Endgame Official Avengers: Endgame News & Speculation Thread!

[Iceman]

I really do hope we see Hela again at some point, but I doubt she shows up in this movie. They are definitely not doing the whole Death angle which I have grown to accept, but they can do so much more with her character.

Yeah, she was great in Ragnarok but it felt like there was more to come. She didn't really get a whole lot of time, just made a big impact with what she did get.

 

[Xeno]

Well, the thing is...everything can't end on a happy note.

Marvel already gave us the ultimate unhappy ending in Infinity War. The Avengers fought for the life of half of the universe and lost. That was a complete and utter defeat that they and the survivors will have to live with for several years. Infinity War delivered the most tragic ending of any superhero film.

It makes no sense whatsoever to end Endgame with an even greater tragedy. And make no doubt about it, leaving half of all life dead would only compound the failure and loss experienced at the end of IW. Not only that, but it would leave the MCU a permanent, dystopian disaster area, drastically limiting the scope of the stories going forward. The ending of is analogous to the ending of The Empire Strikes Back. The heroes were left defeated and scattered with seemingly little chance of coming back from the ruin they were unable to avert. Yet we, as the audience, know that somehow they will come back and defeat their adversary. The end game will be happy and hopeful, even if every hero doesn't survive.

 

[Iceman]

Marvel already gave us the ultimate unhappy ending in Infinity War. The Avengers fought for the life of half of the universe and lost. That was a complete and utter defeat that they and the survivors will have to live with for several years. Infinity War delivered the most tragic ending of any superhero film.

It makes no sense whatsoever to end Endgame with an even greater tragedy. And make no doubt about it, leaving half of all life dead would only compound the failure and loss experienced at the end of IW. Not only that, but it would leave the MCU a permanent, dystopian disaster area, drastically limiting the scope of the stories going forward. The ending of is analogous to the ending of The Empire Strikes Back. The heroes were left defeated and scattered with seemingly little chance of coming back from the ruin they were unable to avert. Yet we, as the audience, know that somehow they will come back and defeat their adversary. The end game will be happy and hopeful, even if every hero doesn't survive.

Yeah, imagine if RotJ had been even more of a defeat. No turn by Vader and Luke just killed. All hope gone.

 

[Xeno]

Yeah, imagine if RotJ had been even more of a defeat. No turn by Vader and Luke just killed. All hope gone.

That would have been Revenge of the Sith twenty years early. What a bummer.

 

[Samuron]

Well, the thing is...everything can't end on a happy note.

No, but they don't need to burn it all down either. This ain't DC.

We'll lose some heroes, but I'm betting they'll put the universe back together.

"Some people move on, but not us."

 

[MrWayne]

These stupid Engame theory videos are out of control. I didn't even watch this one but the screenshot for it is so freaking ridiculous. I did give it a thumbs down, though, because, WTF?!?

Dude there's a whole team of guy's who I normally enjoy watching but have really gotten carried away with literally uploading 3-4 vids daily on just about anything that comes to their mind regarding Endgame just to get you to click... I've unsubscribed to a few LOL

 

[Nicko-Ray]

How about Iron Man’s new armor? You guys think we’re still gonna get those cool nanotech weapons? Arm cannon, blade, shield, etc..

 

[Flash525]

Where'd this whole concept of half the population remaining dead come from? That's just more nonsense. No heroes are going to remain dusted by the conclusion of Endgame. Dead? Maybe, but not dusted.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Yeah, imagine if RotJ had been even more of a defeat. No turn by Vader and Luke just killed. All hope gone.

For me the snap not being undone just paints the whole MCU into a corner in a way. Look, it indeed would be BALLSY to have the rest of the upcoming slate of Marvel product take place in a world where the heroes failed at recovering half the world's population but... That's just too big an event. It kinda would dominate as a fact of their world and reverberate as an event basically for all time in that universe. This would change the nature of MCU Erth on multiple levels in deep and abiding ways, or at least it should if it didn't get undone. And I don't no which would be the poorer idea:

1. Keep half the populace gone and have this as simply the new status quo of MCU Earth.
Or
2. Keep half the populace gone but have the MCU chug along without honestly dealing with the ramifications of what such an event would do to literally every single aspect of human society.

