Marvel Films MCU X-Men - Part 4

[Shuri]

Yeah, @Shinobi Shaw I respectfully disagree. Deadpool 2 Juggernaut looked like a Playstation 2 character. It will age badly in short time. Marvel just has Fox beat on the CGI character department.

I always liked Colin Salmon who played Ronson in the Brosnan Bond Movies for Xavier, but he might be too low-profile for Marvel now. He has the look, the presence and the voice for the part.

I like him. He's very good as Zod on Krypton. Definitely the best thing about that show.

 

[Shuri]

With rumours floating around that Aja Naomi King and Nicole Beharie are in the running to be cast as Storm, here's more potential candidates including the aforementioned:

Nafessa Williams

Chinyere Yvonne Okoro

Jessica Williams

Nicole Beharie

Aja Naomi King

Teyonah Parris

Brittany S. Hall

Nomzamo Mbatha

Meagan goode

Yaya dacosta

Bonang Matheba

Damilola Adegbite

Nafessa Williams? Love her but she is a terrible actress. I don't know some of these actresses. But the only one I'll be down for on this list is Aja and possibly Yaya. That being said, Kiki is still my first choice.

 

[Marvel united]

The actress they cast for Storm will be age appropriate to be a love interest/Wife for Boseman's T'Challa. Storm will not be a teenager in the MCU and will be akin to her men evolution counterpart.

But that changes her dynamic with the X-Men. In Evolution, Storm was basically the X-Men's babysitters. Instead of Jean being like a younger sister to Storm, now she's her daughter.

Basically, it comes down to what is more important-- Storm's dynamic with the X-Men or her dynamic with T'Challa/Wakanda. Storm has a great relationship to explore in the X-Men franchise with Forge. I'd rather see that personally

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Teyonnah Parris and her recent choice of roles left a bad taste in my mouth. She doesn’t deserve to be Storm.

 

[Lip]

I have no idea who are several of those actors/actresses mentioned here. But here's something Feige said in an interview after Endgame:

Lessons learned from creating the MCU:
“Respect the source material.
Hire passionate filmmakers regardless of how much money their last movie made.
Hire the best cast regardless of their current marquee value.”

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

The actress they cast for Storm will be age appropriate to be a love interest/Wife for Boseman's T'Challa.

Doubtful

 

[WeaponXCII]

Getting back to Xavier, we all know that Marvel Studios has been very... socially conscious- even to the point of some taking issue with it.

And so, as a member of the disability community (not to get all "As an Apache attack helicopter...."), and a paraplegic myself, though born with my disability as opposed to an SCI like Xavier, I think that Marvel is going to want to get away from outdated mindsets (and I would even say they should) like the "frail old dude holed up in a wheelchair", and that being "in a wheelchair for years" leads you to be "unable to work out"- especially since they try for realism as much as they can; speaking from experience, ignoring the fact that at least some weight machines are wheelchair-accessible, even things like transferring in and out of a wheelchair (something that might be done many times a day), and just pushing around (has Xavier ever been shown actually pushing his chair?) leads to some serious upper body strength.

Hoping this doesn't come across as an identity politics rant- just wanted to offer my two cents on how the MCU might going about portraying Xavier.

 

[Chesterfield]

But that changes her dynamic with the X-Men. In Evolution, Storm was basically the X-Men's babysitters. Instead of Jean being like a younger sister to Storm, now she's her daughter.

Basically, it comes down to what is more important-- Storm's dynamic with the X-Men or her dynamic with T'Challa/Wakanda. Storm has a great relationship to explore in the X-Men franchise with Forge. I'd rather see that personally

Not sure what you're talking about. An older Storm worked well in the 90s TAS as did the majority of the cast of characters. Who's to say Marvel Studios wont take that approach when casting gets underway.

 

[Chesterfield]

Doubtful

We'll see.

 

[Chesterfield]

Can any of those act or are you posting them because they are beautiful women? Acting ability comes first, not comic resemblance. That means jack if they can't deliver lines.

Also, was it really necessary to post Goode with the bikini? Was that the only pic of hers out there?

Yes they can act and how is Meagan Good wearing a bikini? She's wearing a dress. Nothing wrong with what she's wearing.

 

[Abudefduf]

Yes they can act and how is Meagan Good wearing a bikini? She's wearing a dress. Nothing wrong with what she's wearing.

