The Dark Knight Rises Nolan...add Robin!!!!!!

[Nathan]

People just need to realize that it would be way too early to introduce Robin. In the 2nd Movie Batman has only been around for a year. But you already want Nolan to include Robin in the 3rd Movie?

 

[Saint]

Most people agree that Robin shouldn't be in the films...see the polls? People are wise.
Robin is a horrible idea all around.

Logical fallacy. We call that one "argumentum ad populum," or "appeal to the people." Look it up.

 

[Saint]

People just need to realize that it would be way too early to introduce Robin. In the 2nd Movie Batman has only been around for a year. But you already want Nolan to include Robin in the 3rd Movie?

Batman took on Robin in his second year. It has always been true that Robin came to be early in Batman's career. The "It's too early" argument doesn't fly.

 

[zenith16]

Must not have really watched it and has never read it.

I still seriously doubt nolan will add robin. As everytime he talks about the subject he has a severe hate for the character.

I believe robin isn't as important to the character as you say, except for one.
Jason Todd.
His death most likely still haunts him(even though he was brought back).
Tim is not as important as dick or jason although batman believes he shall become batman. Robin was made to give kids reading someone who they could relate to and want to be. In both his first appearance and in forever(tried to lighten thing up).

if memory serves me right dick grayson left cause batman stop him from being robin after he got shot by the joker. and brucedidn't want him to be killed. anyway what you last said is kinda off

Which has been show in the comic's
http://www.dcuguide.com/who.php?name=nightwing2
as that link said dick grayson the most worthy and then if he'd too busy to be batman it'll most likely be tim drake

People just need to realize that it would be way too early to introduce Robin. In the 2nd Movie Batman has only been around for a year. But you already want Nolan to include Robin in the 3rd Movie?

in the comic as I said he was introduced with in the second year in both year two of batman and the long holloween which was the replacement story. which was about both two face. so ether way movie 3 should be most likely for it to happen. if not 4. dick grayson and two face have a history one very bloody one.

 

[Nathan]

Already in the 2nd year? I though someone like Bats would've been solo for a couple years and honed his skills, before taking in an underage side-kick.

 

[Texas Zombie]

Batman took on Robin in his second year. It has always been true that Robin came to be early in Batman's career. The "It's too early" argument doesn't fly.

Been less than a year for batman.

 

[zenith16]

Already in the 2nd year? I though someone like Bats would've been solo for a couple years and honed his skills, before taking in an underage side-kick.

well he had the ninja and some what FBI forensic training as young Bruce Wayne befor that. and he was already scary to the mob and ordinary crooks. it's as I said it was in year two the guy's like joker and two face and the villains started to grow with in that same period. and that they were the only people that aren't scared of batman superstitiously like the normal mob guys and crooks. it was talked about with the writer of the long Halloween on tv. any way I've mentioned it enough be for.

 

[mmxvi]

Just read this thread here- no Robin please. Ever.

Let's let Nolan make the decision- oh he did and said no Robin.
Works for me.

 

[NoirMan82]

Logical fallacy. We call that one "argumentum ad populum," or "appeal to the people." Look it up.

I love philosophy. I couldn't agree more.

 

[NoirMan82]

in the comic as I said he was introduced with in the second year in both year two of batman and the long holloween which was the replacement story. which was about both two face. so ether way movie 3 should be most likely for it to happen. if not 4. dick grayson and two face have a history one very bloody one.

I'm glad someone pointed this out. Two-face is virtually one of Robin's rogues. The two have always shared a story connection like that.

 

[Saint]

Already in the 2nd year? I though someone like Bats would've been solo for a couple years and honed his skills, before taking in an underage side-kick.

It wasn't a matter of choice.

 

[zenith16]

yo saint check this out http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/07/0...omic-legend-jeph-loeb-defends-the-boy-wonder/ I'm sure you know about this.

 

[Texas Zombie]

Two Face is one of nightwing's main rogues robin rogues are pretty much exactly the same as batman.

 

[zenith16]

Two Face is one of nightwing's main rogues robin rogues are pretty much exactly the same as batman.

ummmmm according to what I under stand of it half of bat mans rogues gallery are night wings, from hanging with his dad. he's (nightwing) just been getting additions from the teams he lead though.

 

[Texas Zombie]

Two face is like becoming one of his main ones.

 

[zenith16]

technically he always was as I said LOL as is joker.

 

[mavsmaniac21]

the robin character is so lame and outdated

 

[Nepenthes]

^ and that's why he needs to be in a new movie

 

[captain_jimbo]

I think Robin could be done well, but I don't mind if they don't introduce him.
But if they do, I want it to be Nolan's decision, not the studio trying to force his hand.

 

[regwec]

If Two Face remains dead, then I think that may actually increase the necessity of Robin, or a character like him, because Harvey was the role that most clearly personified the unrelenting harshness of Gotham and a personal relationship with Bruce Wayne and Batman that hinged on shared responsibility in the latter respect. In a different way, Robin can share those aspects, as a young man who is extended the hand of friendship and protection by the lonely and distant Wayne, as a result of a personal tragedy for which Batman feels implicit responsiblity.

Finding a way of introducing Robin without breaking the tone of TDK is difficult, but not impossible. I would be tempted to fuse his character with that of Cassandra Caine. Make him a Chinese boy, who is lost in an alien country once his father figure is assassinated by loan-shark Oswald "The Penguin" Cobblepot. But the circus with which he travelled was Shaolin, and his protector was also his mentor in martial arts.

In that way, our Robin's cultural and economic obligation to listlessness and revenge are already suggested, and Batman seems less callous in allowing him to be involved in brutal violence. Bruce Wayne would be doing little that is more strange than Mrs and Mr Jolie in collecting ethnically different children, also.

 

[Saint]

People talk about using the Penguin a lot around here. I guess I'm an anomaly, in that he's the one Batman villain I have basically zero interest in.

 

[HereToComment27]

I'm going to say this because I do not want to get into a huge discussion here, but Christopher Nolan said that he would never add Robin because Robin is not needed and this Batman is a younger Batman, so someone younger than him does not need to be added.

Also, Christian Bale said that if Robin was ever introduced into the series, then Bale would no longer be Batman. Im attempting to find the sources, but the point is, there is going to be no Robin. Sorry.

 

[Saint]

Batman took on Robin in his second year; it doesn't matter that the films take place early in his career. I'm really tired of having to repeat that.

As for Bale and Nolan, well, people do have the capacity to change their minds, you know.

 

[HereToComment27]

Yes, but I doubt that Robin will ever come along. Nolan is more likely to change his mind than Bale is. Bale does not want Robin AT ALL, from what I read. And Nolan doesn't either. So, the chances of Robin being in a film is very low.

 

[Saint]

Yes, but I doubt that Robin will ever come along. Nolan is more likely to change his mind than Bale is. Bale does not want Robin AT ALL, from what I read. And Nolan doesn't either. So, the chances of Robin being in a film is very low.

Yes, you already said that. I'm not sure how it's supposed to affect the discussion. The arguments for Robin's inclusion (which are simultaneously arguments as to why Nolan and Bale should change their minds) are not really countered by the repetition that they are not interested. This topic is about why Nolan should add Robin; saying "Nolan doesn't want to add Robin" isn't a counterargument, it's just a repetition of the attitude we are responding to.