Comics Official CAPTAIN BRITAIN AND MI:13 Discussion Thread

[The Englishman]

Wow....Peter Wisdom, Captain Britain, Skrull Lenon, some Hussein chick, and old lady Spitfire....wow. This book just may prove interesting, if not short lived...

And The Black Knight too.....cool.

 

[Specter313]

Throughout the weekend, CBR News and writer Paul Cornell profiled the cast of his new Marvel Comics ongoing series “Captain Britain and MI:13.” In today’s final installment of SUPER SPY WEEKEND, Cornell joins us once more to take a close look at the British team’s one American member, magical sword-slinger and former Avenger Dane Whitman, better known as The Black Knight.


“I've always loved the Black Knight, and immediately wanted him onboard for this,” Paul Cornell told CBR News. “He's an American living in Britain, so he has got that expatriate thing going, but more important than that, he's been feeling the Ebony Blade dragging him towards doing willful, offhand, even evil things.”

The Ebony Blade is a powerful but cursed weapon, passed down from one Black Knight to another.

Continued Cornell, “He does have his moments of berserker rage and questionable morality, which he'll pull back from and cover with a stiff upper lipped quip. Because he's a hero and an anglophile. So, he's taken up a wry, wisecracking, Douglas Fairbanks stance that doesn't give it any brooding seriousness to play with. So he's become more fun, but not for the best of reasons. And the noble knight is still in there, now actually more than ever, since he's battling with himself. So when we meet him, he's witty with this brittle, slightly lost quality to him. Very attractive, probably.”

The Knight’s new wisecracking attitude helps to define his role in MI-13. “He's the voice of wry comment, the one who rolls the eyes, the very humane Avenger who always thinks about the consequences, but expresses himself through wit,” Cornell explained. “Goodness, we should just give him a British passport now. He's always utterly chivalrous, but now he's got a side order of swashbuckling with that.
“Captain Britain and MI-13” also sees The Black Knight with a new look. “Leather jacket; classic motorcycle (the flying horse I won't name here has been put out to pasture with lots of nice lady horses); old helmet; force shield; Ebony Blade,” Cornell said. “No cape now, no armor. His fighting style is the martial arts of a knight, and he's a force to be reckoned with. He's also got the people skills, confidence and public standing of an Avenger.”

The Black Knight has been the wielder of the Ebony Blade for some time now but confusion arose when an impostor Black Knight attacked the Black Panther and his nation of Wakanda with what appeared to be the real Ebony Blade. That confusion deepened during the Knight’s last appearance in “New Excalibur,” when he admitted he wasn’t sure he had the true Ebony Blade in his possession. But in “Captain Britain and MI:13” #1 it looks like the Knight is armed with the true Ebony Blade. “He thinks he's definitely got the real thing,” Cornell explained. “Because he's felt it playing with his mind. But we'll see whether he's right.”


With his long time association with the Avengers and his American citizenship some might be wondering why the Black Knight has chosen to stay in England instead of returning to America and rejoining the Avengers. “Registration really got on his ****, and nobody ever felt they should call him and ask for his vote,” Cornell said. “The British law that approximates Registration is quite a lot different, more carrot than stick, and he's had official leave to stay for a while now.”
When the Skrulls begin their assault on England, the Black Knight rushes forward to defend his adopted home without hesitation, but once the Skrull threat is over, Dane Whitman’s American citizenship and MI-13’s status as official agents of the British Security Service may make things a little trickier. “It'll be up to him whether or not he wants to take part,” Cornell stated. “But when he sees what our heroes are facing, he will.”

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[Valechan]

I was going to buy the book but after the revelation of the line-up I am so not going to touch it

 

[Harlekin]

Why not? This looks to be a ****ing awesome book.

 

[Valechan]

It doesn't have ANY character that actually interests me. I don't know John Skrull nor care about him, and the same goes for this Faisa Hussein, or even the Knight, I never really warmed up to Dane Whitman. The only mild-interesting one is Spitfire but not enough to make me want to buy the book. And Pete and Cap... I never really liked them. If they had kept Dazzler I'd be on it, but since she's not...

Besides it doesn't have the "Excalibur" feel and I love Excalibur... this isn't it.

 

[chris moore]

How would Dazzler being in it make it any more 'Excalibur'? Captain Britain in it makes it Excalibur. Dane whitman by extension makes it Excalibur (only through lore links and Arthurian legend, but still). Creation of a new character with a truly english/mythical theme like BK and Cap would be okay with me. But only if it were done as part of the first story - not a sudden recruitment of a guy we're sposed to believe has been around for ages.

 

[Valechan]

I didn't say Dazzler makes it more Excalibur, I said it lacked the Excalibur feeling, that's all. I do know it's not supposed to be Excalibur, but I half-expected it to at least feel like it was still Excalibur.

