Movie Stuff You Only Now Just Realized - Part 2

[DarkSovereignty]

IMO with the exception of the incredible hulk I feel all of the marvel films elevated the genre in some way. still like the hulk film, but I feel it needed a better director.

 

[phillyboy]

In Robocop, Officer Murphy gets gunned down on his first call-out, on his first day at a new precinct.

Murphy's Law?

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

 

[LostSon88]

I just watched "Everybody's Fine" on TV. Its a movie from 2009 starring Robert de Niro, Kate Beckinsale, Sam Rockwell and Drew Barrymore. He's a father whos adult children can't make it home for the holidays do he goes on a cross country road trip to see each and every one of them.

Gotta say, I enjoyed the movie BUT here's the thing...afterwards I looked up the trailer.

I never realized that it was marketed as a COMEDY.

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It's not. Good lord is it not. It is the FARTHEST thing from a comedy you can imagine.

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I understand this is considered common practice in Hollywood but this has gotta be one of the biggest cases of misrepresentations of a film I've ever seen.

 

[Gianakin_]

Indeed, and the semi-cute poster didn't help either. I still don't understand why they showed the same expressions on the characters' faces on the camera screen. Considering what the movie was, they should've shown them having different expressions (like, say, frustrated).

But it was a great movie wasn't it? Although the farthest thing from a comedy I can imagine is pretty sick.t:

 

[LostSon88]

Agreed. The movie was pretty fantastic. Gotta admit, I choked up a few times..

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Dominic Chianese, Hyman Roth's messenger boy, Johnny Ola, is Al Pacino's father in Dog Day Afternoon.

 

[BruceWanner]

Dominic Chianese, Hyman Roth's messenger boy, Johnny Ola, is Al Pacino's father in Dog Day Afternoon.

And, of course, he was Uncle Junior on The Sopranos.

 

[BruceWanner]

Ron Dean (Wuertz in The Dark Knight) has a long history of playing Chicago police detectives, perhaps most notably in The Fugitive (1993).

 

[LostSon88]

So does Carl Winslow.

Die Hard, Family Matters, Ghostbusters.

 

[BruceWanner]

So does Carl Winslow.

Die Hard, Family Matters, Ghostbusters.

Reginald Vel Johnson, yes of course. However the difference is he plays a cop in a different major city each time while Ron Dean seems to always be in Chicago (technically even in The Dark Knight).

 

[Team Andino]

IMO with the exception of the incredible hulk I feel all of the marvel films elevated the genre in some way. still like the hulk film, but I feel it needed a better director.

Don't know if it would be enough for you but there's about 15 minutes of deleted stuff that was good character development. I know I enjoyed the extra stuff that was left out and imagine it would of made the movie even better if it was all included.

 

[Angel_Faerie]

I wish they had kept the failed suicide scene in TIH. It was fantastic. At least they mentioned it in The Avengers,

 

[Jordacar]

Jason Isaacs typically plays either English bad guys or American good guys.

 

[CConn]

Watching M, made me realize how good of a modern noir film Burton's first Batman film was. The cinematography and art design was probably one of the most spectacular homages of movies like M I've ever seen in the modern era of film.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Yep, Burton's a huge fan of German Expressionism and it shows in Batman.

 

[CConn]

The thing is though... I really don't think I've ever seen any modern film do German Expressionism as well as Burton's Batman.

As Gotham Alleys said in his blog, "Burton's Batman movies are a mix of German Expressionism, Gothic literature (which features characters with psychological and physical terror and mystery), fairy tale, the art of silent movies, Opera and conventional filmmaking"

I don't know of any other film that has put that much emphasis on visual and thematic storytelling. Except maybe Blade Runner. And even BR is more just pure Noir than the more complex mixture of fairy tale, silent film, etc.

 

[BruceWanner]

Oh yeah, the influences of German Expressionist directors of the 1920's and early 30's including Fritz Lang, F.W. Murnau, and Robert Weine are all over Burton's 1980's and 90's films. The appearance of the Jack Nicholson version of the Joker specifically is, of course, a reference to Conrad Veidt in Paul Leni's film adaptation of Victor Hugo's "The Man Who Laughs." Batman Returns has even more of these references than Batman (1989) does. I'm positive I'm not giving any new information here lol, I just wanted to add my two cents.

 

[Dave McFly]

So does Carl Winslow.

Die Hard, Family Matters, Ghostbusters.

don't forget Turner and Hooch, he was the cop that was training to replace Turner when he left his job to go to the big city .

 

[BruceWanner]

I wish they had kept the failed suicide scene in TIH. It was fantastic. At least they mentioned it in The Avengers,

Yeah, it successfully gave Banner even more pathos (which I liked, but he arguably had enough of). Thank goodness for small favors that they referenced it in The Avengers and Mark Ruffalo's delivery of that dialogue was just perfect. The only problem with the deleted scene is that the Captain America "cameo" conflicts with the Marvel Studios canon depiction of how Cap was frozen.

 

[CConn]

Oh yeah, the influences of German Expressionist directors of the 1920's and early 30's including Fritz Lang, F.W. Murnau, and Robert Weine are all over Burton's 1980's and 90's films. The appearance of the Jack Nicholson version of the Joker specifically is, of course, a reference to Conrad Veidt in Paul Leni's film adaptation of Victor Hugo's "The Man Who Laughs." Batman Returns has even more of these references than Batman (1989) does. I'm positive I'm not giving any new information here lol, I just wanted to add my two cents.

While this is probably nothing new for you either, have you come across this yet?

http://gothamalleys.blogspot.com/2011/01/batman-in-movies.html

It's a wonderfully stated deconstruction of the Burton films.

 

[BruceWanner]

While this is probably nothing new for you either, have you come across this yet?

http://gothamalleys.blogspot.com/2011/01/batman-in-movies.html

It's a wonderfully stated deconstruction of the Burton films.

I think I have, but thank you.

 

[Sawyer]

Not strictly related to film itself, but..... how the **** did I not know that Warren Beatty and Shirley Maclaine are siblings?!

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

That the Rolling Stones song Gimme Shelter (My favorite Rolling Stones song) is in 3 different Martin Scorsese movies (Goodfellas, Casino, and The Departed).

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Not strictly related to film itself, but..... how the **** did I not know that Warren Beatty and Shirley Maclaine are siblings?!

I just learned that last year!