Horror Netflix orders modernized 'Haunting of Hill House' from Mike Flanagan

People use the "cheap jump scare" complaint ad nauseam and usually wrongly just like the "plothole" critique.

Not all jump scares are "cheap". That's why there is a distinction, in the first place, between jump scare and cheap jump scare.

A cheap jump scare is a loud noise and a cat jumping on someone. A picture falling off a wall unexpectedly. A fridge making a sudden loud mechanical sound. A door slamming unexpectedly. Etc. It's a mundane typically non threatening thing doing something harmless but presented in an abrupt manner to get a scare. Its lazy and doesnt serve any purpose other than achieving an easy scare.

A legitimate ghost or demon or villain coming out of nowhere and screaming to get people to stop arguing. Or a scary thing behaving in a way that adheres to the rules of the story and the rules and behavior of the character isnt cheap. It's just a jump scare. It's an actual scary or threatening thing behaving in a scary way. Its a legitimate mechanic in the horror genre.

Take the Bent Neck Lady for example.

She often appears unexpectedly and suddenly. Literally dropping onto Nell. Its revealed that the Bent Neck Lady is nell in the moment she hanged herself. Its Nell's spirit outside of time appearing in different times in Nell's life. When she drops suddenly on Nell its because Nell hanged herself and the spirit is carrying that downward motion in death through time. It's a sort of death echo. It's a legitimately scary thing behaving in a scary way that has logic and adheres to the story and its rules. It has a logic, it required story planning and extensive execution, and it carries across multiple episodes. That isnt cheap.

Take the ghost screaming in the car when Theo and Shirley are arguing. It happens because Theo and Shirley are arguing and refusing to listen to each other. The ghost gets them to stop arguing and Shirley to finally listen to what Theo desperately needs to say. It serves a well thought out purpose and advances the character development and the plot. That isnt cheap.
 
3 episodes in & hooked. Will try to get a few more done tonight.

Going to be interesting to see where
the thing with the Kevin Harris cheque book & theo goes
 
I really do not want a 2nd season just because
I'm so satisfied with how things ended
but I imagine even the cast wants one. I suppose they can come back in different roles but still, it's not the same.
 
An anthology series could be good -- New House, new cast each time. :)
 
Actually grew up in a haunted house and currently writing a film about my experiences - coincidentally and awesomely it deals with many of the same themes in how there are many different types of ghosts metaphorically. So, I found it amazing they went there. I found it more emotionally draining than frightening or nightmare inducing. I'll admit I basically cried during the whole epilogue, it just - pun not intentional - hit home.
 
Curious to see if this gets any love from the Emmys next year.

If I had it my way, Hutton and Gugino would both be nominated. Victoria Pedretti too, but she's so new, I could see her being snubbed.
 
Curious to see if this gets any love from the Emmys next year.

If I had it my way, Hutton and Gugino would both be nominated. Victoria Pedretti too, but she's so new, I could see her being snubbed.
I thought the actor the played Luke was superb, I hadn't seen him in anything before.
 
Featurette about the making of that incredible episode 6, "Two Storms":

 
Yeah I tried watching this, and while I liked the mood and atmosphere, it just bored me to death. It just drags almost too slow at times.
 
Still haven't seen this but I'm loving all the exposure that Mike Flanagan is receiving.
 
Still haven't seen this but I'm loving all the exposure that Mike Flanagan is receiving.
This feels like it's my gateway drug into us stuff. I was already interested on account of Doctor Sleep, but this show has really lit a fire under me. Luckily like 90% of his filmography is on Netflix.
 
Mike Flanagan is open to doing a second season. Possible anthology.

This has a very clear ending. But could there be a season two?

I don’t want to speculate too much about season two until Netflix and Paramount and Amblin let us know if they want one. What I will say, though, is that as far as I’ve ever been concerned with this, the story of the Crain family is told. It’s done. I think that there are all sorts of different directions we could go in, with the house or with something completely different. I love the idea of an anthology as well. But to me, I felt like the Crains have been through enough, and we left them exactly as we all wanted to remember them, those of us who worked on it. We toyed with a cliffhanger ending and we toyed with other ideas, but ultimately, in the writers’ room and with the cast and everything else, we really felt like the story demanded a certain kind of closure from us and we were happy to close the book on that family.

That said, I think more than anything, the show is about haunted places and haunted people, as Steve says, and there’s no shortage of either. So, there’s any number of things we could do, in or out of Hill House.


'The Haunting of Hill House' creator answers burning questions and reveals hidden clues
 
I vote for anthology series. :D
 
Mike Flanagan is open to doing a second season. Possible anthology.
Seems the best way to go, if a second season is needed. Maybe go period with it. Like during the creation of the house or something.
 
A gothic horror period piece would be cool.
 
As long as it doesn't turn into something like American Horror Story I'm all for it.
 
This feels like it's my gateway drug into us stuff. I was already interested on account of Doctor Sleep, but this show has really lit a fire under me. Luckily like 90% of his filmography is on Netflix.

Yeah, I immediately added all his stuff on Netflix to my queue and started watching Oculus last night.
 
This feels like it's my gateway drug into us stuff. I was already interested on account of Doctor Sleep, but this show has really lit a fire under me. Luckily like 90% of his filmography is on Netflix.

Yeah, I immediately added all his stuff on Netflix to my queue and started watching Oculus last night.

Same. Also, FYI, for all doing the same, Oculus leaves Netflix on the 1st so watch that one first.
 
Definitely check out Hush. The actress that played Theo in Haunting plays a deaf woman and an intruder breaks into her house and she has to outwit him and survive. It's a simple film, but a good one.
 
This feels like it's my gateway drug into us stuff. I was already interested on account of Doctor Sleep, but this show has really lit a fire under me. Luckily like 90% of his filmography is on Netflix.
You won't regret it. Shame that Ouija 2 isn't on there.
 
Man I loved this show. Beautiful mix of things. Relatable characters you care about and their stories individually and together are great. This has atmosphere and is extremely eerie and creepy. One jump scare in particular got me big time
bent neck lady aka Nell jumping out of the backseat of the car

The end really got me choked up honestly. One the music kicked in (I even looked up the song cause it was excellent). And
Steve talking to his wife and the montage of the family etc.

It’s not just a show for Halloween about a haunted house and being scared. It’s really about this family and all they’ve been through. And the ghosts that haunt them not just literal ghosts but past experiences and things they’ve done in their lives.

Really a must watch :up: Solid 9/10 for me. Some great acting too and the casting of the children and their adult counterparts was excellent.
 
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Finished Oculus. Fantastic little flick. Definitely a template for some of the ideas and techniques that Flanagan explores a little more expansively/subtly in Hill House.

And talk about dark/depressing endings! I think it was fine for Oculus given that the characters were kind of thin but trying to imagine an ending of that nature for the Hill House characters--who were more fully realized and who we spent a lot more time with--sort of makes me want to cry/throw up.

I do think that the tone of the Hill House ending could have used a few aesthetic tweaks and maybe a little clarity about the remaining menace/predatory nature of the House, but I am glad we got some "peace and hope" in that ending to go along with the tragedy and darkness.
Anyways, can't wait to check out more of Flanagan's stuff. What a talent. I am getting more and more amped for Doctor Sleep.
 
So this is going to take me a while to get through. Have to keep pausing it!
 

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