New Joe Fridays Week 8

[Zaptoitnow]

actually, if they came out with an E-reader type device (in terms of power efficiency/storage and whatnot) that allowed me to take my digital comics away from teh computer desk and say to a chair or my bed, I'd be interested in seeing it in action. That's the only way digital comics would ever really work, if they find a way to somewhat recapture the original experience. Imagine though, you have your comics saved on a hard-drive, a reference bubble is in a panel, saying t check out ASM #763 for what Hobgoblin is talking about, and all you have to do is select that editor's note to go right ot the panel in the issue that they were talking about. No more bagging and boarding, and you can easily access any issue you own? I'm in.

 

[Darthphere]

actually, if they came out with an E-reader type device (in terms of power efficiency/storage and whatnot) that allowed me to take my digital comics away from teh computer desk and say to a chair or my bed, I'd be interested in seeing it in action. That's the only way digital comics would ever really work, if they find a way to somewhat recapture the original experience. Imagine though, you have your comics saved on a hard-drive, a reference bubble is in a panel, saying t check out ASM #763 for what Hobgoblin is talking about, and all you have to do is select that editor's note to go right ot the panel in the issue that they were talking about. No more bagging and boarding, and you can easily access any issue you own? I'm in.

Well they have E-Books already, I just havent ever researched them.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

people have been trying and failing to guess scientific advancements for years. i just can't see it happening in 30years time.

Also: Imagine though, you have your comics saved on a hard-drive, a reference bubble is in a panel, saying t check out ASM #763 for what Hobgoblin is talking about, and all you have to do is select that editor's note to go right ot the panel in the issue and... the computer/electronic reader crashes. All your comics are lost. Yay! lol. i'm sure by the time it happens there'll be ways around this. there'll at least be back-ups etc but still, you get the point...

 

[Darthphere]

people have been trying and failing to guess scientific advancements for years. i just can't see it happening in 30years time.

Also: Imagine though, you have your comics saved on a hard-drive, a reference bubble is in a panel, saying t check out ASM #763 for what Hobgoblin is talking about, and all you have to do is select that editor's note to go right ot the panel in the issue and... the computer/electronic reader crashes. All your comics are lost. Yay! lol. i'm sure by the time it happens there'll be ways around this. there'll at least be back-ups etc but still, you get the point...

Its already happening, slowly but surely more and more comic books are ending up on line, whole new omic book lines are being created web exclusive, its closer than you think.

 

[iloveclones]

it won't work though. you can download them for FREE. how are they gonna cover that. and have you tried reading comics electronically? it's not the same. it's just not. and as long as enough people think it's a step backward it won't happen. how is a young person of 8 gonna get into comics if he has to sit at home, indoors, in front of his PC to read them. its got the exact same arguments as with books. they'll be on paper.the only thing i can think of that might work as well is electronic paper, but i still have no idea how that works

he could'a at least said how he thought it'd work or if he would ever try to make it happen

Are you talking about the same 8-yr old that has to scrape together $3 just for one comic? I'm willing to bet free looks pretty good to him.

I agree that they haven't come up with a satisfactory reader for comics. Or books for that matter. e-Books never really cracked the internet in half did they? That said, I like having and inventory of comics on my computer, so if I want to check something out real quick, I don't have to go through my long-boxes.

I'm willing to bet that right now there's someone out there working on making a low-cost portable device (kind of like a lap-top lite) that would be specific to reading "book-type" material. No need for a key board, just some navigation keys. If there was one, don't you think some people (not all) would prefer to download the morning paper, the latest Stephen King book, grocery flyers and this weeks comics, and just carry them all along with him?I think we'll see something like this in the near future.

 

[Darthphere]

Are you talking about the same 8-yr old that has to scrape together $3 just for one comic? I'm willing to bet free looks pretty good to him.

I agree that they haven't come up with a satisfactory reader for comics. Or books for that matter. e-Books never really cracked the internet in half did they? That said, I like having and inventory of comics on my computer, so if I want to check something out real quick, I don't have to go through my long-boxes.

I'm willing to bet that right now there's someone out there working on making a low-cost portable device (kind of like a lap-top lite) that would be specific to reading "book-type" material. No need for a key board, just some navigation keys. If there was one, don't you think some people (not all) would prefer to download the morning paper, the latest Stephen King book, grocery flyers and this weeks comics, and just carry them all along with him?I think we'll see something like this in the near future.

