Apocalypse Nightcrawler in the Apocalypse Movie

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Exactly... I don't just say things just to say em.. contrary to popular belief

 

[Malik]

I don't see what the big issue would be with Kurt having an image inducer at least in some portions of the movie. I don't see how he could function in the world without at least something to cover his normal appearance.

You have to remember, mutants weren't outed in First Class - they were brought to attention in DOFP so by 1983, mutant hate is still going to be high. I wouldn't be shocked at all if they used something to hide his appearance at least early in the film.

It could be a great teaching moment between Nightcrawler and an older Beast.

I agree, plus unless nightcrawler is going to stay locked up in the X mansion they should find a way to make him look human. They did it in the comics and in evolution so I don't get the complaining tbh.

 

[psylockolussus]

If Kurt has to hide his mutant identity, do it the X2 way, put a lot of make-up and wear some baggy clothes. Thats what he did when he trespassed the White House. There's no need for an image inducer. I feel like an image inducer would just benefit the crew for not spending much time in make-up.

 

[dax]

I don't see what the big issue would be with Kurt having an image inducer at least in some portions of the movie. I don't see how he could function in the world without at least something to cover his normal appearance.

You have to remember, mutants weren't outed in First Class - they were brought to attention in DOFP so by 1983, mutant hate is still going to be high. I wouldn't be shocked at all if they used something to hide his appearance at least early in the film.

It could be a great teaching moment between Nightcrawler and an older Beast.

How can there still be mutant hate even after the whole world witnessed Mystique save President Nixon from Magneto on live TV? You would think the humans would be more accepting of mutants after that event seeing as how the sentinel program got cancelled for that particular reason.

 

[Kermit_The_Frog]

How can there still be mutant hate even after the whole world witnessed Mystique save President Nixon from Magneto on live TV? You would think the humans would be more accepting of mutants after that event seeing as how the sentinel program got cancelled for that particular reason.

Even though Mystique saved The President and his Cabinet, Magneto still dropped a stadium over the White House and practically said, "Don't F**k with us Mutants." Mutant Hate still exists. That's something that won't go away. People are more aware of their existence, but that doesn't mean they'll all be accepting of them.

 

[Super Jim]

I don't see what the big issue would be with Kurt having an image inducer at least in some portions of the movie. I don't see how he could function in the world without at least something to cover his normal appearance.

You have to remember, mutants weren't outed in First Class - they were brought to attention in DOFP so by 1983, mutant hate is still going to be high. I wouldn't be shocked at all if they used something to hide his appearance at least early in the film.

It could be a great teaching moment between Nightcrawler and an older Beast.

I am against the image inducer idea as well.

You ask how Kurt could have functioned in the world without one.

Well, just like it was done in the comics, hopefully...

When we first met Kurt he was at the circus. His appearance was part of his act and the audience believed it was a costume. Plus, in a circus environment, freaks are somewhat the norm.

When he came to the X-Men his appearance was mostly accepted (although he scared Kitty). Living at the mansion he didn't have exposure to the outside world that often, unless he was on mission.

I guess what I'm saying is that this is what I hope they will do for Kurt. I would much rather they not make him just one more character trying to hide his appearance! That's been overdone in this X-Men movie-verse. Now, if they want to have his appearance frighten young Jubilee (instead of Kitty), then fine, that could be part of their development, but no inducer.

As far as the general populace, or the government, being scared of mutants, just because one mutant decided not to kill the President it wouldn't stop the fear. People fear that which is unknown. People fear power. If we lived in a world where one person had the power to lift a stadium into the air and drop it on the capital, there would be fear as well. Yes, for whatever reason, they didn't go forward with the sentinal program. Kind of stupid if you ask me since they already had them in production, so they wouldn't just stop because Mystique didn't pull the trigger, no that program would have continued.

But what would have made sense is if that had led to Mystique leading a government sponsored team of mutants, who police other mutants. Hmm... I know I've seen something like that in the comics:

http://marvel.wikia.com/Freedom_Force_(Earth-616)

Now that would have made sense. This is what Mystique should have been doing these past few years. And this, just like in the comics, could have led to the government sponsored X-Factor down the road!

But without Havok as the leader, that story would be lessened.

See how we keep coming around to continuity issues!

 

[ciscostudent561]

Even though Mystique saved The President and his Cabinet, Magneto still dropped a stadium over the White House and practically said, "Don't F**k with us Mutants." Mutant Hate still exists. That's something that won't go away. People are more aware of their existence, but that doesn't mean they'll all be accepting of them.

what he said

 

[The Infernal]

I know FC gave us what was kinda a darker version of Nightcrawler (in a sense) who did a bit of sword fighting, but I would love it if we could see this Nightcrawler do some sword fighting.

Spoiler

 

[dax]

Even though Mystique saved The President and his Cabinet, Magneto still dropped a stadium over the White House and practically said, "Don't F**k with us Mutants." Mutant Hate still exists. That's something that won't go away. People are more aware of their existence, but that doesn't mean they'll all be accepting of them.

But Mystique's actions should've showed the humans that not all mutants are anything like Magneto. Otherwise, what's the point of the ending to DOFP? If mutant hate still exists, then the government wouldn't have cancelled the sentinel program.

 

[SuperT]

But Mystique's actions should've showed the humans that not all mutants are anything like Magneto. Otherwise, what's the point of the ending to DOFP? If mutant hate still exists, then the government wouldn't have cancelled the sentinel program.

Just because the Sentinel program was cancelled doesn't mean that the general public are now all in love with mutants. That's like saying segregation was eliminated so now racism doesn't exist any more.

