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The Dark Knight More on the return of Rachel Dawes

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In other Bat-Sequel news, I'm starting to hear a few rumblings that Katie Holmes may not return to reprise her role as Rachel Dawes and there could be a new female lead -- more on this in a second (All you Katie fans don't need to send me hate email as I'm on the record saying that she should return)...
BOF has also been told by a couple of insiders that the new film will include a few "classic Bat-Rouges," which would seem to give the rumor of The Penguin's appearance some substance. Now back to the Katie Holmes scuttlebutt... With rumors of her not returning making the rounds and talk that a few Bat-baddies may be included (in cameos for the most part I presume), I wonder if one Ms. Kyle could possibly in the mix? Perhaps THE LONG HALLOWEEN-style (That's just my suggestion dear readers). We shall see...

http://batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html


Also, there's a new enlarged picture of Hulme which was posted in the other thread. I'm sure some of you saw it, here it is but slightly bigger.

lhulme_m.jpg
 
I'd love to see Ms. Kyle in one of Nolan's sequels!
 
Honestly? I hope to hell she comes back. If nothing else than to get killed off, but I really hate it when characters are skipped over in sequels. I wouldn't mind her taking second to a new female lead, and become a supporting female, even. Just as long as she came back.
 
Master Bruce said:
Honestly? I hope to hell she comes back. If nothing else than to get killed off, but I really hate it when characters are skipped over in sequels. I wouldn't mind her taking second to a new female lead, and become a supporting female, even. Just as long as she came back.

I agree completely. I hate when they leave out the female lead and not even say why or give a reason, like Vicki Vale just missing for no apparent reason in Batman Returns. I think they should keep Katie Holmes as Rachel and kill the character off or have her leave Gotham. If Katie Holmes can't return then just give a good reason why she's gone although that won't be as good.
 
I wouldnt mind Selina.
Perfect for a next love interest.
 
I want to see a slimmed down Hulme as the Joker. His face just looks too pudgy in the pic and I imagine his body is the same or bulky, which I could do without either.
 
Mr. Socko said:
I agree completely. I hate when they leave out the female lead and not even say why or give a reason, like Vicki Vale just missing for no apparent reason in Batman Returns. I think they should keep Katie Holmes as Rachel and kill the character off or have her leave Gotham. If Katie Holmes can't return then just give a good reason why she's gone although that won't be as good.

I wholeheartedly agree with both of you . . . bring the beeyitch back and kill her in the first scene!! How bad-@$$ of an opening would that be!!?? The Joker just kills dat @$$ as an opener!! It's not like she has any real roles lined up, as far as I know . . . only thing is, with her new high-profile lifestyle, she probably wouldn't be open to a cameo that just kills her off
 
If Rachel is not going to be in the sequel, it should be explained why not, on the other hand I like the news of the possiblity of Selina.
 
If Holmes finally decides not to reprise the role, what do you think of a possible recast? Just because she may not return doesn't mean the character can't show up again in the franchise. Not to mention alot of people didn't like the choice of Holmes when she was cast in BB.
 
Eh. Not a fan of it. While Holmes wasn't liked by alot of people, I personally thought she did good with what she had. Though, I guess... if they can get someone who looks enough like her and is a good actress at the same time, it wouldn't be that big of a deal.
 
Batman said:
If Holmes finally decides not to reprise the role, what do you think of a possible recast? Just because she may not return doesn't mean the character can't show up again in the franchise. Not to mention alot of people didn't like the choice of Holmes when she was cast in BB.

Though I'm not a huge fan of it, I'll accept it if she looks alot like Holmes, but I'll still have her killed off early on.
 
Master Bruce said:
Eh. Not a fan of it. While Holmes wasn't liked by alot of people, I personally thought she did good with what she had. Though, I guess... if they can get someone who looks enough like her and was a good actress at the same time, it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

Just an option, since I too think it's a bad idea to completely get rid of the character without a proper explanation why or where she went off to. If memory serves, when the Holmes rumor first came about back in November, Jett named a potential replacement. Jennifer Connelly was his pick.

