Official ALL-NEW X-MEN Discussion Thread

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  1. Havok83

    Havok83 Well-Known Member

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    YAY, X is FINALLY back. I missed her
     
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  2. JewishHobbit

    JewishHobbit Well-Known Member

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    Hey! Laura's back! Nice. Weird to see her kissing though. That needs to stop.
     
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  3. def28

    def28 Well-Known Member

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    Nice, new costume too :up:
     
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  4. slim_summers

    slim_summers Mutant Revolutionary

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    It's a small point perhaps but didn't teen Jean just get those memories from Beast? So surely all she really has is the memories and associated emotions that Beast had/felt about Jean's experiences, not what Jean herself went through. To me that seems a little bit closer to what Carol Danvers had in the 80s after Rogue stole her memories. Carol eventually got them back but without the emotions she felt that went with the memories - something she was very bitter about at the time. For me, the only way teen Jean could replace modern/dead Jean would be if she had the memories, experiences and emotions that Jean herself had, not someone else's view on them.
     
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  5. Havok83

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    Yep, she has Beast's memories of those events. Its equivalent to someone telling you a story. She doesnt have the experience and emotions of having lived through them; only what she was able to gather from Beast's POV. If they wanted her to have that a more efficient means would have been to have her touch Jean's holempathic crystal as that contains an imprint of her essence. Or have her bond with the PF, but its best they stay away from that. What we are seeing now with Teen Jean is much different than when Jean merged with Maddie and Phoenix in Inferno. Their memories became hers and their life experiences became hers. She recited them as if she lived them and she was mentally affected by that as well as being confused with her relationships with others (namely Scott) bc she was haunted by those memories which she had acquired. Thats not happening with Teen Jean. She knows what happened via Beast, but its not the same thing as actually feeling as if she lived through all that.
     
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  6. slim_summers

    slim_summers Mutant Revolutionary

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    Completely agree. I forgot about that holempathic crystal, what happened to it after the Grey family got wiped out? Didn't it used to be at Jean's parents' house?
     
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  7. OutcryX

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    so is X-23 really a clone of Logan..if she has her geneticist mom's DNA in there too?
     
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  8. squeekness

    squeekness The mighty squeek!

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    Glad to see she is landing in a book that I already get. Now I just need to discover where Gambit is heading to.....
     
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  9. Havok83

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    She's not a clone. He's a male and she's obviously a female so she isn't an exact copy. It's explained in her first mini. His DNA was used to create her but she was given two X chromosomes instead of a Y so technically not a clone. She's referred to as such as its the simplest way to explain her
     
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  10. Loki882

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    Please let her be kissing Teen Cyclops, pretty please. The drama and hilarity of teenage Cyclops making out with Wolverine's teenage female clone is too much to resist. It may be what finally kills Wolverine.
     
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  11. Panthro

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    Hah, yeah, that would be hilarious. Be great to see Jean's reaction as well.
     
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  12. BoredGuy

    BoredGuy Chairman of the Bored

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    well hopefully teen Scott will be back in the past by then

    but it would be pretty funny
    as if there isn't enough scott/logan fanfic, that would only fuel the flames

    ps. dont like her hair in that drawing, its awfully lazy on the artist's part
     
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  13. JewishHobbit

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    I'd be okay with Jean and Scott staying since I feel like there's more story to tell there. Hank, Bobby, and Warren are just sorta there though. I'm hoping they all return to clear some panel room.
     
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  14. BoredGuy

    BoredGuy Chairman of the Bored

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    but idk, especially since it's now known that these are the actual, 616 O5
    how there's no time-paradox wonkiness going on is just ridiculous
    if they all go back now and get brain-washed, cool, I'm buying it

    any way ya cut it, they all eventually have to go back for this time to exist
    so, knowing there's no consequence to them being here, and knowing they'll eventually be mind-wiped and return like nothing happened, there's no real drama anyway, so they might as well do it now
     
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  15. JewishHobbit

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    Oh, I agree. I'd prefer them all going back now, but if any stay, I hope it's Scott and Jean. The novelty of the Original 5 is mostly gone. There isn't really any story to tell with the other 3, but with Scott and Jean... it could still be interesting. Provided they do eventually go back.
     
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  16. Colossal Spoons

    Colossal Spoons Paper boi

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    If anybody stays, I want it to be Hank. He has the most to contribute to the X-Men on a whole. He saves his present self's life, helps build the Dove, this dude is the only one worth a damn.
     
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  17. JewishHobbit

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    Yeah, I like Hank a lot but wonder what else he has to offer than adult Hank cannot do. He's definitely likable though.
     
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  18. Loki882

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    If X-23 is kissing 05 Scott, then EVERY SINGLE villain that the X-Men encounter from now on is going to love bringing it up. I can see adult Scott finding Wolverine's meltdown really amusing.
     
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  19. Generation Lee

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    I have said this before but seriously the longer the O5 stay we should see older Scott, Hank and Bobby change let's face it no matter what until they go back and get mind wiped they'd still have an affect on their older selves the longer they stay around and essentially change from the characters they were back in the 60s our time.
     
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  20. Panthro

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    Indeed - and it would be an amusing twist on the old Scott/Jean/Logan triangle.
     
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  21. Specter313

    Specter313 Ghost of all things X

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    ALL-NEW X-MEN SPECIAL #1
    MICHAEL COSTA (W) • KRIS ANKA (A)
    Cover by ALEXANDER LOZANO
    Interlocking Variant Cover by J. SCOTT CAMPBELL
    PART ONE OF “THE ARMS OF THE OCTOPUS!”
    • The All-New X-Men cross over with the Indestructible Hulk and Superior Spider-Man!
    • What does Doctor Octopus want with the All-New X-Men and HOW IS HE ALIVE?!
    • This gets the immediate attention of Superior Spider-Man, but what does it have to do with the Hulk?
    40 PGS./One-Shot/Rated T …$4.99
     
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    Specter313 Ghost of all things X

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    ALL-NEW X-MEN #17
    BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS (W) • STUART IMMONEN (A)
    Cover by ED MCGUINNESS
    Variant Cover by STUART IMMONEN
    LEGO VARIANT BY Leonel Castellani
    X-MEN: BATTLE OF THE ATOM, PART 6!
    • Magik and Young Beast have a special mission!
    • The X-Men and Future X-Men have Jean Grey and Cyclops and are going to send them back in time with the rest of the Original X-Men.
    • But who is opposing them and why?
    32 PGS./Rated T …$3.99
     
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  23. Generation Lee

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    Pitor's moustache looks like it belongs in the Blue Oyster Bar lol.
     
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  24. Panthro

    Panthro Team Language

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    He looks like he wants to be the leather-man for the Village People.
     
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  25. slim_summers

    slim_summers Mutant Revolutionary

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    His moustache is probably the best thing about this event so far.
     
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