of existence. And the other was a society of people with advanced cloaking device/technology that was hundreds of years more advanced than the outside world. They are scared kids who one day wake up with powers and spaz out. The idea of thousands of mutants hiding In the shadows runs contrary to the concept of what a "mutant" means. How are you going to hide thousands of kids randomly popping up with powers around the globe away from the rest of the MCU? Now, yes. Mutants have to have a pre-existance in MCU for characters like Charles, Erik and Wolverine. But the only way it will make sense is if there are only a few hundred around at this point thus, effectively -- the Mythos/world of the X-Men does not exist yet. Meaning that Sentinels do not exist yet, Muir island is still just a research facility for Moira, Genosha does not exist yet. The Brotherhood does not exist yet. Asteroid M does not exist yet and the X-Men do not exist yet.

Well, I never said that there would be thousands of them already popping up every year, did I? The number of mutants has repeatedly fluctuated up and down, but one thing remains the same, it increases exponentially over time. A historically low, manageable level of mutants doesn't mean that you can't have X-Men or the Brotherhood already operating for years. They worked in secret for years in the comics. No reason to say they can't have done the same in the MCU. And a sudden spike in mutations makes it impossible for them to hide anymore.

Define what people love about the mutants or the X-Men, for that matter? People love the mutants/franchise because of the variety powers, the characters and the timeless themes about discrimination and persecution. The core of the X-Men franchise is a group of heroes fighting for the same people who hate and fear for them. That's it. If Marvel can capture the spirit of that message in the first movie, they will be done justice. They don't have to be seasoned or have a 14-member roster for the movie to work. They aren't "holding back" they are taking the proper sets to build a universe and mythology within the MCU that makes sense and doesn't break the continuity of the franchise.... Which Is exactly what the comics did.

And P.S Ultimate X-Men, X-Men: First Class and X-Men: Evolution were all successful. Just because the O5 didn't strike gold when they debuted doesn't mean the concept of First Class of young heroes does not work. X-Men: Blue is some of the best material I've read in a long time and it focuses on the time-displaced O5 with Jean as the leader instead of Scott.

My point is that people aren't going to want to sit around for movie after movie laying groundwork and only tapping into the underutilized mutant world years later. Avoiding the wider mutant world is one of the biggest flaws of the Fox-Men. There's no way Marvel will repeat that.

 

[EnDz0n3]

What sums up this argument the best is this pictureView attachment 18763
Look at all the various stages of development Jean has had through the decades. From a teenager to a young adult to a mature adult to a wife. Each costume represents a stage in her life. Now what logically makes sense is to start the character somewhere within one and 3 on the top row. Teen/young adult. Because when you're reintroducing a character that is going to be in the MCu for the next 10-13 years, it makes sense to her evolve through the 5-8 subsequent stages of development in the MCU.

Others want Marvel to skip alllll the preceding stages of development to the very bottom of this scale and start a franchise with a version of Jean Grey that had 28 years of character development in publication history and gone through most of the major events in her life that shaped her into becoming the woman she became in the 1991 relaunch.

With all that considered, which route makes the most sense here? It's pretty obvious. With the way Marvel develops their characters:

I have to confess something, I didn't read any of that. This has been a discussion that's been going on for pages upon pages, month upon months.

The X-Men won't be the exception.

But you agree there are exceptions? That Feige doesn't and has never had any hard and fast rules when it comes to how he's done any of the MCU movies. You repeating ad nauseam that he does (and that you know exactly how he's going to do it) is not going to change any of that.
That's all that needs to be said.

 

[Frankeh]

It is VERY convenient that Xavier, Magneto and Logan amongst others (Selene, Apocalypse), happened to be a few of the evolved until suddenly there's a spike in the mutant population that leads to MCU X-Men.

Either way you slice it you have to pretend the mutants were unnoticed until now. I mean, even if SHIELD was aware of them, Fury never went to Xavier to ask for help? Come on.

Not to mention we live in a social media age. Mutant powers aren't going unnoticed. Introducing Spider-Man and saying he already had Youtube videos of him even though he was unheard of previously was already pushing it.