It's just too big as I stated. And frankly, I don't see a hunger for that kind of story playing out among the fans, nor do I suspect fans would like if they kept the snap event but for all intents an purposes never really get into the implications of something like that happening. Both things kinda kill the buzz of the MCU as a whole in my view, especially given how much fans claim their support of the MCU is based on the "fun/breezy/humorous" tone of the vast majority of their films.


There are lots of things in the MCU that I can hand wave away that should probably have more impact than they seem to have if you apply any kind of logic to them. Like... Tony Stark created the arc reactor at least a decade ago in the MCU and it's a completely reliable technology that Stark has tested himself under the most extreme conditions. So... Why isn't the entirety of the USA in the MCU powered by Stark's clean energy breakthrough? Thing is though that's me being very nitpick about an aspect of the MCU that doesn't follow up with a reasonably logical ramification of this fantasy world. In the end though that isn't why I go to these movies and neither does anyone else. So I know that there not being an energy revolution widely seen in the MCU is kinda BS BUT I also have no problem swatting that criticism, my own, because it's easy to see that's a nitpick given what I am paying my ticket to see.


The Snap is not in that category. It's too big. It effected to many characters and people in universe. You just couldn't have it as the status quo no matter how daring it is as a narrative. I think Super Hetoes are a mythology of the "now". They need to play out for the most part, in a world that mirrors closely our own reality in broad terms. The implications of the snap are too large and weighty to either dismiss or embrace given what the MCU track record is. For this reason I am firmly of the mind that the event will be reversed somehow.

 

[Lookhowfunnyiam]

Maybe. Maybe not.

Joe Russo comments in the commentary "See there, with his Gauntlet and the arm, the power that it takes to use all six Stones is significant, and clearly damaged the Gauntlet and damaged Thanos permanently."

They also said there is a cost to using the stones when in a live viewing party someone asked if he could heal himself or fix the gauntlet with the stones like he fixed his chest.

"Perhaps, but there is a cost to using the power of the Stones," the directors said.

Who knows what he can do after the snap. I suspect after Infinity War showing Thanos totally unleashed Endgame will show Thanos weaker and on the back foot. Not using the stones so freely.

Okay. Here’s three options, take your pick.

1. Thanos, with all of his universe-conquering ambition and universe-conquering resources, paid for a second/backup suit of armor. Either when he bought the first suit or more recently.

2. At some point between getting the reality stone and the snap, Thanos went to the planet seen at the very end of the film and used the stone to set up a farm complete with house and yes, a scarecrow of armor. Like building your retirement home shortly before actually retiring so it’s ready to go when you retire. Only in this case it would take him thirty seconds.

3. The stones are damaged, so he can’t do giant displays of power on the level of the snap, but he can use them to an extent, it’s not like the gauntlet/stones all were completely destroyed. So maybe he wouldn’t be able to do it immediately to the whole planet, but he was able to use the reality stone enough to make a farm/house/second suit of armor for decoration.

Either way, seems like one of the least fun things to theorize about haha. Why doesn’t Stark have suits for Widow, Hawkeye and Falcon if the new kid with actual powers gets several? What does War Machine have to do to get a little nanotech?

 

[BoredGuy]

lol
Widow wouldn't want a suit
But I could so see Hawkeye grumbling "friggin stark couldnt give ME a friggin suit.. who the hell is this kid spiderman psssh.. kid can web to buildings and needs an armor suit but does the guy with a bow and arrow get one? nooooo, of course not"

 

[HammerDown]

I'm all for Hela coming back. All for it.

 

[Iceman]

For me the snap not being undone just paints the whole MCU into a corner in a way. Look, it indeed would be BALLSY to have the rest of the upcoming slate of Marvel product take place in a world where the heroes failed at recovering half the world's population but... That's just too big an event. It kinda would dominate as a fact of their world and reverberate as an event basically for all time in that universe. This would change the nature of MCU Erth on multiple levels in deep and abiding ways, or at least it should if it didn't get undone. And I don't no which would be the poorer idea:

1. Keep half the populace gone and have this as simply the new status quo of MCU Earth.
Or
2. Keep half the populace gone but have the MCU chug along without honestly dealing with the ramifications of what such an event would do to literally every single aspect of human society.

