Naruto - Part 1

[Lord]

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Young Obito seems to have a whole lot of similarities with Young Naruto in the "yearning for a girl that doesn't really care that much about you" department.

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I think he was allways supposed to be very similar to young Naruto even back then in Kakashi Gaiden, from the hair style, to his aspirations and dreams, and even his personality. I hope the explanation to such things as him giving the Rinegan to Nagato who's possibly as old as Minato makes sence.

 

[Liam_H]

Really enjoyed how this chapter was dialogue free, at first I thought it was a mistake. Still understood everything through the visuals.

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I seriously doubt this is the case but it would be something if he did all this because he got friend-zoned by Rin. Assuming is he actually the real Obito.

 

[craigdbfan]

I really enjoyed that too.

 

[Lord]

Really enjoyed how this chapter was dialogue free, at first I thought it was a mistake. Still understood everything through the visuals.

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I seriously doubt this is the case but it would be something if he did all this because he got friend-zoned by Rin. Assuming is he actually the real Obito.

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I really hope not, one of the things i remember that most didn't want to happen if Obito was indeed Tobi was if all he did was because he couldn't get the girl, which i actually think would be a pretty lame reveal.

 

[Liam_H]

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That would be a horrible reveal. I mean with all the flashbacks leading up to the last panel it made it seem like it was because of Rin. Or that he's now blaming everyone in the world for her death.

Also it was pretty anti-climatic that it was revealed to be Obito right on the first page, I mean why else would we flash back to that right now.

 

[craigdbfan]

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It would make sense though. He doesn't want anyone experiencing friendship, heartbreak, sorrow, hope, anger, fear, happiness by themselves. He wants to unite everyone into one sentient entity so nobody experiences these potentially painful emotions lonesome.

So it could be fueled by the loss of Rin but the plan itself is still pretty damn nuts. It's sort of benevolent and romantic in a way but totally psychotic too.

True peace if you will.

 

[Corinthian™]

Back from the dead to say.....


I ****ING CALLED IT MOTHER ****ERS!

Linky.

Older Linky.

**** your shizzle, Tobi!

****ing called it.

 

[Lord]

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It would make sense though. He doesn't want anyone experiencing friendship, heartbreak, sorrow, hope, anger, fear, happiness by themselves. He wants to unite everyone into one sentient entity so nobody experiences these potentially painful emotions lonesome.

So it could be fueled by the loss of Rin but the plan itself is still pretty damn nuts. It's sort of benevolent and romantic in a way but totally psychotic too.

True peace if you will.

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Maybe it's because of everything that happened in his life, from Rin to him failing in his dreams and objectives, possibly the war also opened his eyes to other things, before his faked death he was ready to sacrifice everything for his comrades so something must have happened for him to change like that, it was possibly Madara who did this, or in least it seems like that considering that he had to have the help of somebody and that Madara was killed by the first Hokage and knew Nagato

 

[Marvin]

I'm holding out any response till 600. Kishi has a habit of doing mega significant reveals on those round numbers.

I do think it's was rather clever of him to have Gai and Kman present at this fight though. I get it now.

 

[The Apocalypse]

I'm a little disappointed with who he is but I never really cared that much who was under the mask anyway. I expect him to be stopped one way or another. I think the real trouble is going to come after the war.

Does anyone else think after the war they're going to jump time again? Maybe with Naruto and company being adults? Kakashi being Hokage if he survives the war?

 

[Liam_H]

I thought Kishi already said this war is the last major arc of Naruto, unless he backed off on that.

 

[Lord]

I'm a little disappointed with who he is but I never really cared that much who was under the mask anyway. I expect him to be stopped one way or another. I think the real trouble is going to come after the war.

Does anyone else think after the war they're going to jump time again? Maybe with Naruto and company being adults? Kakashi being Hokage if he survives the war?

I used to think that there was going to be a Part III where Sasuke would take over as the main villain, but i don't think that will happen now, if it did then the war would have been left for that time, and Kishi said Naruto was nearing its conclusion, not to mention that there's no new power up to give them now as Naruto is already the strongest 16 years old in the manga universe

 

[Marvin]

I thought Kishi already said this war is the last major arc of Naruto, unless he backed off on that.

Kishi never delivers on such statements.
A prime example was when he declared last year was Kakahi's. He's a writer, he'll get new ideas all the time.

 

[Lord]

But with this war being kind of rushed sometimes and Kishi wanting to make his mafia manga named "Mario" i think it's safe to say that Naruto is reaching its conclusion

 

[Jick]

It is reaching its conclusion. Kishi has said this twice or thrice. The war is the last arc.

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There's got to be more to this reveal than meets the eye...no pun intended.lol

I can't buy at the moment the original Obito is the one that ended up becoming Tobi since not only was Tobi presented in being much older than what Obito was supposed to be when confronting Minato during the night that the Nine Tails was released, but it was also stated that Tobi was the one that gave Nagato is Rinnegan, and Nagato is roughly the same age as Minato.

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Same here. It's just hard to swallow this revelation.
He better come with one hell of an explanation, the best of the story so far, to convince us of his reasons.
I just hope I end up liking what Kishi did.

I'm willing to think Zetsu had a major hand in all of this.

 

[Lord]

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Madara and Zetsu definitelly had a hand on what's happening, but i wonder if Kishi is going to be able to properly explain that scene where Zatsu gives Tobi his Akatsuki ring but he still acts dumb as if Zetsu didn't know him

 

[Marvin]

Has anyone seen that hitler reacts vid to this?
I was pretty good(the one I saw anways).

 

[Lord]

Yeah i saw it, it was very funny

 

[Herolee10]

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That would be a horrible reveal. I mean with all the flashbacks leading up to the last panel it made it seem like it was because of Rin. Or that he's now blaming everyone in the world for her death.

