The Dark Knight Rises OFFICIAL: Batman in the Burgh - Part 9

[The Joker]

An earthquake machine might actually be sillier than both the microwave emitter and sonar device combined.

Easily.

I mean a machine that makes earthquakes?

Holy gimmicky plot devices, Batman!

Not any more cartoony than the machine the LoS stole from Wayne Enterprises in BB... and I am sure that Nolan will portray it in such a way that is no where near as cheesy as something you may see Shredder use against the Turtles on a 1980's Saturday Morning.

I found the microwave emitter to be the WEAKEST element of Batman Begins. When Ra's said "Now if you'll excuse me I've got a city to destroy" I expected him to take off his gas mask and start twirling his mustache lol.

 

[RKO]

If you ask the right conspiracy theorists, they would tell you such machine does exists...

 

[Yurka]

Just drove through some locations on my way home, looks like they could be filming the bus explosion tonight, there was a large bus on Smithfield with lots of lights around it.

 

[kvz5]

Just drove through some locations on my way home, looks like they could be filming the bus explosion tonight, there was a large bus on Smithfield with lots of lights around it.

Wait... what bus? The school bus?

 

[Liam_H]

^If you ask the right conspiracy theorists, anything could exist or be true.

 

[Boom]

Mythbusters busted Tesla's "earthquake machine."

http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2006/08/episode_60_earthquake_machine.html

Besides, Bane was supposedly standing right next to this device when he set it off inside the stadium. Any machine that lets off strong enough vibrations to literally shake the earth would kill anybody near it.

 

[Yurka]

Wait... what bus? The school bus?

Negative. Touring bus, like a Greyhound.

 

[jonathancrane]

Negative. Touring bus, like a Greyhound.

Interesting.

 

[kvz5]

Negative. Touring bus, like a Greyhound.

Ah, interesting! I wonder what it's for... Thanks!

 

[bigmac2011]

Easily.

I mean a machine that makes earthquakes?

Holy gimmicky plot devices, Batman!



I found the microwave emitter to be the WEAKEST element of Batman Begins. When Ra's said "Now if you'll excuse me I've got a city to destroy" I expected him to take off his gas mask and start twirling his mustache lol.

considering these devices have real life basis, which I am sure is something that Nolan considered when deciding how they would be used within his films, I dont see how they could be considered weak or cartoon like truthfully, but thats your opinion and as someone already pointed out... Nikola Tesla would prob. disagree about just how cheesy such a machine really is. If you seriously have an issue with such a move, just an idea, dont go see the movie. I'll simply go see it enough for the both of us, problem solved.

 

[The Joker]

considering these devices have real life basis, which I am sure is something that Nolan considered when deciding how they would be used within his films, I dont see how they could be considered weak or cartoon like truthfully, but thats your opinion and as someone already pointed out... Nikola Tesla would prob. disagree about just how cheesy such a machine really is.

It's not the science fiction element of it I question, it's the fact that another "doomsday" type machine to wreck Gotham is being used AGAIN!

The only time these type of cartoony devices ever worked for me is in Spider-Man 2 with Doc Ock's fusion reactor. That was because there was a heavy emotional resonance behind it because he was rebuilding it because it was his life's work and he didn't want to lose the only thing he had left in the world that he cared about. Plus he actually believed it wasn't a danger and it would work to help man kind.

If you seriously have an issue with such a move, just an idea, dont go see the movie. I'll simply go see it enough for the both of us, problem solved.

Here's a better idea: why don't you save the ludicrous hyperbole for someone who might be impressed by it. If someone expresses distaste for a particular plot element that suddenly equates to boycotting the whole movie. Brilliant logic.

There's a reason Batman fans have a bad rep in the comic book fan community. Your post is a reminder of it.

 

[TheBatman072]

Okay, not to mention that an "earthquake machine" is kinda ridiculous to begin with, Nolan is going back to "doomsday device used by an Al Ghul/the LoS" AGAIN?

If it IS an Earthquake machine, and judging from the damage at the Stadium, it is.

 

[batbax]

Gordon looks homeless lol. Boy Bane isnt f'ing around.

 

[Carnotaur3]

It'd be more interesting if the (supposed) machine is used halfway through the movie and this is what creates chaos, rioting and mass city panic. The rest of the movie is Batman trying to bring the city back from the brink of destroying itself.

 

[aliensarchive]

Action on Smithfield Street from today...

[YT]kKIUaosYzPo[/YT]

 

[bigmac2011]

It's not the science fiction element of it I question, it's the fact that another "doomsday" type machine to wreck Gotham is being used AGAIN!

The only time these type of cartoony devices ever worked for me is in Spider-Man 2 with Doc Ock's fusion reactor. That was because there was a heavy emotional resonance behind it because he was rebuilding it because it was his life's work and he didn't want to lose the only thing he had left in the world that he cared about. Plus he actually believed it wasn't a danger and it would work to help man kind.



Here's a better idea: why don't you save the ludicrous hyperbole for someone who might be impressed by it. If someone expresses distaste for a particular plot element that suddenly equates to boycotting the whole movie. Brilliant logic.

There's a reason Batman fans have a bad rep in the comic book fan community. Your post is a reminder of it.