It's just too big as I stated. And frankly, I don't see a hunger for that kind of story playing out among the fans, nor do I suspect fans would like if they kept the snap event but for all intents an purposes never really get into the implications of something like that happening. Both things kinda kill the buzz of the MCU as a whole in my view, especially given how much fans claim their support of the MCU is based on the "fun/breezy/humorous" tone of the vast majority of their films.


There are lots of things in the MCU that I can hand wave away that should probably have more impact than they seem to have if you apply any kind of logic to them. Like... Tony Stark created the arc reactor at least a decade ago in the MCU and it's a completely reliable technology that Stark has tested himself under the most extreme conditions. So... Why isn't the entirety of the USA in the MCU powered by Stark's clean energy breakthrough? Thing is though that's me being very nitpick about an aspect of the MCU that doesn't follow up with a reasonably logical ramification of this fantasy world. In the end though that isn't why I go to these movies and neither does anyone else. So I know that there not being an energy revolution widely seen in the MCU is kinda BS BUT I also have no problem swatting that criticism, my own, because it's easy to see that's a nitpick given what I am paying my ticket to see.


The Snap is not in that category. It's too big. It effected to many characters and people in universe. You just couldn't have it as the status quo no matter how daring it is as a narrative. I think Super Hetoes are a mythology of the "now". They need to play out for the most part, in a world that mirrors closely our own reality in broad terms. The implications of the snap are too large and weighty to either dismiss or embrace given what the MCU track record is. For this reason I am firmly of the mind that the event will be reversed somehow.

Agreed. The snap is way too big. What I would have liked though is for a bunch of sequels (first films need to focus on their own story more) to take place between IW and Endgame so we get to see some time spent in that desolation - even though we know it will be fixed by the end of Endgame.

 

[Flash525]

If half of the rumours and speculation I've read about for Endgame is true, it's going to be chaos in terms of fitting everything all in. Speculation that Thor will enter Valhalla and speak to his mother (and sister), the speculation that The Ancient One will make an appearance (not impossible I suppose), the rumours of Red Skull returning.

Far too many subplots if they first have to mourn their losses, experience change, then seek out a way to undo said events, then a means to make the change, then to actually .. make the change, and then the fallout events afterwards. Then there's all those characters that are likely to return (Gamora & Loki specifically) before the snap even happened and how that'll come to pass. All in three (or less) hours?

This will be one hell of a ride.

 

[DCnightwing23]

Dude there's a whole team of guy's who I normally enjoy watching but have really gotten carried away with literally uploading 3-4 vids daily on just about anything that comes to their mind regarding Endgame just to get you to click... I've unsubscribed to a few LOL

New Rockstars is for sure one of those channels. Not afraid to call them out, because that's exactly what they've been doing. Just clickbait Endgame videos.

 

[Marvolo]

Dude there's a whole team of guy's who I normally enjoy watching but have really gotten carried away with literally uploading 3-4 vids daily on just about anything that comes to their mind regarding Endgame just to get you to click... I've unsubscribed to a few LOL

Same thing is happening with Star Wars Episode 9. Almost every day Google recommends an article that is a new "theory" about Star Wars Episode 9. Gizmodo posted one today. The articles are nothin but unsubstantiated speculation by the writer and the theories are usually contradictory. It's annoying as **** because any potential credible leaks are being buried under a flood of BS.

 

[Limonade]

New Rockstars is for sure one of those channels. Not afraid to call them out, because that's exactly what they've been doing. Just clickbait Endgame videos.

I'm waiting for that one post: "MCU Thanos and Disney's Mary Poppins connected?!?!?! Legit Theory"

 

[Venom'sDad]

Marvel already gave us the ultimate unhappy ending in Infinity War. The Avengers fought for the life of half of the universe and lost. That was a complete and utter defeat that they and the survivors will have to live with for several years. Infinity War delivered the most tragic ending of any superhero film.

