My First NY Mugging

Sounds like you were a victim of Cryme Tyme :huh:




Seriously though, that sounds like a really ****ty thing to happen. But at least you got away from it relatively okay.
 
Sofa said:
You feeling a little better?
Yeah, I feel pretty good about the thing in general. I'm feeling pretty lucky the physical damage wasn't worse, even though the pain right now in my throat/neck and nose is annoying. At least they didn't rip off my sack, right? I have to go through the annoyance of looking at photos tomorrow even though I don't really know what they looked like. Plus, it's kind of a bummer to know that if the cops were willing to do a little legwork, all they'd have to do is look at the numbers they've been calling on my phone for the last day to figure out who their friends/family are. I'm sure that's too much work though, as they're busy busting guys like me for drinking a beer in the street.
 
The real lesson here is not about walking in Harlem at 4 in the morning, but to not carry anything of value while doing so.
 
Wow. This is the first I'd seen of this Calvin, so I hope you're doing better. It's nice to hear that this hasn't ruined your feeling towards NY.

You've got some guts.:up:

Hopefully there's no permanent damage from this thing for you.
 
you can never see these things coming but if you feel confident in how you can handle yourself in a fight might I suggest investing in one of these
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and a can of pepper spray, fearsome combination and non-lethal. Just helps to even the odds a little

Hope you get better soon. :up:
 
War Lord said:
The real lesson here is not about walking in Harlem at 4 in the morning, but to not carry anything of value while doing so.
Well, I don't know how every mugger thinks, but most will beat you up out of frustration if they realise you don't have anything of value on you.
 
Sloth7d said:
Well, I don't know how every mugger thinks, but most will beat you up out of frustration if they realise you don't have anything of value on you.
Yeah, who knows. If they hadn't found a credit card and cell phone in my pocket that needed to be used right away, they might have taken the extra minute to kick in my teeth or something.
 
Calvin said:
Yeah, who knows. If they hadn't found a credit card and cell phone in my pocket that needed to be used right away, they might have taken the extra minute to kick in my teeth or something.

Have you considered jiu-jitsu lessons. We used to spend whole sessions on how to deal with mulitple attackers while lying on your back. It's handy stuff and since everything is reacting to attacks for the most part nothing you do can be construed as excessive force. :up:
 
Calvin, I'm truly sorry about this. The partially crushed windpipe sounds particularly awful. I hope you get better quickly and that the pain isn't too overwhelming.

Just two pieces of advice: 1) Never walk anywhere when you are drunk. 2) Never walk anywhere at night while alone. These kinds of things don't just happen in big cities. You can never be too careful.

That's to worry about in the future though. Right now, just take it day by day. There is no shame in getting counseling for the emotional trauma either. Good luck.
 
hippy fascist said:
Have you considered jiu-jitsu lessons. We used to spend whole sessions on how to deal with mulitple attackers while lying on your back. It's handy stuff and since everything is reacting to attacks for the most part nothing you do can be construed as excessive force. :up:
Yeah, I've thought about it, though money is an issue right now.
 
hippy fascist said:
Have you considered jiu-jitsu lessons. We used to spend whole sessions on how to deal with mulitple attackers while lying on your back. It's handy stuff and since everything is reacting to attacks for the most part nothing you do can be construed as excessive force. :up:

Good idea. Police officers who've been attacked will often tell you that there is no time to go for their weapon. They have to create seperation then draw their gun. That means hand to hand is the first line of defense.
 
Calvin said:
Yeah, I've thought about it, though money is an issue right now.

Fair point I had to stop when I went to uni and I'm just now getting back into it. One of the other aspects of it is the confidence issue though. It's like you project some aura of don't **** with me when you know this stuff. Also with regards the drunk thing, this is where it really comes into play, becuase after a while everything becomes instinct and you don't have to think about what you're doing I find I can still fight reasonably well when pissed nowadays :ninja:
 
hippy fascist said:
Fair point I had to stop when I went to uni and I'm just now getting back into it. One of the other aspects of it is the confidence issue though. It's like you project some aura of don't **** with me when you know this stuff. Also with regards the drunk thing, this is where it really comes into play, becuase after a while everything becomes instinct and you don't have to think about what you're doing I find I can still fight reasonably well when pissed nowadays :ninja:
Normally when walking through a shady area I try to walk around like I'm really pissed off about something. But this time I was drunk, and really happy about the way things had just gone with the girl I had been talking to, so I forgot to do that.
 
Calvin said:
Normally when walking through a shady area I try to walk around like I'm really pissed off about something. But this time I was drunk, and really happy about the way things had just gone with the girl I had been talking to, so I forgot to do that.

Also a ski amsk and a baseball does wonders for your image :woot:

One thing I would say though is that even with training if someone pulls a gun it's over, I'll give them whatever they want cause that's the one thing that can kill you in an instant, it's just not worth the hassle. Knives can be dealt with and I know some people who've been stabbed and been alright in the long run. Gun's are just too ****ing dangerous :(
 
hippy fascist said:
Also a ski amsk and a baseball does wonders for your image :woot:

One thing I would say though is that even with training if someone pulls a gun it's over, I'll give them whatever they want cause that's the one thing that can kill you in an instant, it's just not worth the hassle. Knives can be dealt with and I know some people who've been stabbed and been alright in the long run. Gun's are just too ****ing dangerous :(
Yeah, I hear that.

Is it legal to walk around with a baseball bat? It's gotta be, right?
 
hippy fascist said:
Also a ski amsk and a baseball does wonders for your image :woot:

One thing I would say though is that even with training if someone pulls a gun it's over, I'll give them whatever they want cause that's the one thing that can kill you in an instant, it's just not worth the hassle. Knives can be dealt with and I know some people who've been stabbed and been alright in the long run. Gun's are just too ****ing dangerous :(
But if it's life or death, make sure you run with your butt in the air.
You can take a gun shot in the behind, but you can't take one in the torso.
 
Calvin said:
Yeah, I hear that.

Is it legal to walk around with a baseball bat? It's gotta be, right?

I'm not sure...might be as long as you're not concealing it? :ninja:
 
Calvin said:
Yeah, I hear that.

Is it legal to walk around with a baseball bat? It's gotta be, right?
Make sure you have baseball gear on you to create the illusion you were playing baseball. Cops have harrassed my friend for carrying a baseball bat before.
 
Sloth7d said:
Make sure you have baseball gear on you to create the illusion you were playing baseball. Cops have harrassed my friend for carrying a baseball bat before.
But the illusion I want is that I'm about to jack somebody up so that I won't get mugged.
 
Calvin said:
But the illusion I want is that I'm about to jack somebody up so that I won't get mugged.
Cops might stop you if you appear that way though.
Atleast carry a baseball in your pocket.... I guess.
 
Sloth7d said:
But if it's life or death, make sure you run with your butt in the air.
You can take a gun shot in the behind, but you can't take one in the torso.

It's tricky, really you want to run in the opposite dierection to which they're facing, simply having to spin round 180 degrees will throw most people's aim off significantly (your average mugger isn't exactly an expert marksman)

another trick I used to use when walking round a rough area at night was to keep a pocket full of pennies on me, if anyone started I could just reach in the pocket and chuck the pennies at their face. It gets them off balance and gives you time to sweep their legs out from under them thus giving you control of the fight. :up:
 
as a last alternative hire on of these guy's as a bodyguard

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GRRRRRR! Look at his angry little face :woot:

skinheads are wankers but hey ,kill two birds with one stone, the skinhead protect you and takes the beating the little nazi ****head deserves at the same time :up:
 

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