Plus, we need an iTunes type thing for downloading them. Free comics will never happen. Upload your pull list, and your credit card number, every wednesday you wake up turn on your computer, pop up screen shows up : Do you want to buy these comics, look at the list add/select, look through the library for other issues you might want. Hit checkout, pay 99 cents-$1.99 per comics, in a matter of minutes your whole pull list is ready for you to read.

 

[deathshead2]

I hate the idea of online comics makes won't help comic shops at all.It will just help them close faster

 

[hippie_hunter]

JQ: Motteditor, I get it, you don't like Bendis, that's cool, you've made it pretty clear across the 'net that you feel that way. That said, New Avengers under Bendis is arguably the best selling comic in the entire industry. So, while fandom is divided on almost every single thing done by every single publisher, judging by the popularity of New Avengers, they're not really all that divided on this issue. And yes, while we could launch a second Avengers title with someone who is less polarizing for you, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who is going to have boatloads of people running to their retailers to purchase this title than Bendis and Frank Cho.

Is it just me, or does Quesada come off as a huge ass with that comment.

Sales do not equate quality dammit The reason why New Avengers sells well is because it has a very popular writer and very popular characters! Once this book gets a new writer, this damn book is going to drop in sales just like JLA did.

 

[Darthphere]

Is it just me, or does Quesada come off as a huge ass with that comment.

Sales do not equate quality dammit The reason why New Avengers sells well is because it has a very popular writer and very popular characters! Once this book gets a new writer, this damn book is going to drop in sales just like JLA did.

He pretty much admits that he only gave Bendis a 2nd Avengers title because it sells. At least hes being honest.

 

[iloveclones]

Is it just me, or does Quesada come off as a huge ass with that comment.

Sales do not equate quality dammit The reason why New Avengers sells well is because it has a very popular writer and very popular characters! Once this book gets a new writer, this damn book is going to drop in sales just like JLA did.

You know, the reason could be that people (like myself) like it.

Nah, that's ridiculous....

 

[Sentry2005]

Yeah, it sucks, but it's refreshing that he just came out and said it.

I think i'll be dropping New Avengers now anyway... Not a fan of the new regular artist.

 

[hippie_hunter]

You know, the reason could be that people (like myself) like it.

Nah, that's ridiculous....

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that sales don't equate quality which is what Quesada is saying.

New Avengers sells because it has a HUGE name writer (Brian Bendis) and HUGE name characters (Spider-Man, Wolverine, Captain America, Iron Man). Which reminds me of a certain book called JLA (Grant Morrison staring Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Green Lantern, and Aquaman).

Whether or not a book has quality or not is a matter of opinion.

 

[hippie_hunter]

He pretty much admits that he only gave Bendis a 2nd Avengers title because it sells. At least hes being honest.

That pisses me off. Oh well at least the Hulk, Wasp (Yellowjacket has to be in it by default), and Ms. Marvel will become Avengers again. Which kicks ass.

 

[Sentry2005]

That pisses me off. Oh well at least the Hulk, Wasp (Yellowjacket has to be in it by default), and Ms. Marvel will become Avengers again. Which kicks ass.

I want Wonderman back in, but no... he gets the greatest mini series of all time... no wait... he gets a lame ass mini series about him helping a super villain rehabilitate, with 'comical side affects'... lame

 

[iloveclones]

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that sales don't equate quality which is what Quesada is saying.
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Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see him saying that in that quote. What I see him saying is that it sells. And sells well. If I were his boss, and he fired Bendis, or took him off this book, I'd hand him his hat by the end of the day. JQ's job is to promote everything they do. If he wasn't going around saying Howling Commandos is the best book ever, he's not doing his job. His job is to sell comics. Period.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see him saying that in that quote. What I see him saying is that it sells. And sells well. If I were his boss, and he fired Bendis, or took him off this book, I'd hand him his hat by the end of the day. JQ's job is to promote everything they do. If he wasn't going around saying Howling Commandos is the best book ever, he's not doing his job. His job is to sell comics. Period.

But the thing is whenever someone does tell him that they don't think that New Avengers is all that great he goes off and basically says that "New Avengers is the best selling comic in the industry so f**k off ya loser!"

I'd rather see someone else like Brubaker, Slott, Kirkman, Loeb, PAD, JMS, etc to work on the Avengers, not another Bendis Avengers title.

 

[hippie_hunter]

What else pisses me off is that this book is also going to sell well because it is going to have Bendis and have more big names such as the Hulk either Captain America or Iron Man, and others even if it does suck (like New Avengers does).

