The Dark Knight Rises Nolan...add Robin!!!!!!

[Mr. Earle]

Brown hair is Nolan's more realistic version of red hair.

No, I thought she was far too lurid and campy. Nolan really sold out his gritty realistic vision there.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Holy ****! Killer Croc is in the background! That sneaky Nolan!

 

[weezerspider]

Holy ****! Killer Croc is in the background! That sneaky Nolan!

He's in Spidey's eye!!!

 

[Mr. Earle]

I was recently in 4chan's comics page and someone was "storytiming" (= upload all the comic's pages one by one) a "Batman: Gotham Adventures" (stories taking place in the BTAS universe, art is like Timm's) issue about the Riddler and it had the following page:



I dont know, i just liked the family moment of Bruce with his sons. They even had Dick say one of his famous puns without sounding overly cheesy and we also see Tim imitating his "older brother" and getting a thumbs up from him. If they dont overdo it like "The Batman" did, then Robin can be a great addition to the movies and provide his own (sparse) comic relief moments. I'd rather have this than "nice ride" or "nice coat".

 

[The Joker]

Those comic spin offs of BTAS were surprisingly good. I've got nearly every issue of them. Paul Dini even wrote a few of them.

 

[El Payaso]

I was recently in 4chan's comics page and someone was "storytiming" (= upload all the comic's pages one by one) a "Batman: Gotham Adventures" (stories taking place in the BTAS universe, art is like Timm's) issue about the Riddler and it had the following page:



I dont know, i just liked the family moment of Bruce with his sons. They even had Dick say one of his famous puns without sounding overly cheesy and we also see Tim imitating his "older brother" and getting a thumbs up from him. If they dont overdo it like "The Batman" did, then Robin can be a great addition to the movies and provide his own (sparse) comic relief moments.

Gasp. That's exactly why the character shoudn't be envisioned as daddy Batman in a movie.

No matter what it always ends up in cheese and cringeworthy moments. Batman has no room for a family. And less of all the "comedy" that a family of superheroes always seems to carry. It doesn't hurt in comics.

I'd rather have this than "nice ride" or "nice coat".

Oh me too. But it reminds me the joke of the lawyer and his client. Lawyer says: "Hey man, good news, I reduced your sentence. Instead of being electrocuted with 100,000 volts you're only getting 60,000."

 

[Mr. Earle]

Those comic spin offs of BTAS were surprisingly good. I've got nearly every issue of them. Paul Dini even wrote a few of them.

Yeah i've read a few and they were very good.

Gasp. That's exactly why the character shoudn't be envisioned as daddy Batman in a movie.

No matter what it always ends up in cheese and cringeworthy moments. Batman has no room for a family. And less of all the "comedy" that a family of superheroes always seems to carry. It doesn't hurt in comics.

Bruce was still dark and miserable in both BTAS and TNBA (especially in the latter) and from the few issues i've read of this, he seems to be the same here too. So they re not exactly happy. The robins are trying to be but he is resisting and shooting them down. Besides this was just a comic relief scene, they re not spouting puns all the time. Actually they barely do, the comic relief in TNBA was a lot more discreet.

 

[GlasgowBat]

Ah, you misunderstood me. I said "dramatically toned-down," not "toned-down dramatically." I suppose instead of dramatically I should have used seriously, strikingly, or effectively

Ah, my mistake.

nevertheless, a change of tone or, or more accurately an emphasis on certain characteristics abover other's, does not necessarily mean the character is toned-down. Rather, the storyteller is merely adapting the character for the betterment of the story they wish to tell.

 

[Tron5000]

Here's a way I think they could insert Robin into the Nolan Batverse.

Lots of people have said they want Nolan to go the route of a lesser-known villain. If he wants to get dark with it, I'd kinda like to see the current storyline from DC's Batman: Streets of Gotham. Use Zsasz for the villain. Kids are disappearing from Gotham City, being kidnapped or running away and never seen again. Batman is investigating this while dealing with some other type of threat at the same type (second villain, Wayne Ent. takeover, something). Turns out, Zsasz is taking these kids and running an underground Fight Club, where spectators pay money to watch the kids battle it out in various types of fights (cage matches, weapons matches, etc). That's something that could be done realistically on screen. A threat that everyone can realize, but not something huge or over-the-top. Maybe I just really enjoyed the storyline and it's fresh in my head, but I'd kinda like to see Nolan tackle that.

And I know Nolan said Robin would never enter his universe. And I'm not saying I want to see Robin or Dick Grayson in this interpretation of Batman. But this would be a way to introduce him into the movieverse. He could still have a background in the circus, with his parents dying and whatnot, but then he ended up being snatched by Zsasz and fighting in his little show. But he's like the star and kicks all the other kids' butts, and ends up going with Batman when he breaks up Zsasz's fight ring.

Like I said, not saying I want that to happen, but it could be done.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

As much as I liked that storyline in Streets of Gotham, I think it would make a much better episode of a tv show than a feature film, especially the final film in a trilogy. There's just not enough to it; it's not epic enough.

