Endgame Official Avengers: Endgame News & Speculation Thread!

[Iceman]

I had am idea to make Thor 4 and guardians 3 a two part cross over mini event. That would be a fun new trick for the mcu to pull.

Sounds like it could be interesting. I have no problem with trying different things like this.

 

[DoomRulz]

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I mean considering it had already happened behind Cap where they all line up... no issue with that, but when its just mainly female characters... completely unnatural.

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Because the A-Force scene was specifically shot to highlight a girl power moment. If you honestly believe it wasn't then either you're playing dumb, you haven't been paying attention to the current culture war that is going on in pop culture, or you don't understand how filmmaking works.

Everyone lining up behind Cap is just Cap being a leader; that's who he is. It's also meant to give fans what they've wanted for years: to hear him say "Avengers, assemble!" It also included everyone, not just the male characters.

Had T'Challa, M'Baku, Spider-Man, Rhodey, Starlord, and Drax worked as a team for a brief moment to achieve a particular goal, I promise you, the scene would've been shot completely differently. It would've been no different from Clint running with the gauntlet and passing it from one hero to the next, all in effort to keep the gauntlet away from Thanos.

In the case of the A-Force scene, the film pauses to allow the heroines to gather themselves next to one another in a line whilst the camera pans backwards to a wide shot. They momentarily strike a pose, the music builds up, literally everyone else in the battle fighting Thanos' force disappears (right up until Thanos destroys Ant-Man's van), and we're off to the races. The writers might as well have asked to include a giant neon sign above their heads that read "GIRL POWER!"

This doesn't make the scene a bad one. Like Ragnaroknroll and WhoMani said, the scene is harmless, there are those who took pleasure in it, and I say all the more power to them. This film was made for everyone. There's no harm in taking joy in one scene that was meant for a specific audience demographic.

 

[shinlyle]

This is a big win.

 

[WhoMani]

Well you've completely missed the point. But congrats on being OK with it.

Wow. I actually agreed with you saying that these movies are pop culture events and they're not only made for nerds. I even agreed that those that aren't happy with A-Force are merely overreacting. There's really no need to be patronising but I'm happy that you're okay with me being okay with it

 

[Iceman]

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Because the A-Force scene was specifically shot to highlight a girl power moment. If you honestly believe it wasn't then either you're playing dumb, you haven't been paying attention to the current culture war that is going on in pop culture, or you don't understand how filmmaking works.

Everyone lining up behind Cap is just Cap being a leader; that's who he is. It's also meant to give fans what they've wanted for years: to hear him say "Avengers, assemble!" It also included everyone, not just the male characters.

Had T'Challa, M'Baku, Spider-Man, Rhodey, Starlord, and Drax worked as a team for a brief moment to achieve a particular goal, I promise you, the scene would've been shot completely differently. It would've been no different from Clint running with the gauntlet and passing it from one hero to the next, all in effort to keep the gauntlet away from Thanos.

In the case of the A-Force scene, the film pauses to allow the heroines to gather themselves next to one another in a line whilst the camera pans backwards to a wide shot. They momentarily strike a pose, the music builds up, literally everyone else in the battle fighting Thanos' force disappears (right up until Thanos destroys Ant-Man's van), and we're off to the races. The writers might as well have asked to include a giant neon sign above their heads that read "GIRL POWER!"

This doesn't make the scene a bad one. Like Ragnaroknroll and WhoMani said, the scene is harmless, there are those who took pleasure in it, and I say all the more power to them. This film was made for everyone. There's no harm in taking joy in one scene that was meant for a specific audience demographic.

I think I would have liked that neon sign you mention.

 

[carpenter82]

Gonna have to remind me of that one. How is the last scene like Spidey 3 exactly?

PS remember to put your answer in a SPOILER TAG.

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It's just MJ & Peter sharing a dance with each other.

 

[MovieSlave]

The Russos were even saying (somewhat jokingly) that the 1 win out of millions was the only time

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the rat accidentally turned on the Quantum Realm machine.

I love it.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Edit: Forgot to mention! *SPOILERS!*

 

[Spidey17]

I AM SO SHOOK

Easy 10/10 from me. I laughed, I cried, I loved

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Thor's beard

, just an amazing movie. Felt like a love letter to cast, crew and fans with all those incredible callbacks

This. This movie is ROTK on steroids

 

[Spidey17]

What a bloody idiot.

I hope the linebackers on his team beat his ass so he knows who it feels like to get beat up by bigger people.

 

[Spidey17]

Dude, seriously. Get real.
Endgame IMO is one of the modern classics. But pretty sure it's not gonna be nominated for any major Oscar.
And the comparision with LotR is invalid becuase all 2 LotR prior to Return Of The King both did incredibly at the Oscar (Best Picture, Best Director nominations). I'm sorry but movies like Endgame, while absolutely incredible, not gonna get nominated. TDK, Logan and Black Panther are as close as we get.

If BP makes the cut then Endgame sure as hell should.

 

[Iceman]

The Russos were even saying (somewhat jokingly) that the 1 win out of millions was the only time

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the rat accidentally turned on the Quantum Realm machine.

I love it.

The rat that saved the universe!