 

[Marvel united]

Well, I never said that there would be thousands of them already popping up every year, did I? The number of mutants has repeatedly fluctuated up and down, but one thing remains the same, it increases exponentially over time. A historically low, manageable level of mutants doesn't mean that you can't have X-Men or the Brotherhood already operating for years. They worked in secret for years in the comics. No reason to say they can't have done the same in the MCU. And a sudden spike in mutations makes it impossible for them to hide anymore.

Well, then we don't entirely disagree then. We both agree that the only way the "coming out of the shadows" thing works is if there is a trigger of the X-gene. In the comics, specifically by the 90s, there were millions of mutants living in the MU. In New X-Men (2001. 10 years after the 1991 revamp), the news reports specifically say Genosha was home to 16 million mutants before they were slaughtered by Cassandra's Sentinels:


Which he says was "more than half" which means that the total population of mutants in the MU would have been around 27 million. 10-11 million not living in Genosha.

Right now, regardless of whether the X-Men/Brotherhood are operating in secret, mutants are not yet a classified species because they are so few. There has to be reason for why mutants suddenly start emerging.

My favorite theory:

Accelerated evolution that is a result of the Earth adapting humanity to the world of the MCU. Because of the constant world ending threats and the massive influx of superpowered people, mutants are the Earth's defense mechanism. Mutants are mother nature's "answer to the Avengers' if you will. The snap accelerated the process to an insane speed. So what should be happening over the course of hundreds of years is now happening in the span of 5. This takes the idea of mutants being the next step in human evolution literally and this is my favorite idea. It will be like the Ultimate universe, because normal people, in the midst of living in world with gods, monsters, guys that can stick to walls and people who can control the weather -- they feel left behind. Like they don't belong. The world isn't humanity's anymore and the mutants are the literal epitome of the "change" that is sweeping the world.


Now you can say the X-Men were PART of the first generation of mutants that were far and few but that is a different discussion and it goes back to the character development argument. Why the X-Men shouldn't have more than 3 years of experience.

My point is that people aren't going to want to sit around for movie after movie laying groundwork and only tapping into the underutilized mutant world years later. Avoiding the wider mutant world is one of the biggest flaws of the Fox-Men. There's no way Marvel will repeat that.

They don't have to wait years later. One of the benefits of the MCU is that the mythos of the X-Men is not confined to just X-Men films. Mostly everything could come together in as little as 3 years after their debut because the world-building would be happening in multiple MCU films. Trask for instance could be introduced in a Dark Avengers film, Rogue and Mystique in Captain Marvel, Storm in Black Panther. Alpha Flight in a Wolverine/Hulk team up etc.

One my ideas was to introduce the X-Men as the O5 in somebody else's movie and then do something more along the lines of Giant-Sized X-Men in their solo. That takes care of Scott, Jean, Hank etc. Meanwhile, Storm and Rogue are being developed in Black Panther and Captain Marvel. The timeline of events could look something like this:


- Mutant boom happens (Mid-2019)

- Storm introduced in Black Panther 2 as as a young woman being worshipped as "the wind rider Goddess" by the Serengeti tribe in Kenya (2020)

- School for the Gifted is founded (2020)

- Rogue introduced in Captain Marvel 2 under the manipation of Mystique. She parts ways with Raven after realizing the error of her ways (2021)

- The O5 introduced In Spider-Man 3 in a small role. They help Spidey stop Goom and the other monsters from Planex from rampaging through Manhattan. Picture this but with the O5 instead of Johnny Storm







Now we get to what everybody is waiting for Uncanny X-Men in 2022.

- Cyclops
- Marvel Girl
- Storm
- Rogue
- Iceman
- Rictor
- Jubilee

Warren has left the team due to personal issues. Hank Is a College junior now and has joined the Avengers (he's blue now) and the School for the Gifted has gained more publicity in the 2 years it's been active. Although many parents are still apprehensive of sending their children to the school. This would be the first time the X-Men go public, when the Sentinels are introduced and when the groundwork they played in the previous 4 movies starts to bear it's fruits.


Simple, streamlined. That's how I would approach the property in the MCU.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

It all takes suspension of disbelief. Theres no other way around it. I still like the xmen evolution route of doing things.