Katie Holmes to quit acting?
Author: Jett
Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 6:00 AM CENTRAL TIME: According to online reports (I found this story in THE DIGITAL SPY), Katie Holmes will stop acting now that she is to be a mom. Stay at home, etc. Hey, as a parent, I can certainly understand that. (I will say if this is indeed the case - this story did originate in a UK gossip newspaper - I would hope they would re-cast the role, and not dismiss the character from the sequel. I actually like the character of Rachel Dawes and hope that she is in the next film. Jennifer Connelly anyone? Anyway, enough of this editorial.)...


batman44 said:
Though I'm not a huge fan of it, I'll accept it if she looks alot like Holmes, but I'll still have her killed off early on.

Not too early.



DeFett said:
Wow, I'm part of BOF history now.

You're the one who sent that image in?
 
Batman said:
Just an option, since I too think it's a bad idea to completely get rid of the character without a proper explanation why or where she went off to. If memory serves, when the Holmes rumor first came about back in November, Jett named a potential replacement. Jennifer Connelly was his pick.

Jennifer Connely would've been absolutely perfect for the role. If they had used her in the first place, with Begins. But since Holmes' image and youth was already established in the role, her replacement should represent both of those, at the very least. (If she's to be replaced at all, anyway...)

Seriously, though, Connely would've eliminated most of the complaints towards Begins, I feel, had she taken the role of Rachel.
 
Batman said:



Not too early.


Of course not, probably in the first hour though:O

I also agree that Jennifer would have been a perfect Rachel.
 
This news is both good news and bad news - IMO. I like continuity - so the thought of Rachel not in BB2 is a little sad. The good news is that one of my favorite back characters could get into the action faster than I though, and there will be no more Katie Holmes.

That being said:
Natalie Portman IS Selina Kyle....
 
Batman said:
You're the one who sent that image in?

Yeah, Jett used my real name as it was on my Hotmail address.

The pic was scannned in from the May Edition of Empire Magazine (Australian Version)

The movie Hulme is in is called Macbeth and is directed by the same guy that did the Australian film Romper Stomper (with Russell Crowe).

I'll scan the whole article in after I get my morning coffee.
 
I want Katie Holmes to return. At least the character. a lot of people are against this but i think her situation can lead to good plot points.

1.) She has no Batman history and serves no purpose to continuity that means she's expendable and should die. Its good for a hero to have some sense of loss. I feel they dont tackle the death of the Waynes good enough. They use it as a starting point of batman, but on emotional level they dont use it enough. Only when Liam Neeson was involved was their any real emotional level. Plus the court case in hindsight.
2.) She knows Batman and Bruce are the same person which puts her in danger and makes her valuable to villains. She would prolly have obvious ties to bats since she works in the DA office and quite possibly the new DA.
 
Master Bruce said:
Jennifer Connely would've been absolutely perfect for the role. If they had used her in the first place, with Begins. But since Holmes' image and youth was already established in the role, her replacement should represent both of those, at the very least. (If she's to be replaced at all, anyway...)

Seriously, though, Connely would've eliminated most of the complaints towards Begins, I feel, had she taken the role of Rachel.

I agree completely with this post, well said.

batman44 said:
Of course not, probably in the first hour though:O

Exactly.

StorminNorman said:
That being said:
Natalie Portman IS Selina Kyle....

Kate Beckinsale has always been my personal favorite choice.
 
Batman said:
I agree completely with this post, well said.



Exactly.



Kate Beckinsale has always been my personal favorite choice.

Beckinsale is a good choice....but come on...its Natalie Portman :D
 
DeFett said:
Yeah, Jett used my real name as it was on my Hotmail address.

The pic was scannned in from the May Edition of Empire Magazine (Australian Version)

The movie Hulme is in is called Macbeth and is directed by the same guy that did the Australian film Romper Stomper (with Russell Crowe).

I'll scan the whole article in after I get my morning coffee.

Well, all I can say is that you've contributed a great deal in the search for a decent picture of Hulme. I can see that pic being used for alot of manips, and I'd appreciate it if you could pm it to me.

StorminNorman said:
Beckinsale is a good choice....but come on...its Natalie Portman

Portman would have to be third on my list.
 
Batman said:
Well, all I can say is that you've contributed a great deal in the search for a decent picture of Hulme. I can see that pic being used for alot of manips, and I'd appreciate it if you could pm it to me.

I'll do a better scan for you.
 

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