New Mutants New Mutants News and Discussion - Part 2

[slugzilla]

do u have any details on other x-men projects like gambit? Why is production still moving forward on it since Dark Phoenix is supposed to be the last one? Can you clear this up?

I don't know anyone that's directly worked on Gambit, so I can't really give you any exact details, but the word going around is that it's not gonna happen. At this point I'd be surprised if X-Force sees a release.

 

[1627523]

I don't know anyone that's directly worked on Gambit, so I can't really give you any exact details, but the word going around is that it's not gonna happen. At this point I'd be surprised if X-Force sees a release.

Will this new comcast bid change anything?

 

[psylockolussus]

Comcast ain't getting Fox.

I don't know anyone that's directly worked on Gambit, so I can't really give you any exact details, but the word going around is that it's not gonna happen. At this point I'd be surprised if X-Force sees a release.

Wasn't that obvious after three directors bailing out. Oh Fox.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Will this new comcast bid change anything?

My understanding is there's some kind of clause in the contract that would let Marvel take back their properties if Fox sells to another person. Maybe just a rumor, who knows?

By all reports, Fox wants to sell to Disney. They think it's better for Fox's shares and has fewer regulatory hurdles. But there's a current regulatory deal that could, in theory, show the hurdles aren't so bad.

I'm honestly surprised there's not some kind of way to lock in a deal. Comcast keeps bidding, but you'd think there would have to be a point where all contracts are signed.

 

[terry78]

Comcast jumping in like this is ****ing eBay.

 

[slugzilla]

Will this new comcast bid change anything?

Considering the fact that Disney is already throwing their weight around issuing "unofficial" mandates about script changes, delaying of films, etc, I would say that the whole Comcast story is a red herring of some sort.

 

[GuestStar2004]

A red herring for what? either the Comcast story going round is BS or they really are serious in trying to get FOX and seem to feel they still stand a chance.

Disney pulling any weight around is still odd because from what i hear that would risk sabotaging the deal if information of any back and forth got out at all.

Unless every bit of information (including what producers and execs say) going round is wrong and the real truth is whats happening behind the scenes then its just confusing.

 

[psylockolussus]

Considering the fact that Disney is already throwing their weight around issuing "unofficial" mandates about script changes, delaying of films, etc, I would say that the whole Comcast story is a red herring of some sort.

Disney is a BO$$!

 

[Weather Witch]

Considering the fact that Disney is already throwing their weight around issuing "unofficial" mandates about script changes, delaying of films, etc, I would say that the whole Comcast story is a red herring of some sort.

Disney is not doing any of the above. If they did that would actually put the entire deal at risk.

 

[slugzilla]

Disney is not doing any of the above. If they did that would actually put the entire deal at risk.

Okay, if you say so. Clearly everything about this deal is above board and up to government standards. No back channel communications here. No mouseketeers to be found lurking around various Foxholes. That sort of thing is simply not done in this proud and wholly honest industry.

 

[psylockolussus]

Lol eXactly. We know how "honest and fair" these companies are...

 

[GuestStar2004]

That sort of thing is simply not done in this proud and wholly honest industry.

Certainly sounds like a risk on their part.

 

[Drexelhand]

My understanding is there's some kind of clause in the contract that would let Marvel take back their properties if Fox sells to another person. Maybe just a rumor, who knows?

By all reports, Fox wants to sell to Disney. They think it's better for Fox's shares and has fewer regulatory hurdles. But there's a current regulatory deal that could, in theory, show the hurdles aren't so bad.

I'm honestly surprised there's not some kind of way to lock in a deal. Comcast keeps bidding, but you'd think there would have to be a point where all contracts are signed.

If such a clause does exist, it would pertain to the X-Men IP being sold, not the company that holds the X-Men IP - remember, the rights were procured for Fox by the Donners right after Titanic came out, you know, the biggest movie ever made and the most successful at the time? Who the **** would think to put in a clause to revert rights if Fox got sold? In the case that the company is sold, the X-Men IP's rights are not transferred unless the company is dissolved. This is assuming that Fox even actually holds the rights. For all we know the Donners hold the rights since they were the ones to procure them back in the early 90s and its a situation like Constantin where Fox are close partners.

