Mission: Impossible - Fallout - Part 1

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That train scene is amazing. But it’s pretty much the only amazing action sequence in the first one.

That "ride the explosion" scene was worthy of a Fast & Furious movie in it's over the topness. :hehe:
 
I cannot say anything good about MI:2. That film is truly dreadful. Only one in the series I felt was outright bad. Ghost Protocol was my favorite.

That's hilarious, we have almost completely opposite tastes when it comes to this franchise. :oldrazz:
 
The man's level of dedication and ability to learn like a sponge (absorbing everything) is mighty impressive. I wish I'd have that kind of focus and ability to learn complex things the way he does. :eek:
He's one of the last true movie stars. He's an amazing actor and I like most of the movies he does.
 
...or how to pander to an actor with an almighty self circulating ego.



*Laughs* You say that like it's a bad thing. You don't get to Cruise's position in life without an ego the size of Xenu's wangus, it generally comes with the territory. Exceptions exist, but the rule is generally there.

Actors, athletes, entrepreneurs, politicians, whatever, it doesn't matter. Michael Jordan was an arrogant d*ckbag. Tiger Woods is a total me-me-me scumbag. Steve Jobs, self-centred jackass. Couple examples.

At least outside of the Scientology stuff (which I can't wrap my head around, but whatever), Cruise seems like a basically pleasant enough dude. Doesn't seem like co-star actors ever have a problem with the guy. Let him have his ego, if he didn't we wouldn't likely be getting half of the ultra-cool stuff he's achieved on film.
 
You don't get to become the greatest without knowing you are. Humility is all an act.
 
Tom Cruise is easily one of my favorite people in Hollywood. His acting might not be Oscar-levels worthy but he clearly puts everything into every film he does. Not only that, he is always in a good mood, answering every kind of question, always interested in other people and what they have to say (just watch any Graham Norton Show when he is in). I have no idea what the Scientology stuff is. But he really is a star.
 
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...or how to pander to an actor with an almighty self circulating ego.



Exactly. They always release clips like this praising him

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"Tom had to do this and he performed it like a pro. I've never seen someone learn it that quick"



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"Tom's driving was brilliant. He's a good driver"
 
You'll find praise like that in most BTS featurettes for action movies. Always praising the actors for how well they did with stunt work/choreography. Keanu in John Wick, Daisy Ridley in Star Wars, Chris Evans in Captain America...all the same type of stuff. It's just PR speak. But it's fun to watch. :D
 
I cannot say anything good about MI:2. That film is truly dreadful. Only one in the series I felt was outright bad. Ghost Protocol was my favorite.

I agree, M:I2 is painful to watch. It starts out okay enough with the rock climbing sequence, but once the Limp Bizkit kicks in, I check out. It’s all scenery chewing, slow motion, dove flying nonsense. It just seems to get dumber and dumber as it goes along. Thandie Newton is fine, but it’s just so melodramatic it’s hard to take any of it seriously because it’s taking itself so seriously.

M:I3 brought things back on track and they just keep getting better. Ghost Protocol was great, but I liked Rogue Nation quite a bit more. I didn’t care much for the final showdown in GP.
 
You'll find praise like that in most BTS featurettes for action movies. Always praising the actors for how well they did with stunt work/choreography. Keanu in John Wick, Daisy Ridley in Star Wars, Chris Evans in Captain America...all the same type of stuff. It's just PR speak. But it's fun to watch. :D

Yep, I love seeing those videos. Especially if they make it pay off in the films and Cruise always does.
 
I love the comment from Cavill's August Walker.

"How many times has Hunt's government betrayed him, disavowed him, cast him aside? How long before a man like that has had enough?" - Walker

Well, for a little over two years we have been spotting serious blowback in IMF operations, we have a penetration. The other day, we decoded a message on the Internet from a Czech we know as Max. - Kitteridge

Its like ever since Phelps went rogue in the first movie the series has been explaining that maybe he was doing what he thought was right just as Ethan and Soloman were doing. Walker is dressed similar to how Kitteridge was with the iconic CIA agent duster. I don't know if that is intentional. However throughout the last few films every character has spent time as a disavowed or rogue agent.

The secretary even orders Ethan to act against the governments orders in Ghost Protocol.

Now, I've been ordered to take you back to Washington, where the DOD will label you as a rogue extremist and hang the Kremlin bombing on you and your team. Unless, you were to escape somewhere between here and the airport, having assaulted Mr. Brandt and me. - Secretary

Rogue Nation is really a story about the how wars take place in the opaque, the shadows. They need a lack of over sight to exist for the impossible mission to be accomplished, however if it isn't the agents are thrown under the bus by their government.

They don't care if you live or die. Lane, Atlee, Your Government, my Government, we only thing we are doing the right thing because that's what we choose to believe. - Faust

That's something of a reality I've seen through my own personal work. There are times in Rogue nation when it is hard to differentiate between the Rogue IMF Ethan controls and the Rogue Nation that Lane controls. Who would have made a better world? Obviously we as the audience root for Ethan, but is he always right, do is actions still have dangerous consequences?