Cap just doesn't scream "Excalibur" to me, the team was mostly about Kitty and Kurt in days past, I find the character of Brian Braddock to be extremely boring if it is removed from the Otherworld/Cap Brit Corps part of his history. Without Otherworld, without characters I love, without the myth behind Excalibur I'm not interested in this book

 

[chris moore]

I totally agree with you that the Otherworld elements strip it of its glory and appeal. I mean, for cryin' out loud; Sat9 tells the freakin' monarch of Otherworld she doesnt want him involved in the corps cos he's not brutal enough. But he doesnt stay to rule Otherworld either?! Come on!

 

[Valechan]

Indeed, it was a very very very very lame way of severing Cap's ties to Otherworld

 

[The Englishman]

I didn't say Dazzler makes it more Excalibur, I said it lacked the Excalibur feeling, that's all. I do know it's not supposed to be Excalibur, but I half-expected it to at least feel like it was still Excalibur.

Cap just doesn't scream "Excalibur" to me, the team was mostly about Kitty and Kurt in days past, I find the character of Brian Braddock to be extremely boring if it is removed from the Otherworld/Cap Brit Corps part of his history. Without Otherworld, without characters I love, without the myth behind Excalibur I'm not interested in this book

But how can you say that without giving it a try? Theres a reason why it has not got the Excalibur feel, that book keeps getting cancelled! Whats the point in bringing it back if it's going to get cancelled again in a few months time? Im well up for this book, i love the cast and like the circumstances that the team is getting formed from....

 

[Valechan]

Why should I try a book that has no character that interest me? I read book based on what character is in it, and there is no character here that makes me want to read it so... I'll pass

 

[The Englishman]

Why should I try a book that has no character that interest me? I read book based on what character is in it, and there is no character here that makes me want to read it so... I'll pass

OK........Well it's your loss, not mine. t:

 

[Valechan]

I'm still gonna read it though, I just won't be buying it... if it convinces me I might got for the tp, but I doubt that's going to happen

 

[The Englishman]

How would Dazzler being in it make it any more 'Excalibur'? Captain Britain in it makes it Excalibur. Dane whitman by extension makes it Excalibur (only through lore links and Arthurian legend, but still). Creation of a new character with a truly english/mythical theme like BK and Cap would be okay with me. But only if it were done as part of the first story - not a sudden recruitment of a guy we're sposed to believe has been around for ages.

Speaking of British myths and legends, it's a shame that the Green Arrow has already been created and owned by DC and that Marvel have Hawkeye because a hero based on Robin Hood would work on this team.

 

[chris moore]

Its more of a shame that although Hawkeye has had training in unarmed combat he has still ditched his bow and quiver for bloody swords (dont recall Clint being a master of all weaponry...).

I would prefer it if they had brought him back, but had him move away from the US to try and live up to Steve's ideals in the UK where the reg act isnt in place and its easier to spread the heroics beyond Englands borders into the rest of the EU. Not as Hawkeye (cos he did say he'd let Bishop keep the name) but as another Archery themed name.

 

[The Englishman]

Its more of a shame that although Hawkeye has had training in unarmed combat he has still ditched his bow and quiver for bloody swords (dont recall Clint being a master of all weaponry...).

I would prefer it if they had brought him back, but had him move away from the US to try and live up to Steve's ideals in the UK where the reg act isnt in place and its easier to spread the heroics beyond Englands borders into the rest of the EU. Not as Hawkeye (cos he did say he'd let Bishop keep the name) but as another Archery themed name.

True, but i would prefer a Robin Hood type hero to be English, preferably from Yorkshire.......

 

[Specter313]

CAPTAIN BRITAIN AND MI: 13 #2
Written by PAUL CORNELL
Penciled by LEONARD KIRK
Cover by BRYAN HITCH
The Skrulls are winning in England. Their mysterious goal there could turn the tide of the invasion. The emergence of the fabled sword Excalibur (once again locked in stone) may lead to salvation. But who can claim the mythic weapon? Pete Wisdom? Spitfire? John the Skrull? The Black Knight ? And what is the fate of Captain Britain?
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

 

[chris moore]

It better be Brian who claims it!

 

[The Englishman]

It better be Brian who claims it!

I Second that!.........

 

[The Englishman]

True, but i would prefer a Robin Hood type hero to be English, preferably from Yorkshire.......

Well????????.............

 

[chris moore]

Except then we'd have three separate archery themed heroes running around the MU. In DC its okay cos they are all part of the Queen family. But to have three unrelated ones who havent even been trained by the same person... it detracts from the uniqueness of using a bow against superpowered people.

 

[The Englishman]

Except then we'd have three separate archery themed heroes running around the MU. In DC its okay cos they are all part of the Queen family. But to have three unrelated ones who havent even been trained by the same person... it detracts from the uniqueness of using a bow against superpowered people.

Yes but i said its a shame that hawkeye is alreadyaround because than it would work.. whos the other archery themed character in the marvel u?

 

[chris moore]

The second Hawkeye - Kate Bishop

 

[OutcryX]

It better be Brian who claims it!

looks like Wisdom is the own with such a tight grip on the handle pulling oh so hard with all his might

 

[The Englishman]

looks like Wisdom is the own with such a tight grip on the handle pulling oh so hard with all his might

You dont sound like much of a Wisdom fan Outcry??.........