It makes no sense whatsoever to end Endgame with an even greater tragedy. And make no doubt about it, leaving half of all life dead would only compound the failure and loss experienced at the end of IW. Not only that, but it would leave the MCU a permanent, dystopian disaster area, drastically limiting the scope of the stories going forward. The ending of is analogous to the ending of The Empire Strikes Back. The heroes were left defeated and scattered with seemingly little chance of coming back from the ruin they were unable to avert. Yet we, as the audience, know that somehow they will come back and defeat their adversary. The end game will be happy and hopeful, even if every hero doesn't survive.

This not "Empire Strike Back" of 1980. The Russos and M&M are not writing fluff. They are producing very mature themes, with semi-realistic circumstances, with fictional characters, in the back drop of a comic book movie. With that said, the appearance to not realize, with that statement, the Avengers inability to stop essentially, a galactic god, an Eternal(Deviant), at overwhelming odds, compounds nothing, when they are eventually unable to restore half of "Life, to the Universe"; when they never was going to stop him from his initial Quest, to vacate half of "Life, in the Universe", in the first place. The Avengers was always destine to fail at such a daunting task...that's the human element, go up against a galactic being.

What make no sense whatsoever, as you put it, fans expectation, the heroes somehow, will restore half of life in a Universe, they themselves, cannot access the endless boundaries of, against a being whom travel the stars, physically, wiping half of life, on an endless number of planets; when the Russos and the writers M&M themselves, whom have set precedence in heroes failing to "completely win" in whatever circumstance they are faced with....from CA:WS, CA"CW, & A:IW, said themselves, this film is not what you think it's going to be; and, those that die in this film, will remain dead. What also makes no sense whatsoever, is the notion that the Avenger would steal Gems from Thanos, create their own Gauntlet, and undue the "Snapture"...when in essence, there have been no evidence or hint, whatsoever, of that happening; just a very good fan speculation, that have circulated the net so heavily, it has become fact, in it's own right. In a matter of a few seconds of video, you have deduced the MCU would be left in a "permanent dystopia disaster" if they don't restore the Universe back to its Pre-Snapture self. There is nothing that says that's happening. We no not what is happening on other worlds in the Universe & honestly, what we saw in just the NY harbor, may just be the immediate aftermath of the Snapture; as we saw, uninhabited helicopters & cars crashing, in a world in chaos.

My point being, Dr. Strange was asked how many did they win, out of the 14mil plus....the answer was one. Now what exactly does winning means to Dr. Strange? Strange made it perfectly clear, on several occasions, his mission was to protect the Eye of Agamotto(Time Gem), from getting in nefarious hands...to the point he told Tony directly if a choice between Tony's life & the EoA, he would choose the EoA every time. That's is a huge sacrifice, if you understand, he probably would say the same, if the choice was between saving a billion people, an octillion of beings, or half the Universe and the EoA, he would chose the EoA every time. Yet he saw 14mil plus scenarios, & every scenario, including the one won...Thanos apparently attain the Gem anyway and fulfill his Quest. I suspect winning to Dr. Strange is not undoing the Snapture….he probably saw a number of scenarios where the Snapture was reverse, with grave consequences. I suspect they will learn to refocus not on restoring the Universe; but, the safe guard(as Strange would) or the destruction(as Tony would) of the Infinity Gems. Tony will be the one to realize this against Cap's undying stubbornness(some move on, not us)….Cap would jump on the grenade as we saw in the CA:FA; Tony would cut the wire as he so eloquently stated in Avengers. I suspect some lives will be saved; but, they will have to make the choice to refocus their approach.

So, I'm not going to go on & on, I'm just saying what the Russos have been stating..."this will not be what everybody think" & what is it that everybody think, that make them say that....you got to ask yourself that. There is a number of other things I could bring up to support my suspicion; I'm just trying to address some of your thoughts that counters my own.

No, but they don't need to burn it all down either. This ain't DC.

We'll lose some heroes, but I'm betting they'll put the universe back together.

"Some people move on, but not us."