I helped my government kill many innocent people and more. So much more. Killing to keep things as they were. And now I'm killing to bring about change. - Lane

I wonder if at the end of the film Walker will not be able to pinned down to a single Hero or villian, protagonist or antagonist role, he might be a much more complicated character, as Hunt, Faust and Phelps all were.

Hunt is uniquely trained and highly motivated - a specialist without equal - immune to any countermeasures. There is no secret he cannot extract, no security he cannot breach, no person he cannot become. He has most likely anticipated this very conversation and is waiting to strike in whatever direction we move. Sir, Hunt is the living manifestation of destiny - and he has made you his mission.
 
You'll find praise like that in most BTS featurettes for action movies. Always praising the actors for how well they did with stunt work/choreography. Keanu in John Wick, Daisy Ridley in Star Wars, Chris Evans in Captain America...all the same type of stuff. It's just PR speak. But it's fun to watch. :D

I like them, too.
 
Hunt is uniquely trained and highly motivated - a specialist without equal - immune to any countermeasures. There is no secret he cannot extract, no security he cannot breach, no person he cannot become. He has most likely anticipated this very conversation and is waiting to strike in whatever direction we move. Sir, Hunt is the living manifestation of destiny - and he has made you his mission.

I ****ing love that moment in Rogue Nation. Its 5 films' worth of awesomeness distilled into 4 sentences.
 
"Tom had to do this and he performed it like a pro. I've never seen someone learn it that quick"


Are comments like these from the production people really an issue, if they're true? *Shrugs* Cruise goes up-and-above for these movies in a way not many (if any?) actors do. Might as well draw attention to it if it's happening.

And Visceral, whoa, hadn't really thought about it like that in correlation to the first movie. That's a pretty cool take! :yay:
 
"Tom had to do this and he performed it like a pro. I've never seen someone learn it that quick"


Are comments like these from the production people really an issue, if they're true? *Shrugs* Cruise goes up-and-above for these movies in a way not many (if any?) actors do. Might as well draw attention to it if it's happening.

And Visceral, whoa, hadn't really thought about it like that in correlation to the first movie. That's a pretty cool take! :yay:
It's production hype, what are you going to do? They're trying to hype the movie and the production and Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise is one of the biggest movie stars on the planet but they want to make him look like a serious stunt man who is doing all his own stunts and is more than just a pampered, fluffed movie star.
 
I mean, but he does do a lot more of his own stunts than your average action-star type of guy.

So what's the problem here?
 
Yeah, you can't really ***** about Cruise if you're just doing pseudo Ironman courses every couple years, lol.
 
I don't think they're trying to say Cruise is a full on stuntman, but let's be honest, it's hardly a secret that he does a lot of the big stunts himself. As an actor, he's very committed.

Fair play to him. At 55, many established actors are phoning in performances and letting stuntmen do the more tricky stuff but Cruise is still hanging on to the side of a plane, learning to fly a helicopter for a live action scene, and so on. He doesn't have to - many movies simply put stuntmen in these situations or use CGi - but he chooses to, because he appreciates the realism it brings, and I think that should be respected. Watch a CGi helicopter scene (something like Terminator Genisys is the most recent which springs to my mind) and it lacks any sense of drama or tension compared to seeing Cruise in a real helicopter being shot at by Cavill in another real helicopter behind.

My only curiosity is how they still manage to insure him for stuff like this given his A-list status and the large budgets of many projects he's in.
 
I think he produces these (or did, not sure if that deal's still in place), has some big deal with Paramount. Maybe he just has some special contract, or even fronts up the insane (you'd assume) insurance costs himself out-of-pocket?

'Cause yeah, you'd figure most people that famous wouln't be allowed to do half of this **** even if they were capable of it and wanted to.
 
I agree, M:I2 is painful to watch. It starts out okay enough with the rock climbing sequence, but once the Limp Bizkit kicks in, I check out. It’s all scenery chewing, slow motion, dove flying nonsense. It just seems to get dumber and dumber as it goes along. Thandie Newton is fine, but it’s just so melodramatic it’s hard to take any of it seriously because it’s taking itself so seriously.

M:I3 brought things back on track and they just keep getting better. Ghost Protocol was great, but I liked Rogue Nation quite a bit more. I didn’t care much for the final showdown in GP.

I liked Rogue Nation as well. But, Ghost Protocol I just thought was awesome. But yeah, MI:2 is painful. The writing is soap operish at times, uses slow motion in an annoying way, and is at the end of the day just dumb. I skipped MI:3 in the theaters because I hated 2 so much. I only caught it on blu ray years later when Ghost Protocol was coming out and I wanted to see that because I loved the trailers, then I watched 3. Kind of sorry I skipped it, LOL! But that just shows how much I hated 2.
 
Its about time Cruise got a Best Actor award. His dedication to his craft and his hard work is insane at times.

He should have got an award for Magnolia, he showed in that film, he is an actor as apposed to just a 'movie star'.
 
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