The Dark Knight Rises Nolan...add Robin!!!!!!

[El Payaso]

Bale will kill Nolan if he was thinking of Robin for this franchise.

 

[Darko]

Bale would kill you before you get a chance.

Won't happen. I'd go Metal gear solid on his ass.

 

[Max Shrek]

I like Robin in the comics, but on film, it just wouldn't work. There's no way a man serious about fighting crime would endanger the life of a 14 year old every night. It's just silly and in a lot of ways, disturbing on Batman's part.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Robin is very doable.

But I don't want Nolan doing Robin if he doesn't want to. It'll feel forced.

I'd also like a Superman cross-over.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

30 y.o. womanizer playboys with no wife and no life probably are. Anyway I said it 'sounded' pedo.

I think if he's a womanizer it's probably a given that he's straight and likes them well-grown.

If this includes to train the kid for dangerous fighting and keeping him forever, I'd doubt if it's good christianity or whatever. Anyway, there is a legal system for important reasons.

You're right, of course. But I never claimed that the fighting part was good Christianity. Just that helping a down-on-his-look person is. And of course there's a legal system for important reasons. But people slip through the cracks every day. Just ask the guy on the median strip holding a cardboard sign.

So the circus is made up of just the Graysons. Because if it's there any other human being in the circus I'm sure they'll take a basic care for little Dick.

Absolutely. I'm sure there are circumstances under which the circus folk could be persuaded to believe that Bruce was good for Dick. Or circumstances under which Dick might actually run away from the circus to pursue vengeance. But whatever the case, you are, of course, basically right. I'm just pointing out ways in which your scenario could be violated by creative writing.

 

[TheShadow]

Nolan U Fool Dont Listen To This....fool?

 

[Katsuro]

Not in this franchise. t:

Yeah, Batman would never do anything illegal, like... you know... vigilanteeism. The cops were totally just chasing Batman cuz they wanted to ask him where he got his sweet car.

 

[Anjow1060]

SpiderFreddie is back! My good great bestest friend. Me and him get along so well. Oh and look! He made ANOTHER robin thread. Wow, that one actually caught me off gaurd this time. [sarcasm/]

 

[Eros]

 

[Katsuro]

Look, Batman looks lame too! No Batman in the Nolan films either!!!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b2/Batman1966_1.gif

 

[Kritish]

Everything Batman does is illegal, genius. He's a vigilante. He's guilty of property destruction, resisting arrest, breaking and entering, theft, speeding, reckless driving, and about 40,000 counts of assault, among other things.

Batman breaks the law to do what is right, and if adopting Grayson had to be done illegally, that's what he would do.

Bruce can't even take care of himself well enough, he hardly needs another human being to watch out for.

 

[Triadkd]

First of all batman didnt train all over the world in BB like the comics. He stole a few boxes and then met Ra's. So it's not like it would make batman look weak by comparison. There's no reason a master like bruce shouldnt be able to teach a star athlete who is in better shape than the average adult male.
Unfortunatley nolan has made it nearly impossible to add robin to the film. IMO nolan has the same problem as singer. He thinks he's to good for a comic film and try's to base it in "reality". I wish he would have based gothams atmosphere more on the burton films. In burtons films gotham feels like another charachter. You could believe that somewhere out there was a guy dressed as clown, a thief wearing a catsuit, rumors about a reptile man in the sewer, and a young acrobat who looked up to batman.

 

[El Payaso]

Yeah, Batman would never do anything illegal, like... you know... vigilanteeism. The cops were totally just chasing Batman cuz they wanted to ask him where he got his sweet car.

No Robin in this franchise. t:

 

[James Bond 007]

Robin simply HAS to appear in this franchise at some point in some form. He's been in the comics since Batman's 12th appearance in 1940. He's ESSENTIAL. There HAS to be some way of going about introducing him without going down the Burt Ward/Chris O'Donnell route. Or, God help us, the Douglas Croft/Johnny Duncan route. By the way, Johnny Duncan's still alive. He turned 83 on Thursday and the last movie he made was Spartacus back in 1960. He played "Beheaded man". Wow, give that man a Lifetime Achievement Award. Or, better yet, do him a favour and log on to his official website, http://www.originalrobin1949.com/ , God knows nobody else has.

 

[ultimatefan]

I believe it was Goyer who said Robin is a very problematic character for a realistic take on the character. It´s not just the legal issue, but the ethical issue of Batman allowing a teenager to put his life at risk. Plus the presence of Robin with Batman and Grayson with Bruce raises even more the suspicion that Bruce is Batman. And Robin´s costume is one of the hardest ones to translate to film.