They are not burning down anything; yet alone, "all"....it's just a more mature approach, of the dire consequence of the story.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

This not "Empire Strike Back" of 1980. The Russos and M&M are not writing fluff. They are producing very mature themes, with semi-realistic circumstances, with fictional characters, in the back drop of a comic book movie. With that said, the appearance to not realize, with that statement, the Avengers inability to stop essentially, a galactic god, an Eternal(Deviant), at overwhelming odds, compounds nothing, when they are eventually unable to restore half of "Life, to the Universe"; when they never was going to stop him from his initial Quest, to vacate half of "Life, in the Universe", in the first place. The Avengers was always destine to fail at such a daunting task...that's the human element, go up against a galactic being.

What make no sense whatsoever, as you put it, fans expectation, the heroes somehow, will restore half of life in a Universe, they themselves, cannot access the endless boundaries of, against a being whom travel the stars, physically, wiping half of life, on an endless number of planets; when the Russos and the writers M&M themselves, whom have set precedence in heroes failing to "completely win" in whatever circumstance they are faced with....from CA:WS, CA"CW, & A:IW, said themselves, this film is not what you think it's going to be; and, those that die in this film, will remain dead. What also makes no sense whatsoever, is the notion that the Avenger would steal Gems from Thanos, create their own Gauntlet, and undue the "Snapture"...when in essence, there have been no evidence or hint, whatsoever, of that happening; just a very good fan speculation, that have circulated the net so heavily, it has become fact, in it's own right. In a matter of a few seconds of video, you have deduced the MCU would be left in a "permanent dystopia disaster" if they don't restore the Universe back to its Pre-Snapture self. There is nothing that says that's happening. We no not what is happening on other worlds in the Universe & honestly, what we saw in just the NY harbor, may just be the immediate aftermath of the Snapture; as we saw, uninhabited helicopters & cars crashing, in a world in chaos.

My point being, Dr. Strange was asked how many did they win, out of the 14mil plus....the answer was one. Now what exactly does winning means to Dr. Strange? Strange made it perfectly clear, on several occasions, his mission was to protect the Eye of Agamotto(Time Gem), from getting in nefarious hands...to the point he told Tony directly if a choice between Tony's life & the EoA, he would choose the EoA every time. That's is a huge sacrifice, if you understand, he probably would say the same, if the choice was between saving a billion people, an octillion of beings, or half the Universe and the EoA, he would chose the EoA every time. Yet he saw 14mil plus scenarios, & every scenario, including the one won...Thanos apparently attain the Gem anyway and fulfill his Quest. I suspect winning to Dr. Strange is not undoing the Snapture….he probably saw a number of scenarios where the Snapture was reverse, with grave consequences. I suspect they will learn to refocus not on restoring the Universe; but, the safe guard(as Strange would) or the destruction(as Tony would) of the Infinity Gems. Tony will be the one to realize this against Cap's undying stubbornness(some move on, not us)….Cap would jump on the grenade as we saw in the CA:FA; Tony would cut the wire as he so eloquently stated in Avengers. I suspect some lives will be saved; but, they will have to make the choice to refocus their approach.

So, I'm not going to go on & on, I'm just saying what the Russos have been stating..."this will not be what everybody think" & what is it that everybody think, that make them say that....you got to ask yourself that. There is a number of other things I could bring up to support my suspicion; I'm just trying to address some of your thoughts that counters my own.





They are not burning down anything; yet alone, "all"....it's just a more mature approach, of the dire consequence of the story.

Once more... The implications to your position would logically be that for the foreseeable future all MCU product taking place on planet Earth would be in a world where half of all the people's populace disappeared one day. There's no way around that.

And I'm sorry but I don't buy for a microsecond that the BP sequel, the CM sequel, any future Spidey films done by Marvel and Sony, the Disney+ streaming shows, the MCU Fantastic Four films or the MCU X-Men films will take place within a setting where Earth is still reeling from the effects fo Thanos' actions to wipe out over four billion people. Could that be interesting? Sure. Could be quite compelling and explore very heavy and dramatic territory... But they won't shackle all future productions with this event. I think you are WAAAAAAAAAY out on a limb here. Vagaries spouted by the directors or cast in no way equals proof that the Marvel Studios output will now take place in universe in a world where the logical fallout of a biblical type event occurred.

