Mr. Earle
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Nice post and i agree with you on everything.I think what many of the supporters as well as the opponents of robin are confusing realism with suspension of belief. Sources for how Robin have been adapted properly such as TAS or other comics are all a very different medium then film.
Film right off the bat is 'realistic' not in the sense of plot or story, but however the idea they are played by real people. The characters are not drawn to fit who they are playing, they are actors cast best to fit the character. Now while some people are capable of suspending their beliefs when seeing a character playing and portrayed very accurately to the comics (Batman: Dead End) There are those same people who would find it ridiculous. Now comic accurate movies like Watchmen even still had its transitions to screen, but again it was a different style of movie all together, in which the ideas of the comic are more accepting on the screen. Let's use an example of Gotham Central. It is a comic where Batman is not the lead, but a background element. Now it works great in the comics... would it work well in a film? Probably not, especially if its advertised as a Batman movie. So the lesson we shoudl take out of this is "because it works in the comics (or other mediums) it doesn't mean it can work on screen)
However, context is one of the biggest keys in 1. accepting more far-fetched ideas 2. including different parts of canon apart of the story. One of the greatest selling points of the Nolan franchise has been that it is 'grounded'. It is not quite realistic, however it is not quite in the face about its outlandish ideas. It should be noted that the Nolan series is NOT realistic. So to use realism as a reason to not include something should be thrown right out. The same with, if it works in the comics/tas it could work in the movie. That is an entirely different medium and while it can be adapted, should not be a source/reason to why it should be included or why it could work.
Now as a story, I do not see Bruce adopting or including anybody else into his life. The character has experienced a great loss, with Harvey and Rachel. To which it would seem to be his own guilt. A natural course of action I could see is him distancing himself from any sort of relationship endangering anyone's lives with his mission. I believe it would be a better opportunity to show the relationship with Selina Kyle if anything.
I agree with the last paragraph as well, Robin doesnt have to be introduced right now, but i feel that he should be at some point. Watchmen was a page to page (almost) adaption of the GN, and perhaps thats why it wasnt that successful. I understand that they cant use the more outlandish elements of the mythos because they would fail just like Watchmen, but i really believe that Robin can be introduced successfully. The only problem is that his reputation is tainted because of the Schumacher movies and the ignorance of the general audience.
But if Robin is done well, by a director and cast who have won the crowds before Robin comes along (like Nolan and co), then the audience would give him a chance. A deep and tragic story would seal the deal.
In the end, you can always force some pills down the actor's throat and gain sympathy from the crowds. Too soon?