 

[Darthphere]

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see him saying that in that quote. What I see him saying is that it sells. And sells well. If I were his boss, and he fired Bendis, or took him off this book, I'd hand him his hat by the end of the day. JQ's job is to promote everything they do. If he wasn't going around saying Howling Commandos is the best book ever, he's not doing his job. His job is to sell comics. Period.

But by that same logic it be like if DC said, you know All Star Batman is selling through the roof, lets give Miller another Batman book.

Its cool, we get it, he sells, doesnt mean he should get a second Avengers title.

 

[Sentry2005]

I'd rather see someone else like Brubaker, Slott, Kirkman, Loeb, PAD, JMS, etc to work on the Avengers, not another Bendis Avengers title.

I'd quite like to see Vaughn's take on the Avengers

 

[Specter313]

I want Wonderman back in, but no... he gets the greatest mini series of all time... no wait... he gets a lame ass mini series about him helping a super villain rehabilitate, with 'comical side affects'... lame

Did you miss the part where they said he's expected to be a part of the Mighty Avengers title?

 

[Sentry2005]

Did you miss the part where they said he's expected to be a part of the Mighty Avengers title?

Well, obviously, Mr Fruity Pants, I did! So shut up!!

 

[Specter313]

Well, obviously, Mr Fruity Pants, I did! So shut up!!

Someone needs a chill pill.

 

[Sentry2005]

Someone needs a chill pill.

Sorry, been arguing with Jplaya, SupermanSmash and Brollyknight. It's like trying to head butt a brick wall only to find out its made of jello

 

[hippie_hunter]

Did you miss the part where they said he's expected to be a part of the Mighty Avengers title?

Awesome, maybe now, the Avengers will truly feel like the Avengers. Asides from Ares and Wolverine being on the team.

 

[Dread]

So Joe is pretty much completely admitting that the only reason Mighty Avengers exists is for sales. Yay, I'm so looking forward.

I hate the fact that Wanda is going to appear in New Avengers before she appears in Young Avengers. Lords, please keep her as far away as Bendis as possible and as close to Heinberg as possible. Let not Bendis fck up any plans for her that Heinberg might have. Thank you.

Well, technically, the only reason NEW AVENGERS was made was to get Spider-Man and Wolverine on the team, and to relaunch it with Bendis. What? Marvel having a shallow reason for a new franchise book is NEW? Sheesh, at least half of all the X-books launched for the past 7 years were solely to milk X-fans. Avengers is now as big so Marvel is repeating the process to get as many sales as possible before the bubble inevitably bursts and they have to retrench. In economics, it used to be called "boom and bust".

And I agree about the Wanda situation; I mentioned it in the RETURN OF HAWKEYE topic. I'd have rather she had her first reappearence in YA Volume 2 next year, since Heinberg was leaning towards that. Wouldn't that have been a great hook for the first arc? But, that's too far in the future, let's throw that to Bendis, a top dog who really doesn't have enough bones, what with the "best selling book in the industry", plus a few other titles, plus a role as one of the "Knights of the Roundtable" at "creator retreats" where only the Big 7 writers get to attend. Heinberg in YA SPECIAL seemed to recall when Scarlet Witch was a heroine (one of Marvel's most longtime), rather than an insane, PMS-ing plot device. Plus, Bendis has a mad-on for reviving HOM stuff, since that was his baby. But THE COLLECTIVE did that and half of it was lame. I'm not looking foward to more. For chrissakes, even the X-BOOKS all but tried to forget that DECIMATION happened, that was why much of the fallout had to happen in spin-off mini's. The rest of fandom wants to forget HOM. Move on, Bendis.

And y'know what's really tragic? Brain M. Bendis is pretty much Marvel's top selling writer. He has the #1 book of the company and whatever he seems to want, he gets, because his sales are incredible. He revived DAREDEVIL, launched USM and made it a Top 10 book for years, co-launched ULTIMATE FAN 4, etc. He's their Top Dog Writer, their head ****e in the Bordello of Ideas, the one writer that I am convinced Joe Q and any editor would allow to butcher, maim, kill, or destroy any character or franchise if he wanted so. And not even HE is immune to having his story details ruined weeks in advance by Marvel. Joe Q HIMSELF gave away the biggest shocker from USM #98 at SDCC a good week or so in advance, and naturally that leaked all over the 'net. The lesson? Not even their #1 can keep his stories secret from Marvel's "spoil it for spoiler's sake" solict policy. And then Joe Q makes a joke complaining about how much his own company's solicts reveal? Cripes.