 

[Thanoss]

Next month the final trailer for Endgame
The rest is paper and dust

 

[Marvolo]

Once more... The implications to your position would logically be that for the foreseeable future all MCU product taking place on planet Earth would be in a world where half of all the people's populace disappeared one day. There's no way around that.

And I'm sorry but I don't buy for a microsecond that the BP sequel, the CM sequel, any future Spidey films done by Marvel and Sony, the Disney+ streaming shows, the MCU Fantastic Four films or the MCU X-Men films will take place within a setting where Earth is still reeling from the effects fo Thanos' actions to wipe out over four billion people. Could that be interesting? Sure. Could be quite compelling and explore very heavy and dramatic territory... But they won't shackle all future productions with this event. I think you are WAAAAAAAAAY out on a limb here. Vagaries spouted by the directors or cast in no way equals proof that the Marvel Studios output will now take place in universe in a world where the logical fallout of a biblical type event occurred.

I dont think theyd need to shackle future films to it. Endgame takes place 5 years after Infinity War. After Endgame there could be another time jump for Phase 4. That's time enough for the earth in the MCU to recover and get back on track. And I dont think every film would need to address it because the population count of the earth and the emotional fallout of the snap wouldnt be relevant to every future film's story. But even if they wanted to acknowledge it in every future film a small background detail would be enough. It's not as if all future films need to dwell on it or be substantially effected in any major way.

Also, do we know for sure that earth lost half its population? The snap was a universe wide sudden culling. I assume it was random. Some populations may have been culled worse than others. Some may not have been culled at all. Earth definitely lost some of its population but is it thousands, millions, or billions?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I dont think theyd need to shackle future films to it. Endgame takes place 5 years after Infinity War. After Endgame there could be another time jump for Phase 4. That's time enough for the earth in the MCU to recover and get back on track. And I dont think every film would need to address it because the population count of the earth and the emotional fallout of the snap wouldnt be relevant to every future film's story. But even if they wanted to acknowledge it in every future film a small background detail would be enough. It's not as if all future films need to dwell on it or be substantially effected in any major way.

Also, do we know for sure that earth lost half its population? The snap was a universe wide sudden culling. I assume it was random. Some populations may have been culled worse than others. Some may not have been culled at all. Earth definitely lost some of its population but is it thousands, millions, or billions?

Marv, I don't want to get too deep with this... Or too serious because we are talking about super hero movies here. However something like this event on a narrative level to have any meaning does kinda demand to have some weight, dramatically speaking.

I'm a New Yorker. I was in the City on 9/11. As an event for the City it reverberated for a very, very, very long time. That was only thousands of people, dying from a mundane world act of terrorism that while hard to wrap one's head around was something that fell within the confines of the understandable. The Snap was like a Biblical event. And I think we can be quite sure given the post credit scenes of both AIW and A-M&TW that this was no localized, small event. The obvious presentation is one where the world was turned upside down. And it would be. The people missing due to the snap in many, many instances actually caused even more deaths. Every surgeon at the time that was operating that fell within Thanos' culling? Their patients died. Those planes and helicopers crashing meant that Thanos took the pilots and then the passengers died upon impact. I can't believe that Thanos' "cleansing" with the Stones would be somehow less efficient than his actions before gaining all the power of the Gauntlet. And I'm pretty sure that everything we saw in the MCU reffering to the snap so far indicates a massive culling of the population and not simply "tens of thousands". The effect also wasn't localized. Wakanda, New York, San Francisco unto the depths of space were shown to the audience for a reason.