I think he's talking about Nomzamo Mbatha and unlike him, I appreciate the pictures.

 

[metaphysician]

They haven't been in a wheelchair for years unable to work out.

That actually depends. Obviously if your paralyzed from the waist down, your legs will atrophy. . . but its not uncommon for the wheelchair bound to get *very* well built upper bodies, from all the effort of rolling a wheelchair and lifting their body with just their arms.

 

[metaphysician]

But that changes her dynamic with the X-Men. In Evolution, Storm was basically the X-Men's babysitters. Instead of Jean being like a younger sister to Storm, now she's her daughter.

Basically, it comes down to what is more important-- Storm's dynamic with the X-Men or her dynamic with T'Challa/Wakanda. Storm has a great relationship to explore in the X-Men franchise with Forge. I'd rather see that personally

That's an easy one: her dynamic with the X-Men. After all, the entire BP/Wakanda plotline was a dumpster fire motivated by little more than Hudlin being a hack.

 

[Abudefduf]

The words "diversity" and "representation" come up a lot in this thread so I have a question: wouldn't it be nice if Marvel cast an actually disabled actor as Professor X? I mean, he is one of the few disabled superheroes in existence, after all. I think it would be cool

And yes I know what acting means.

 

[Marvel united]

Not sure what you're talking about. An older Storm worked well in the 90s TAS as did the majority of the cast of characters. Who's to say Marvel Studios wont take that approach when casting gets underway.

You said that they will go the XM:E with Storm. Well, that would entail her being a teacher at the Mansion & being dramatically older than characters like Scott, Jean and Bobby who were still teenagers. In 90s TAS, everybody was an older adult, not just Ororo.

That's certainly possible, nobody knows how Feige will approach the X-Men. All we can do is go back to how he's approached other franchises in the past to try and construct an educated guess, as blurry as that may still be.

Getting back to Xavier, we all know that Marvel Studios has been very... socially conscious- even to the point of some taking issue with it.

And so, as a member of the disability community (not to get all "As an Apache attack helicopter...."), and a paraplegic myself, though born with my disability as opposed to an SCI like Xavier, I think that Marvel is going to want to get away from outdated mindsets (and I would even say they should) like the "frail old dude holed up in a wheelchair", and that being "in a wheelchair for years" leads you to be "unable to work out"- especially since they try for realism as much as they can; speaking from experience, ignoring the fact that at least some weight machines are wheelchair-accessible, even things like transferring in and out of a wheelchair (something that might be done many times a day), and just pushing around (has Xavier ever been shown actually pushing his chair?) leads to some serious upper body strength.

Hoping this doesn't come across as an identity politics rant- just wanted to offer my two cents on how the MCU might going about portraying Xavier.

Precisely Especially someone who was as active as Charles back in the day, he would still have built up muscle in his frame. He would by no means be as frail and out of shape as some people assume he would be. It makes sense that Charles would build up his upper body strength

 

[Frankeh]

Hehehe, Millie Bobby Brown denies the Eternals rumor!

"Everybody thinks I’m going to be in a Marvel movie," she said. "Not that I know of. My family and I have no idea. So I just want to let everyone know…that I’m not as of right now."

It could be misdirection but I take this as a possibility she can still be Kitty Pryde.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I think he's talking about Nomzamo Mbatha and unlike him, I appreciate the pictures.

Xarus probably thinks they all look the same and so he called Nomzamo, Meagan Goode.

 

[Lip]

The words "diversity" and "representation" come up a lot in this thread so I have a question: wouldn't it be nice if Marvel cast an actually disabled actor as Professor X? I mean, he is one of the few disabled superheroes in existence, after all. I think it would be cool

It sounds fair to say the least. I remember thinking about that for Daredevil.

And we talk a lot about race-changing here, but I'd also love to see a plus sized hero. Kitty Pryde, maybe? There's a Marvel animation where they portray Squirrel Girl as plus size. The X-Men could have some plus size superhero as well. Mutantion affects anybody anyway...

 

[Mad Ones]

Body diversity would be nice. The X-men don't have a great history with this. While the comics love their blue and/or furry characters, the X-men and women all have very similar body types, made worse and immortalized by Jim Lee's art which took the beefcake and pinups to a new level.