 

[Tron5000]

As much as I liked that storyline in Streets of Gotham, I think it would make a much better episode of a tv show than a feature film, especially the final film in a trilogy. There's just not enough to it; it's not epic enough.

Like I said, there could be something else going on. Zsasz could be the way to introduce Robin, but there's something much larger going on in the background. A Bigger Bad.

 

[DarkKnight FTW]

Here's my way...shouldn't happen unless he wants him in the story.

 

[Mr. Earle]

We've discussed Hitgirl before but let me bring her up again now that i've seen Kickass.

Hitgirl fitted the craziness of the movie and she did some pretty unrealistic stuff. However, i could see Robin do some of the more realistic moves that she did. Dick is an acrobat, and just like Hitgirl, he could slide under people's feet, over or under obstacles and generally move around the enemies taking them down with speed rather than force. Just like Hitgirl but a bit more realistic and without using lethal force.

Then, Robin is Batman's student so he wont be taking on major villains just yet, but rather avoiding them, distracting them, and supporting Batman from behind or above. Remember the Arkham fight scene in Begins? Batman used the beams supporting the roof to walk over the room and drop behind each thug. What if Robin stayed up there and threw batarangs and stun grenades for support?

 

[AnorexicBatman]

Forget it, the Batman Elitists will never agree despite the fact that Hitgirl is essentially Carrie Kelly Robin without the MURDER!

 

[Droogoonie789]

Here's a way I think they could insert Robin into the Nolan Batverse.

Lots of people have said they want Nolan to go the route of a lesser-known villain. If he wants to get dark with it, I'd kinda like to see the current storyline from DC's Batman: Streets of Gotham. Use Zsasz for the villain. Kids are disappearing from Gotham City, being kidnapped or running away and never seen again. Batman is investigating this while dealing with some other type of threat at the same type (second villain, Wayne Ent. takeover, something). Turns out, Zsasz is taking these kids and running an underground Fight Club, where spectators pay money to watch the kids battle it out in various types of fights (cage matches, weapons matches, etc). That's something that could be done realistically on screen. A threat that everyone can realize, but not something huge or over-the-top. Maybe I just really enjoyed the storyline and it's fresh in my head, but I'd kinda like to see Nolan tackle that.

And I know Nolan said Robin would never enter his universe. And I'm not saying I want to see Robin or Dick Grayson in this interpretation of Batman. But this would be a way to introduce him into the movieverse. He could still have a background in the circus, with his parents dying and whatnot, but then he ended up being snatched by Zsasz and fighting in his little show. But he's like the star and kicks all the other kids' butts, and ends up going with Batman when he breaks up Zsasz's fight ring.

Like I said, not saying I want that to happen, but it could be done.

Personally, I think Robin should be snatched up by Batman right after the murder. And then Batman drives Dick around, smashing cop cars, laughing like a maniac, calling Dick a ****** and doing bad Clint Eastwood impressions. You just can't beat that. Storytelling genius.

I do like the idea of Robin being introduced to Batman in a battle like that, but I think his origin should rely more on Bruce reaching out to Dick since he is put in such a similar situation as Bruce once was.

 

[Mr. Earle]

So Robert Downey Junior and Leo Di Caprio get sidekicks but Bale doesnt? What's up with that?

 

[Caped Crusader]

Batman works best alone.


Just make a Nightwing movie.

 

[El Payaso]

So Robert Downey Junior and Leo Di Caprio get sidekicks but Bale doesnt? What's up with that?

Bale is better.

 

[Caped Crusader]

Also stronger.

Spoiler

& angrier

 

[weezerspider]

So Robert Downey Junior and Leo Di Caprio get sidekicks but Bale doesnt? What's up with that?

Last time I checked, both of their sidekicks aren't 12 year olds....

 

[El Payaso]

Last time I checked, both of their sidekicks aren't 12 year olds....

That too.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Even in captain america they made his sidekick like the same as age as cap. Do any of you want to see another chris O'Donnell situation where a man in his mid twenties is adopted by bruce wayne...

 

[weezerspider]

Even in captain america they made his sidekick like the same as age as cap. Do any of you want to see another chris O'Donnell situation where a man in his mid twenties is adopted by bruce wayne...

No...thats why I say it is better he's kept out of the films all together.

 

[El Payaso]

Even in captain america they made his sidekick like the same as age as cap.

You mean in the next movie? I don't know too much about Captain America.

Do any of you want to see another chris O'Donnell situation where a man in his mid twenties is adopted by bruce wayne...

I don't want a situation where Bruce adopts anything but maybe a cat.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Even in captain america they made his sidekick like the same as age as cap. Do any of you want to see another chris O'Donnell situation where a man in his mid twenties is adopted by bruce wayne...

He was 17 and Robin worked for that film.

I understand that Nolan doesn't want Robin, but I have no doubt that if he wanted Robin, Nolan could definitely make it work. There isn't absolutely no way they could incorporate Robin.

And its not like Robin will never be another Batman film again. It inevitable that Dick Grayson gets put in another Batman film.