That's just in the immediate aftermath though. Things would be ****ing insane in the following weeks and months. This is not something that would be shrugged off. There are logically thought out implications if you were to go down the road of treating this as an actual event. Supply chains would be fouled up which would mean, somehow, somewhere, there's gonna be deprivation of some kind. Deprivations in a given population can easily lead to revolution. What's the mental reaction to such and event as well? You think the politics of the world are crazy in reality now? What does China, or Russia or even the U.S. do when half their people go missing? Is the existence of Thanos ever revealed? And even if it were, will every country choose to believe this story? We would see massive political upheaval and social change. War even. All those Evangelicals that believe in the End Times being nigh? They get to walk around vindicated if such an event were to happen. How would that change politics? While Thanos is of the mind of this being positive for the universe this is not something he sees as a short term thing. He take a long view so he doesn't care about what hell might be unleashed in the say, immediate following decades. And I'm sorry but if billions disappeared overnight that would leave it's mark quite literally FOREVER on the history of the human race.

These ramifications are just off the top of my head Marv. The world wouldn't be all hunky dory even five years after such and event. It would reverberate. Again... Look at what the world was like on Sept. 10, 2001 and now fast forward to Sept. 10, 2006. The fallout was wide ranging across the globe.

Once more, I don't know what would be a bigger mistake. Keeping the snap and giving it focus (as an event it's just too big to reasonably ignore) in some way in each subsequent film/show or keeping the snap and then... Not really doing anything and acting like everything is pretty much as it was with no consequences or implications being shown on screen with any depth.

The most we will see I wager, of that type of world will be in AEG for it's runtime but by the end the heroes, regardless of what their sacrifices are, will have found a way to bring back those billions. I mean... I'm sorry but in the FAR FROM HOME trailer, and we do have a public statement that FFH takes place almost immediately after AEG, we see Fury is alive. He got snapped. And we see that the world is stable enough for Aunt May to allow Peter to go with his class on a trip to Europe. Invoking my 9/11 experiences again I could barely make it to my job given it was on the border below South Manhattan that the Army/National Guard had demarcated as no go zones. Travel was messed up for a long time.

I just can't see what it profits Feige and Co. to keep such a huge event intact and have all their movies and shows now have to be in a world that frankly, if they actually followed what would reasonably happen, would be a world society on the brink of total chaos at worse, or a world with literally everyone having some kind of deep seated PTSD because EVERYONE would have lost some person, at best. It just doesn't fit within the wheelhouse of everything the MCU has been up until now.


Most important of all... The world wouldn't "snap back" to what it was five, ten, or even twenty years after. It would change everything. Which essentially means, if again they followed any reasonably thought out possibilities of such and event, that the MCU is no longer some general version of our world. Now it's some wildly different place that can't really mirror anything in reality at all. This is not something like "Oh... They got hologram read outs in the MCU. It's already SO different." That's so immaterial as a difference. We are talking about a world were at least hundreds of millions of parents saw their child turn to dust in their arms. Where children saw parents disappear in front of them out of nowhere. Where people would after experiencing that would now have to navigate a society on the brink and even if there was at least some kind of even keel that would eventually come to be we are still looking at the literal change of the entirety of the world's psyche in one moment. You can't really have happy go lucky super hero movies in such a setting, but what's worse would be to have that backdrop and choose to mostly hand wave it away.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I dont think theyd need to shackle future films to it. Endgame takes place 5 years after Infinity War. After Endgame there could be another time jump for Phase 4. That's time enough for the earth in the MCU to recover and get back on track. And I dont think every film would need to address it because the population count of the earth and the emotional fallout of the snap wouldnt be relevant to every future film's story. But even if they wanted to acknowledge it in every future film a small background detail would be enough. It's not as if all future films need to dwell on it or be substantially effected in any major way.

Also, do we know for sure that earth lost half its population? The snap was a universe wide sudden culling. I assume it was random. Some populations may have been culled worse than others. Some may not have been culled at all. Earth definitely lost some of its population but is it thousands, millions, or billions?

The trailer said half of all life was gone. So evidently, yes. That would mean billions of people vanishing in an instant (as well as plants and animals).

 

[samsnee]

I can't remember where I read it but the directors confirmed it didn't include plant or animal life.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I can't remember where I read it but the directors confirmed it didn't include plant or animal life.

That isn't what Kevin Feige said:

In a recent interview with Birth.Movies.Death, a reporter asked Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige, “Are half the animals dead? Are half of the horses gone? Half of the ants?” Feige responded “Yes! Yes. All life.”