Your the one that is still referring to machines that exist or at least whose elements exist within the real world as "science fiction" or "cartoony", looking at a fairly big part of what is the "skeleton" of the plot of this motion picture... and last but not least, questioning why a woman who wishes to avenge her father's death may want to start off where he left off and trying to do so using the same tactics only to hopefully succeed this time.... and yet I am the one that gives batman fans a bad name by pointing this out and simply suggesting that those that cant appreciate the movie for what it is or very well may be, to simply not see it or at the very least, not complain about it and poo all over our fun in this gathering of real fans that is the forum? Ok.... cool, just checking. Now back to what really matters: I AM REALLY STARTING TO HATE MONDAYS AND TUESDAYS! IT SUCKS HAVING TO WAIT FOR MORE FILMING TO START BACK UP!

 

[PublicEnemy]

Their is a conspiracy theory out there that says HAARP controls the weather with some type of machine. Its crazy but I guess maybe Nolan got the idea from that.

 

[kvz5]

Action on Smithfield Street from today...

[YT]kKIUaosYzPo[/YT]

Awesome! Thanks! Was the shoot today only in Smithfield St?

 

[BatmanBeyond]

It'd be more interesting if the (supposed) machine is used halfway through the movie and this is what creates chaos, rioting and mass city panic. The rest of the movie is Batman trying to bring the city back from the brink of destroying itself.

I agree. That would be an interesting twist to the way this kind of plot device is used usually.

 

[The Joker]

Your the one that is still referring to machines that exist or at least whose elements exist within the real world as "science fiction" or "cartoony"

Because it is science fiction and cartoony. Just because elements of these things exist doesn't make it any less Sci Fi. Fusion exists. Tritium exists. Reactors exist.

Fusion reactors fueled by tritium that look like a giant sun which suck everything metallic towards them do not. Total sci fi. Taking real life stuff and re-imagining them into something completely unreal doesn't make them grounded in reality.

But that's not the point being made. It's the redundancy of using another one of these plot devices again to wreck Gotham.

Been there, done that.

and last but not least, questioning why a woman who wishes to avenge her father's death may want to start off where he left off and trying to do so using the same tactics only to hopefully succeed this time

Yeah, heaven forbid Talia might be more original and try different tactics to the ones that her own father failed with. But no, lets bring in doomsday machine part deux. It's as original as an Al Ghul fooling Bruce with another false alias.

I'm sorry if I'm not excited at seeing recycled plots devices.

and yet I am the one that gives batman fans a bad name by pointing this out and simply suggesting that those that cant appreciate the movie for what it is or very well may be, to simply not see it or at the very least, not complain about it and poo all over our fun in this gathering of real fans that is the forum? Ok.... cool, just checking.

Oh man, will you get off your soap box. What is this, The Dark Knight Rises fan club? It's a forum for discussion. Positive and negative opinions are welcome. Even the MODERATORS on here have complained about stuff they've seen so far in this movie.

Because someone dislikes something, be it a costume design, a plot device, or a casting choice, it doesn't automatically mean that person wants to or should boycott the whole movie.

Frankly when anyone says that it just sounds so stupid. Unless that person has expressed distaste over virtually everything we know about the movie so far, there's no reason to suggest they boycott the whole thing.

Lets wise up here.

 

[Yurka]

http://multimedia.post-gazette.com/

Not sure if it's been posted yet but theres a cool video on this page (I cant directly link to the vid) of the chase sequence on Smithfield with the 3 tumblers, batwing, and Bane's truck.

 

[Yurka]

Edit: double

 

[Solidus]

Oscillators (sp) (earth quake machines) have been proven on small scales, its about frequency of sound. It is no more near future tech, or slightly out of reach tech then the freaking microwave emitter, in reality that would have killed everyone by evaporating water in humans, which is the majority of what we are made of. Ra's would have killed himself and everyone else in all reality. The machine would not work the way he wanted it to necessarily.

Mythbusters try to debunk Tesla's stuff, but that does not mean it does not work. Many still try to do this. It is a machine that could possibly exist in the future, and is as plausible as some of the other gadgets he has used. And the doomsday device is jut like a gun. It can be used in multiple ways to tell a different story. One could complain that oh great another super villain in the film. But its how you use it and alter it.

The Earthquake machine if it truly does just destroy Gotham like it seems it will, will play a small part, its not to threaten Gotham possibly its just to rip it to shreds to pull into a No Man's Land type of story. It does not bug me at all, its plausible maybe possible near future tech, just like the other stuff. I really don't see a problem with it especially if it just leads into a No Man's Land type of Gotham.

 

[Solidus]

They are not recycled per say Joker, same elements can be switched around to make a completely different context. Again Ra's used it to threaten all of Gotham, and it as a plot device became something for Batman to stop Gotham from being destroyed, it was saved.

This looks like Gotham won't be saved, it will be a weapon that destroys it for the plot, to create a wrecked and torn apart Gotham. The difference between the later, is that Talia will most likely succeed.

 

[Carnotaur3]

Oscillators (sp) (earth quake machines) have been proven on small scales, its about frequency of sound. It is no more near future tech, or slightly out of reach tech then the freaking microwave emitter, in reality that would have killed everyone by evaporating water in humans, which is the majority of what we are made of. Ra's would have killed himself and everyone else in all reality. The machine would not work the way he wanted it to necessarily.

Granted, I think Nolan made me by it by saying focused microwaves to vaporize.