Also it was pretty anti-climatic that it was revealed to be Obito right on the first page, I mean why else would we flash back to that right now.

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It would make sense though. He doesn't want anyone experiencing friendship, heartbreak, sorrow, hope, anger, fear, happiness by themselves. He wants to unite everyone into one sentient entity so nobody experiences these potentially painful emotions lonesome.

So it could be fueled by the loss of Rin but the plan itself is still pretty damn nuts. It's sort of benevolent and romantic in a way but totally psychotic too.

True peace if you will.

Well the newest Chapter is out..and boy, you guys were right in the mark with your theories.


Though...

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It just feels so anti climactic that all of Tobi's motivation was based on the fact that the girl that he had a crush on was killed later on. I mean his reason for a mass genocide is essentially as flawed as Sasuke's.

And I just can't buy that this is Obito without some other huge plot twist being involved since Kakashi didn't look that much older during the time of the Nine Tails attack compared to the time when he had first gotten the sharingan. I mean with the way that Tobi mentioned to Minato on how he had been waiting a long time to get the nine tails, I can't buy that a long time was just a simply a matter of a few years.

I wonder if we'll ever get a freaking villain in this universe that isn't evil because of some tragic factor in their lives.

 

[Lord]

Well the newest Chapter is out..and boy, you guys were right in the mark with your theories.


Though...

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It just feels so anti climactic that all of Tobi's motivation was based on the fact that the girl that he had a crush on was killed later on. I mean his reason for a mass genocide is essentially as flawed as Sasuke's.

And I just can't buy that this is Obito without some other huge plot twist being involved since Kakashi didn't look that much older during the time of the Nine Tails attack compared to the time when he had first gotten the sharingan. I mean with the way that Tobi mentioned to Minato on how he had been waiting a long time to get the nine tails, I can't buy that a long time was just a simply a matter of a few years.

I wonder if we'll ever get a freaking villain in this universe that isn't evil because of some tragic factor in their lives.

Seems to late now, i expected an explanation during this chapter, seems like we're going to have to wait some time, Kishi didn't make his usual reveals like in 400 and 500.

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By the way, was the end of the fight between Madara and the Kages completed? I don't remember it ending. I also think this was kind of anti-climatic, i didn't mind Tobi's reveal as much as most but this is lame.

 

[Herolee10]

Seems to late now, i expected an explanation during this chapter, seems like we're going to have to wait some time, Kishi didn't make his usual reveals like in 400 and 500.

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By the way, was the end of the fight between Madara and the Kages completed? I don't remember it ending. I also think this was kind of anti-climatic, i didn't mind Tobi's reveal as much as most but this is lame.

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I think the battle with the Kages went down where everyone thought that madara was going to be sent away once the dead seal was broken by Itachi, but madara figured out how to stay on Earth and after he showed everyone how, he just simply left them hanging.

 

[craigdbfan]

Well the newest Chapter is out..and boy, you guys were right in the mark with your theories.


Though...

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It just feels so anti climactic that all of Tobi's motivation was based on the fact that the girl that he had a crush on was killed later on. I mean his reason for a mass genocide is essentially as flawed as Sasuke's.

And I just can't buy that this is Obito without some other huge plot twist being involved since Kakashi didn't look that much older during the time of the Nine Tails attack compared to the time when he had first gotten the sharingan. I mean with the way that Tobi mentioned to Minato on how he had been waiting a long time to get the nine tails, I can't buy that a long time was just a simply a matter of a few years.

I wonder if we'll ever get a freaking villain in this universe that isn't evil because of some tragic factor in their lives.

haha looks like I was right on the money.

I personally really dig it and the end goal is still pretty intricate and elaborate so I do appreciate that about it but the fuel that has been driving Tobi/Obito will put off some people who will recognize this manga trope coming from a mile away.

It'll be interesting to see where this is going but it looks like Kishi is just about close to wrapping everything up. Which leaves into question as to what the heck is going to happen to Sasuke his golden boy.

Time will tell I suppose.

 

[Lord]

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I think the battle with the Kages went down where everyone thought that madara was going to be sent away once the dead seal was broken by Itachi, but madara figured out how to stay on Earth and after he showed everyone how, he just simply left them hanging.

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Oh, i had hopes that 5 clones for each Kage to fight meant in least 1 chapter for each Kage to show their individual abilities, in the end they were defeated without much difficulty

 

[Liam_H]

Well the newest Chapter is out..and boy, you guys were right in the mark with your theories.


Though...

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It just feels so anti climactic that all of Tobi's motivation was based on the fact that the girl that he had a crush on was killed later on. I mean his reason for a mass genocide is essentially as flawed as Sasuke's.

And I just can't buy that this is Obito without some other huge plot twist being involved since Kakashi didn't look that much older during the time of the Nine Tails attack compared to the time when he had first gotten the sharingan. I mean with the way that Tobi mentioned to Minato on how he had been waiting a long time to get the nine tails, I can't buy that a long time was just a simply a matter of a few years.

I wonder if we'll ever get a freaking villain in this universe that isn't evil because of some tragic factor in their lives.

Sigh...

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I will reserve judgement now because there has to be more to this story. Right, right?

The whole age of Tobi when he fought Minato could be explained by that wasn't really him. Maybe it was actually Madara at that time but Obito
took on the mask later. Could be part of how they're connected.

 

[Lord]

Sigh...

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I will reserve judgement now because there has to be more to this story. Right, right?

The whole age of Tobi when he fought Minato could be explained by that wasn't really him. Maybe it was actually Madara at that time but Obito
took on the mask later. Could be part of how they're connected.

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It could still be Obito though, Naruto evolved from biggest failure of the academy to one of the most powerful ninjas of all time in only 2 years.