 

[Lip]

The introduction of mutants in the MCU will raise a bunch of questions, and I do hope Marvel does a huge creative effort to answer all of them in a way that makes the most sense. But at the end of the day, if it doesn't make sense I'll make peace with that. Because I know they had to build this entire universe without even being allowed to use the word "mutant" without legal repercussions.

I just hope the effort is there. But I'll be ok if it doesn't make sense.

 

[Iceman]

It's going to be so exciting when mutants are firmly entrenched in the MCU.

 

[Iceman]

The introduction of mutants in the MCU will raise a bunch of questions, and I do hope Marvel does a huge creative effort to answer all of them in a way that makes the most sense. But at the end of the day, if it doesn't make sense I'll make peace with that. Because I know they had to build this entire universe without even being allowed to use the word "mutant" without legal repercussions.

I just hope the effort is there. But I'll be ok if it doesn't make sense.

Yeah, same here. They should try and have it make sense but that isn't the main priority for me, and it definitely isn't for the GA.

 

[Lip]

Yeah, same here. They should try and have it make sense but that isn't the main priority for me, and it definitely isn't for the GA.

Yeah, I mean if Marvel won't be able to answer some questions like why mutants haven't been mentioned before, or why they weren't a thing before, or why Fury never called Xavier... I'd be ok with it. Mutants are only being introduced now because of legal and rights issues.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Yeah I feel like they're not going to make a big point of HOW they got there, the big point is that they ARE there. Same way they treated spiderman.

 

[Marvel united]

I'm confident that they're going to at least try to have it make some logical sense. The way Wakanda and Sorcerers were introduced fit the established continuity. When the X-Men were initially introduced in the 60s, mutants were a relatively new phenomenon. The influx of atomic weapon radiation during the Cold War causes the X-gene to activate at an accelerated rate and mutant births to spike. Hence why the X-Men are sometimes referred to as "Childreh of the Atom"

In the Ultimate Marvel universe, Weapon X created the X-Gene trigger in an attempt to replicate the super Soldier program. The chemical was later released into the atmosphere worldwide.

So the comics explain where mutants come from and why they are suddenly a thing in the MU

 

[Herofan]

It is VERY convenient that Xavier, Magneto and Logan amongst others (Selene, Apocalypse), happened to be a few of the evolved until suddenly there's a spike in the mutant population that leads to MCU X-Men.

Either way you slice it you have to pretend the mutants were unnoticed until now. I mean, even if SHIELD was aware of them, Fury never went to Xavier to ask for help? Come on.

It's plausible he could view Xavier as a threat or at least too unreliable (he initially considered Stark too unreliable) and also think the existence of mutants shouldn't be revealed to the public (and maybe some or most governments).

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

So I was thinking instead of the writers and Kevin coming up with this long drawn out theory about mutants appearing how about they start the MCU X-men back in 08. Basically as a nod that they've always been there watching I'd like to see a scene of Xavier or Hank reading the newspaper about the attack on New York or on the news or any something about Iron Man, etc. Another way is that during the gaps between movies they could fill those years with X movies. For example maybe the team took down Magneto during the events of Winter Solider, Civil War, etc to have a cohesive time line.

I'd like to see a scene where Scott thinks the team could be big as the Avengers using there powers to help mankind.

Far as Storm maybe they could show how her and Tchalla met as teens. She showed him her powers and he promised to never tell anyone about her gifts. Th ey had a teenage love affair but couldn't be together because of the commitment to their land. Now in a sequel to Black Panther they can introduce Storm as an ally to Wakanda and maybe cause a bit of a love triangle between him and Nakia.

One thing I like about comics is that all these heroes exist in the same real and city but they hardly crossover but acknowledged the other teams and the film's can do this

 

[CaptainWagner]

I think that Xavier going to great lengths to hide the mutant presence is consistent with the character. SHIELD and other governments have surely encountered mutants over the years but never known where their powers came from. We know that Fury had at least one huge metahuman experience before the Avengers era (Carol and the Skrulls) that the Avengers never knew about. No reason there can't be more. Fury never tells anyone more than they need to know.