 

[ciscostudent561]

The point of Mystique saving thr presidents life was more about giving the arc of Xaviers control over people closure.

 

[psylockolussus]

I know FC gave us what was kinda a darker version of Nightcrawler (in a sense) who did a bit of sword fighting, but I would love it if we could see this Nightcrawler do some sword fighting.

Spoiler

If he's a horseman, he should definitely get the swords.

 

[Super Jim]

I definitely want the sword fighting, which is the swash-buckling, fun loving, joking, circus performing Kurt I want to see.

If they make Nightcrawler a Horseman I will be very, very disappointed! We've already seen the mind controlled Nightcrawler, so please no more, and I believe we have to assume that the Horsemen will have some level of mind control type stuff going on!

 

[ciscostudent561]

If they make Nightcrawler a Horseman I will be very, very disappointed! We've already seen the mind controlled Nightcrawler, so please no more, and I believe we have to assume that the Horsemen will have some level of mind control type stuff going on!

the horsmen don't need mind control. Do the brotherhood need mind control? No. people gravitate to power, its simple.

Also about ur "wishes" with nightcrawler. I'm glad Singer is out to make a movie that is faithful to the art of film to the masses and not out to appease super Jim.

 

[Super Jim]

^ Yes, they could go the route that anyone who is a Horseman is in complete control of their mental faculties. But then all we have is a group of bad guys, following another head honcho bad guy. Great, that's amazing! How is that any different than a bunch of mutant dudes following Magneto? Sure, Magneto thought he was in the right, but Apocalpse has a belief system as well.

Sorry, it's almost always been some sort of mental manipulation used as far as the Horsemen, and especially Archangel. In fact, that's how they were ableto defeat him. If all you do is turn Warren into some evil guy, are you really making that character better? No, it needs to be that he's been altered and is now doing things that he normally wouldn't. Angel/Archangel isn't Pyro!

Man, I hope they don't do what you think is the right way to go! That would ruin the movie!!!

As far as Nightcrawler, so are you saying that the general audience wouldn't want to see the following:

- The X-Men meet him at the European circus

- Wears a uniform that looks, at least somewhat, like this:



- Is fun-loving, playful, mischievous, joking, etc. (just like in the comics)

- Uses swords, including one in his prehensile tail

- Is part of the X-Men, meaning not one of Apocalypse's Horsemen

And I believe that my concepts are extremely faithful to the art of film to the masses. Effectively if SInger appeased me, he'd be making the best movies ever!!!!!

 

[GuestStar2004]

if he is fun-loving and works at a circus... its probably a stretch to believe he would carry around swords

it would be interesting since azazel had swords too but still its not really necessary

 

[Super Jim]

^ Agreed. My hope would be that he wouldn't be carrying around the swords, but at some point, during a battle, possibly even the final battle, maybe against one of the Horsemen, he is able to use someone else's swords, or ones that are in the area. For example, if they find where Apocalypse's Ship/inner sanctum, sleeping chamber is they might go there and get into a battle. Since it would possibly be ancient Egyptian in appearance, swords aren't that off the wall.

 

[ciscostudent561]

I love you Jim

 

[Super Jim]

Love you too!

 

[JP]

Someone is doing research...

https://instagram.com/p/1budrdogek/?taken-by=kodismitmcpheeofficial

 

[GuestStar2004]

i'l just leave this here

But first, we asked whether his Slow West co-star Michael Fassbender, who plays the younger Magneto in the current incarnation of X-Men, had anything to do with him getting the role. “I think it was coincidence,” he told us. “At first, I just had a meeting with Bryan Singer and we hit it off and spoke a lot about our own interests in quantum physics and the spiritual world, so we hit it off, and then I just did an audition and they were saying, ‘Bryan wanted you the whole time so let’s get the auditions done with.’ I can’t wait to connect up with him on set. It will be such a different environment.”

Of course, since he’s taking on the role that was played so well by Alan Cumming, we wondered how much of that performance he has to bear in mind when playing the younger Nightcrawler. “I don’t try to avoid it, and I don’t try to keep it in mind. I just let things come naturally,” he admitted. “Because it is the Marvel Universe and X-Men and there are a lot of people expecting a lot of things, I did a huge amount of research on anyone who has portrayed it and even in the comics and the cartoons and live action. I just followed Nightcrawler’s story. I feel very honored and grateful to be expressing that now. I can’t wait.”

Smit-McPhee also had some thoughts on why Nightcrawler may not have been brought back for last year’s X-Men: Days of Future Past along with some of the other returning cast from Singer’s earlier films. “I think Bryan said that he thought that it just wasn’t the right time because there were already so many mutants in it and after reading the script now, I can see what they’re doing. They have the ability to bring these younger characters in now, so I think a lot of the people who know the traditional origins of where this came from will be very happy.”

 

[JP]

“I think Bryan said that he thought that it just wasn’t the right time because there were already so many mutants in it and after reading the script now, I can see what they’re doing. They have the ability to bring these younger characters in now, so I think a lot of the people who know the traditional origins of where this came from will be very happy.”

 

[Rike]

^ Mommy Mystique tease?

 

[Malik]

Music to my ears!

 

[Atharun]

If you have ever had a chance to watch "Borgia" on Netflix (the European one, not the Showtime one)...I always thought Mark Ryder would make a perfect Kurt/Nightcrawler. In the series he plays Cesare Borgia, the son of Rodrigo Borgia AKA Pope Alexander and is very conflicted with his faith and womanizing and desire to be a warrior. Wish he'd have gottena shot at Nightcrawler.