 

[Darkprime]

Was the forum down a bit before?

 

[BigThor]

Here's a thread I made to discuss potential Thor 4 villains - Thor 4 Main Villain

 

[Lencho01]

Man's year-long quest to pay back the troll who spoiled Infinity War for him comes to beautiful fruition

 

[KevTravels]

Man's year-long quest to pay back the troll who spoiled Infinity War for him comes to beautiful fruition

Talk about the LONG CON. That's ULTIMATE SAVAGE. *applause*

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

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It's just MJ & Peter sharing a dance with each other.

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Ha. Okay. I honestly saw S-M3 once, disliked it and never looked back so that ending didn't stick with me.

 

[harlequinade]

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Finally saw Endgame in the theater today and it didn't disappoint, even though I knew everything because I read spoilers so I wouldn't get lost in the conversations here last weekend. I can see why the Russo Bros decided against just calling it IW 2 since it's an entirely different film from IW. IW was basically non-stop action from start to finish; EG is more like a slow build to the big action finale. Markus/McFeely and the Russo Bros did a great job at delivering an entertaining and emotional wrap-up to the first three phases of the MCU. So many callbacks to past films that really hit the heartstrings. While I teared up in IW maybe twice, I think there were maybe at least 5 times in EG that I legitimately teared up, especially at the end.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Finally saw Endgame in the theater today and it didn't disappoint, even though I knew everything because I read spoilers so I wouldn't get lost in the conversations here last weekend. I can see why the Russo Bros decided against just calling it IW 2 since it's an entirely different film from IW. IW was basically non-stop action from start to finish; EG is more like a slow build to the big action finale. Markus/McFeely and the Russo Bros did a great job at delivering an entertaining and emotional wrap-up to the first three phases of the MCU. So many callbacks to past films that really hit the heartstrings. While I teared up in IW maybe twice, I think there were maybe at least 5 times in EG that I legitimately teared up, especially at the end.

The emotions hit me in two places. One is with the MCU characters themselves at times. A lot of that build up and working off of stuff from previous films (in more ways than one) hit me just right.

But more so... They accomplished what I felt they had in the first Avengers film only times ten. Here were all these characters near and dear to my heart that were part of my life as a child, as a teen as a young adult now up on the big screen and this wasn't something held back by any outside reasons. This was just like a comic book in all the best sense of that phrase. Even while it didn't match the original comic story of the Infinity Gauntlet and these characters are not one for one complete analogs of the source material in the end they still managed to evoke them.

"And there came a day unlike any other, when earth's mightiest heroes were united against a common threat! On that day the Avengers were born! -- To fight the foes no single hero could withstand!"

That about sums up what this film did. It brought those words to life in such a satisfying way, and wasn't hobbled too often by the issues about half the Marvel films have as sometimes hohum, merely okay films based on super hero comics. It gave me the three things I wanted in a super hero film:

1. Serious characterization. Playing this as if it were a real event. I will say this for the billionth time... For me I don't need artificially induced "fun" in the form of winking at the audience or a tidal wave humor to make these films "fun". The taking these totally irrational flights of fancy seriously IS the fun.

2. Solid character interactions which get under the surface of the characters. You will always entertain and engage me with two or more characters getting together and seeing how they bounce off one another. That doesn't have to mean conflict always as this film shows, but when it does mean characters clash, so much the better as grist for the mill of drama. The cast pulled that off very well and the writing matched the performers' commitment.

3. Grand spectacle. The film has so much scope and feels like a huge comic book story that would range all over a rich and interesting fantasy universe. And I think I will be able to dine out on that finale for a few years.

 

[Lilbaz]

Man's year-long quest to pay back the troll who spoiled Infinity War for him comes to beautiful fruition

Guy has issues.

 

[Spidey17]

Good point.

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I was surprised at how the Ancient one easily disarmed the Hulk. Imagine Dr Strange doing that. No one would be a match for him if he could just get close enough.

I can't wait for Dr Strange 2.

I hope Dr. Strange 2 is leagues better than 1; that one was a major disappointment, IMO.

 

[Xeno]

Guy has issues.

The story is from Reddit so doubtless, it's fiction.

 

[Raiden]

I hope Dr. Strange 2 is leagues better than 1; that one was a major disappointment, IMO.

I like Dr. Strange, but the villain was definitely uncooked (which is disappointing since they wasted Mad with this role). After his amazing performance in IW, I want the sequel to go ham and really give us the Sorcerer Supreme with amazing actions and visuals. Oh, and a great villain too, please.

Btw, I saw EG last weekend, and I just want to say that although the movie was spoiled for me, it still exceeded my expectations. As a fan of the MCU since the first Iron Man, this movie is a love letter to all of us who had followed the franchise from the beginning, and it left me satisfied and looking forward to what's ahead. Bring on X-Men and Fantastic Four!

 

[djsunyc]

so...i think there's 4 people that made this all possible:

1. feige
2+3. favreau and rdj
4. whedon

feige obviously but favreau and rdj's major success with iron man got the ball rolling - gave marvel actual hope that this could work. and then whedon making avengers and making it a super success.

those 4 set up the universe and everything else followed.