 

[ultimatefan]

Robin simply HAS to appear in this franchise at some point in some form. He's been in the comics since Batman's 12th appearance in 1940. He's ESSENTIAL. There HAS to be some way of going about introducing him without going down the Burt Ward/Chris O'Donnell route.

Robin is far from being an unanimous character, he´s loved by some fans and hated by others.

 

[Angry Sentinel]

Just posting so that I can watch the deterioration of this thread.

*pulls up chair, gets popcorn*

 

[batmaluco]

It is known that Bale doesn't like Robin as well as it is suspected that Nolan also not.
So, why bother if it is probably not going to happen anyway, while Nolan and Bale are in this franchise?
So, to make this thread in "The Dark Knight (Spoilers)" section...

 

[James Bond 007]

I think it's a shame that Bale and Nolan, or, as I like to call them, the two Chrissies, are so against Robin, if it's true that they are of course. I mean, ok, let's face it, both of them are gonna have to move away from the series at some point (Tobey Maguire is already saying that Spider-Man 3 may be his last, Chris Bale may decide the same after he does another 2), but the idea that Robin may appear only after a new actor and director have been hired bears a startling resemblance to an event that happened in the mid 1990's, which is just too distasteful to mention, so I for one hope that the two Chrissies will start talking amongst themselves about ways that maybe at some point Robin can realistically be introduced, cos I just think a Batman who NEVER has Robin, forgive the use of the word has, just is being a tiny bit disrespectful to the character's history.

 

[Adam West]

I think one of the main problems with Robin is not HIS character, but the fact that Batman letting him operate goes against Batman's character.

Batman would NOT let an adolescent run around in a bright outfit, and fight criminals that are tough for even Batman to handle most of the time.

I don't care how much Robin's tragedy echoes Batmans, Batman just wouldn't go for it.

The only feasible way that Nolan would put Robin in would be that his parents are killed by the Joker in TDK, and he comes up with the robin identity to get the Joker, independent of Batman. Joker would kill Robin in 3, making Bruce realize that the symbol of Batman is more influential than he thought, and that his war on crime will have casualties.

 

[COMPO]

what if they made it like batman beyond were Bruce is reluctant to allow him to fight crime. But, Robin convinces him to let him. And they should make the relationship like B:TAS, that had to be the best relationship. How they were always arguing. They should do that because Bruce is a loner. And in the films he'll let Robin help out every now and again. But, when he feels its too dangerous he stops him. Causing arguments with Robin feeling the strain of getting Batman's acceptance and respect.

 

[James Bond 007]

Sorry, should have been a little clearer, by the character's history I meant Batman's history, of which Robin is an integral part.

EDIT: Nah, Robin shouldn't be independent of Batman, he should either be at his side or not there at all. And if they do introduce him in TDK, which I don't think will happen and I don't want to happen either, they sure as hell shouldn't kill him off in number 3. The idea of Robin being a casual sidekick from time to time never appealed to me either. It just smacks of "tonight's special guest star" kinda stuff. Paul Dini (how is that pronounced, is it like linguini?) on the BATMAN special edition DVD says "I think when Bruce looks at Robin, he sees a young man of tremendous potential who can do much to help the common good, but I think also he sees somebody who, left to his own devices, could be a potential threat and somebody he might have to face as an adversary some day, so isn't it better that I take this young man and guide him and teach him how to martial and hone his great skills and use them as a force for good rather than leave an angry bitter young man of great physical power out there on the streets on his own?"

 

[El Payaso]

So, to make this thread in "The Dark Knight (Spoilers)" section...

Because it's spoiling the section?

cos I just think a Batman who NEVER has Robin, forgive the use of the word has, just is being a tiny bit disrespectful to the character's history.

A Batman WITH a Robin is a HUGE disrespect to the chatacter.

I think one of the main problems with Robin is not HIS character, but the fact that Batman letting him operate goes against Batman's character.

It is actually both, Mr. West.

 

[James Bond 007]

I think it all really comes down to which one of Batman's creators liked Robin, and which one you have the most respect for. I for one respect Bill Finger the most. Sure Bob Kane came up with the original concept, but is it fair that he take ALL the credit? I mean, let's face it, Finger even basically designed the costume. And I HATE, absolutely HATE, HATE, how the history of Batman documentary on the BATMAN special edition DVD implies that Kane created him all on his own and hired Finger later, when the success of the character made him realise Batman was more than just a one-man job. JESUS.

 

[Adam West]

Gordon is the new Robin.