By the reports, Murdoch only wants to sell to Disney because he wants his idiot sons to take over Disney (and by extension, ABC News) and because he thinks it will be a surefire to pass regulatory struggles. Comcast will have absolutely no problem swooping in passing regulatory struggles if AT&T and Time Warner merge (which is looking very likely). A Comcast merger would give Murdoch's sons control over a much larger company than Disney.

 

[Mike Murdock]

You're asking who would put a clause like that in? It would be Marvel. Marvel put a lot of conditions on the portrayal of the characters, for example, I could see them having a problem with Playboy buying the rights or something like that. Marvel's deals seem bad from our perspective, but they were a give and take and both sides did get something from it. I disagree with the idea that they sold to the first bidder without thinking more about it.

 

[Drexelhand]

You're asking who would put a clause like that in? It would be Marvel. Marvel put a lot of conditions on the portrayal of the characters, for example, I could see them having a problem with Playboy buying the rights or something like that. Marvel's deals seem bad from our perspective, but they were a give and take and both sides did get something from it. I disagree with the idea that they sold to the first bidder without thinking more about it.

No, I'm not asking WHO would put a clause in, I'm saying it would be moronic to put such a clause in under normal circumstances, even more so when FOX just released the biggest movie ever at the time while Marvel was about to shut down business. A clause saying transferal of ownership of IP would allow rights to revert makes sense, but when the ownership is being bought, the rights aren't being transferred, they are still with that ownership, it just so happens that the ownership has a larger ownership. This **** happened with the Crash Bandicoot rights through Vivendi, Sierra and Activision, SCE's ownership in the stake was never actually settled until the N. Sane Trilogy deal was made.

 

[Weather Witch]

Lol eXactly. We know how "honest and fair" these companies are...

That has absolutely nothing to do with it. Do you honestly think they'd authorize any actions that puts a $52 billion deal at risk?

 

[psylockolussus]

Well tell that to Disney and Fox. Honestly, I'm not surprised if Disney is already calling the shots (secretly), especially they have a big investment in this.

 

[x-er]

Disney is a BO$$!

how is it a fact that disney is involved with fox's current work? we've gotten no news of that, or new footage, trailers, posters, etc.

 

[psylockolussus]

They don't need to report their every move to the press.

 

[-JKR-]

My understanding is there's some kind of clause in the contract that would let Marvel take back their properties if Fox sells to another person. Maybe just a rumor, who knows?

By all reports, Fox wants to sell to Disney. They think it's better for Fox's shares and has fewer regulatory hurdles. But there's a current regulatory deal that could, in theory, show the hurdles aren't so bad.

I'm honestly surprised there's not some kind of way to lock in a deal. Comcast keeps bidding, but you'd think there would have to be a point where all contracts are signed.

Nope, man. Even if Comcast buys the studio, the rights would still be with by 20th Century Fox.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Do you have any link that says that?

 

[Mike Murdock]

You're free to speculate and disagree with the reports I saw, but that doesn't make your speculation automatically right or the reports wrong. It all depends on what's in the contracts, which neither one of us have seen.

 

[slugzilla]

Guys the deal is done. And I have a scoop, exclusively for my fellow New Mutants fans.

Spoiler

A friend of mine has informed me that he/she is currently involved (I won't say exactly how) in the inclusion of Galactus in the MCU. Likely for the Infinity War sequel. (he/she is not exactly sure which movie it is for yet.)

 

[GuestStar2004]

slugzilla you have claimed in the past that New Mutants were gonna show up in X-Force in a small way but they recently have said there is no script and the characters haven't been fully decided apon... so where does this information come from that the New Mutants are or were gonna be in X-FORCE? and if by chance the producers always knew the new mutants were gonna show up in X-Force (even with no script) then why was that gonna be a priority?

 

[Drexelhand]

You're free to speculate and disagree with the reports I saw, but that doesn't make your speculation automatically right or the reports wrong. It all depends on what's in the contracts, which neither one of us have seen.

So, how about next time you say that the rights revert if Fox is sold to another company, you expressly say after that you have no source to prove that either.

Guys the deal is done. And I have a scoop, exclusively for my fellow New Mutants fans.

Spoiler

A friend of mine has informed me that he/she is currently involved (I won't say exactly how) in the inclusion of Galactus in the MCU. Likely for the Infinity War sequel. (he/she is not exactly sure which movie it is for yet.)

And yet, the only deal that appears to be done is AT&T/Time Warner and Comcast seems real ready to slide into Fox's DMs.