I want the movies to portray Cyclops on the leaner end of the spectrum, given his nickname was Slim. But I feel like portraying him any skinnier than Captain America will open the floodgates for outrage. The standards of beauty for women are impossible to achieve (a problem across all superhero movies and hollywood generally).

And Blob exists. His mutation is being fat. And he's a villain because he's fat. Another example where the movies need to be better than the comics historically have been. At least this year Blob has been in a story where he's not vilified for his body type and even rendered desirable by the artist.

 

[MilkmanDan]

Getting back to Xavier, we all know that Marvel Studios has been very... socially conscious- even to the point of some taking issue with it.

And so, as a member of the disability community (not to get all "As an Apache attack helicopter...."), and a paraplegic myself, though born with my disability as opposed to an SCI like Xavier, I think that Marvel is going to want to get away from outdated mindsets (and I would even say they should) like the "frail old dude holed up in a wheelchair", and that being "in a wheelchair for years" leads you to be "unable to work out"- especially since they try for realism as much as they can; speaking from experience, ignoring the fact that at least some weight machines are wheelchair-accessible, even things like transferring in and out of a wheelchair (something that might be done many times a day), and just pushing around (has Xavier ever been shown actually pushing his chair?) leads to some serious upper body strength.

Hoping this doesn't come across as an identity politics rant- just wanted to offer my two cents on how the MCU might going about portraying Xavier.

I'm glad someone mentioned this. I have a job where I meet a lot of people with disabilities and I have met some seriously buff guys in wheelchairs. So, I think they can definitely cast a fit guy for Xavier but I do think that they need to pick someone who also has gravitas and feels believable as an intellectual.

 

[Lip]

And Blob exists. His mutation is being fat. And he's a villain because he's fat.

It's not just Blob.

Blob, Kingpin, Toad, Mojo, Mole Man, Doctor Oct, Shadow King... all villains.

And it's not just in Marvel either. Little Mermaid, Pocahontas, Pinnochio, Alice in Wonderland, Dumbo, Hercules... all have fat villains. And there are others outside Disney like Penguin or Majin Buu, for instance.

They can be villains but somehow can't be heroes?

 

[Xeno]

It's not just Blob.

Blob, Kingpin, Toad, Mojo, Mole Man, Doctor Oct, Shadow King... all villains.

And it's not just in Marvel either. Little Mermaid, Pocahontas, Pinnochio, Alice in Wonderland, Dumbo, Hercules... all have fat villains. And there are others outside Disney like Penguin or Majin Buu, for instance.

They can be villains but somehow can't be heroes?

Well, the MCU has Thicc Thor now. Chris Hemsworth rightly fought to keep Thor's larger physique rather than have him magically slim down at the end of Endgame. Kevin Feige also said that he planned to include more diverse body types going forward. Hopefully he means to follow through with this pledge.

 

[Marvel united]

I'm not sure Marvel going out of their way to promote unhealthy lifestyles in the X-Men franchise is a good idea. Being obese is dangerous and it's not something that should be celebrated

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm not sure Marvel going out of their way to promote unhealthy lifestyles in the X-Men franchise is a good idea. Being obese is dangerous and it's not something that should be celebrated

Yeah Thor's obesity wasn't some strategy to showcase more diverse body types. It was done as a part of Thor's character arc. Thor felt like a failure so he spent the last five years in a depression eating away his sadness.

Granted, I don't know how you can explain an Asgardian who has supernatural powers is able to become overweight, but whatever.

 

[Mad Ones]

It's not just Blob.

Blob, Kingpin, Toad, Mojo, Mole Man, Doctor Oct, Shadow King... all villains.

And it's not just in Marvel either. Little Mermaid, Pocahontas, Pinnochio, Alice in Wonderland, Dumbo, Hercules... all have fat villains. And there are others outside Disney like Penguin or Majin Buu, for instance.

They can be villains but somehow can't be heroes?

Definitely a contextual and cultural problem, but it feels so egregious when its an X-character vilified for their body type given all the ways mutations and differences are allegedly celebrated by the X-men.

I'm not sure Marvel going out of their way to promote unhealthy lifestyles in the X-Men franchise is a good idea. Being obese is dangerous and it's not something that should be celebrated

This kind of body shaming is not in line with the ethos of the X-men (however uneven and inconsistent it is). Don't act like the standard steroided comic book body has any kind of authority over "healthiness"